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so if we could, which x-men would u place in which title?
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thank you, Gandalf (this is you right?)
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Tony Bedard is a name that has been around the industry about thirteen years.
Not bad for the overnight sensation that some see him as now.
Bedard has been an editor at Valiant with Fabian Nicieza, an editor at DC, and most recently, a writer at CrossGen. Its his time at CrossGen that caused people to start looking up when his name was called out. With titles like Mystic, Route 666, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, and the fan favorite Negation, Bedard had begun to make a solid name for himself with fans in the industry, as well as other pros and publishers. Its Bedards work on Negation that fans will come to recognize when they read his upcoming work on Marvel's Exiles in May when he takes over as the series regular writer, joining artist Mizuki Sakakibara.
So how did a guy who's not an unknown in the industry finally get to be part of Marvel's latest X-Men event?
"I've met a lot of people who went on to bigger and better things." Bedard told Newsarama. "One was a penciller at Valiant who was already a major force as an artist, but I never suspected how far-reaching his influence would become. Of course, that's Joe Quesada. The other was a young staffer at Wizard Magazine who went on to work at Valiant after I left there, and later surfaced as caretaker of the most important franchise in comics. Of course, that's Mike Marts. Never underestimate the value of good connections."
Those good connections may have been set in place, but it seemed to take a while before they would take notice and give Bedard a call to come work with them. When CrossGen began laying off staff, Bedard made a call to Quesada for some help. He wasn't calling on his own behalf, but to help out some of his friends and former CrossGen employees. "In the midst of this, I guess Joe mentioned me to Mike, who was looking for a new Exiles writer." Bedard said. "I pitched some ideas for what I would do with Exiles, given the chance, and Mike liked what he saw."
The novelty of Exiles isnt lost on Bedard, nor is the high concept of the book which makes it a dream assignment for him as a creator take a team of (usually) X-based characters from any era, continuity or even dimension, have them travel to a different era, timeframe, or dimension where they meet other characters from the Marvel Universe, and then, have them perform a mission to assure that the particular timeframe they are visiting follows the course it should. For older Marvel readers, Exiles has always been a quiet nod to the publishers What If? series, as both focus on alternate realities and timelines. While the Watcher watched the timelines in What If?, the Exiles do something about them in their series.
"I can use any Marvel character I want, however I want them, Bedard explained. Whichever version of a character was my favorite, I can put them in my Exiles stories, even if that version hasn't been in continuity for years! Storm with the mohawk! Colossus with the dog-collar! Wolverine in the brown-and-tan! Galactus in shorts! Disco-suit Beyonder! You name it!"
The list of endless possibilities as far as characters, timeframes, even dimensions has given Bedard almost carte blanche on what to do with this series, and hes planning to exploit it for all its worth. "The old saying goes, Give 'em what they want, but not how they expect it, Bedard said. "Exiles makes it easy to deliver on that score. I have to admit, though, that when I first read through Judd's run, it looked as though he might've already done all the good stuff. Dr. Doom, Galactus, Magneto... Judd wasted no time getting to the good stuff. All the big guns had already been dealt with, and I did not want to just cover the same ground Judd had. Especially since he'd covered it so dang well!
"But I quickly realized that the journey had only just begun for the Exiles. What I could do was begin to give more of an overarching direction and purpose to their various adventures, having them all build toward something and giving the series a sense of progress. Without that, it might just degenerate into one what if...? story after another. So you'll see in my run that our heroes will learn more about the mysterious Timebroker who sends them on these missions, and eventually the Exiles' motivation will evolve from simply wanting to return to their previous lives to something much more proactive. Stick around and you'll see what I mean..."
If youre one of the Negation fans who are curious about what Bedard might be doing with Exiles and if its something that you might be interested in reading, as it, like Negation features a team on missions with a larger purpose well, the similarity between books isnt lost on Bedard either. "That's the beauty of this assignment!
"Exiles hit a lot of the same dramatic notes that I've spent the past two and a half years exploring in Negation." Bedard continues. "My hat's off to my editor, Mike Marts, and to Joe Quesada for recognizing that all the things I'm doing to build a cult following in Negation will knock the socks off the larger audience that already reads Exiles. Plus, the fact that Exiles takes place in alternate realities means I get to pick up on any continuity points I like, but I don't have to sweat matching up with all the continuity I don't even know about."
While Bedard fans are sure to be aware of what he's capable of doing with an ensemble cast series, current Exiles fans are probably wondering if Bedard is going to ball up and throw away what Judd Winnick both created and nurtured with such care. Bedard wants you to know something - "This is the tough part. See, I'm a little intimidated with just how awesome Judd's run on Exiles was. His plots were imaginative and exciting, his banter and characterization was truly funny and truly touching and he always managed to surprise me as a reader.
"The types of stories I'm looking to deliver for Exiles are the same kind Judd wrote for his issues. I'm not looking to redefine this book, because it's just fine the way it is. I really love Morph and Blink and Mimic. Like Negation, I'll see to it that Exiles keeps moving at a breakneck pace, and that each issue has at least one of those Holy ****! moments that you keep thinking about for the rest of the day. And nobody's safe, either! The roster will continue to occasionally change, but I promise if anyone has to die, their death will be worthy of their stature as a character. No cheap drama."
Oh, yes, the dreaded question about who is safe and will the characters remain the same after Bedard comes in and begins with work on this series has definitely been a bit of talk around the cyber water cooler. Bedard is well aware of fan reactions.
"What I've seen is very encouraging." he explained. "Those who've checked out Negation, Route 666, or Kiss Kiss Bang Bang have some idea what a good fit this book is for me. Those who haven't read my stuff are in for a pleasant surprise. Despite my decade-plus in the business, this is my big break as a writer in the major leagues, and I'm out to make a big first impression.
"I guess I should tell you that the very first story arc I do involves a roster change. I don't want to spoil the story, but the Exiles will arrive in the prime Marvel Universe -- the one in which Uncanny X-Men and Avengers and such take place -- and by the time they move on to the next messed-up reality, the team will have changed its lineup. In general, I think it's been healthy for the book to rotate cast members. To me, the real heart of the team is Mimic, Morph and Blink. But as I mentioned earlier, no one is safe. Who wants a safe read, anyway?"
While Bedard's first few issues open up in what readers know as the 'real Marvel Universe, its not a place that's new to the members of the Exiles team having been there before during Chuck Austens run on the series. That said, in just three issues the team arrives, changes its roster with a character from the 'real' Marvel Universe and then moves on to find new adventures. The question remains: who will be the new team member. Speculation that Beak may be the new team member is being talked about because of his mention in the May Marvel solicitations for this series.
And Bedard couldnt pass up the opportunity for a tease.
"Beak is one of the greatest characters to come along in years!" Bedard said. "So what if he can't leap tall buildings? I was absolutely fascinated with him -- his courtship of Angel, the way he stood up to Magneto, the pathos when he was forced to beat the Beast with a baseball bat! Actually, despite his freakish looks, Beak's a great point-of-view character. He asks the same questions and has the same reactions that the reader does. I only hope I can handle him in a way that does justice to Grant Morrison's creation."
Pure entertainment is Bedard's goal at the end of the day for anyone who's interested in coming along with him in the pages of Exiles. "After a cozy little, character-driven opening arc, we're going to go cosmic with the mayhem and perils. Sure, we'll slow down for introspection here and there, but mostly I want every new tale to top the last one in terms of excitement and sheer audacity. So put on your safety goggles before you crack open your latest Exiles, my friends! We're going to kick some serious alternate-reality ass
Not bad for the overnight sensation that some see him as now.
Bedard has been an editor at Valiant with Fabian Nicieza, an editor at DC, and most recently, a writer at CrossGen. Its his time at CrossGen that caused people to start looking up when his name was called out. With titles like Mystic, Route 666, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, and the fan favorite Negation, Bedard had begun to make a solid name for himself with fans in the industry, as well as other pros and publishers. Its Bedards work on Negation that fans will come to recognize when they read his upcoming work on Marvel's Exiles in May when he takes over as the series regular writer, joining artist Mizuki Sakakibara.
So how did a guy who's not an unknown in the industry finally get to be part of Marvel's latest X-Men event?
"I've met a lot of people who went on to bigger and better things." Bedard told Newsarama. "One was a penciller at Valiant who was already a major force as an artist, but I never suspected how far-reaching his influence would become. Of course, that's Joe Quesada. The other was a young staffer at Wizard Magazine who went on to work at Valiant after I left there, and later surfaced as caretaker of the most important franchise in comics. Of course, that's Mike Marts. Never underestimate the value of good connections."
Those good connections may have been set in place, but it seemed to take a while before they would take notice and give Bedard a call to come work with them. When CrossGen began laying off staff, Bedard made a call to Quesada for some help. He wasn't calling on his own behalf, but to help out some of his friends and former CrossGen employees. "In the midst of this, I guess Joe mentioned me to Mike, who was looking for a new Exiles writer." Bedard said. "I pitched some ideas for what I would do with Exiles, given the chance, and Mike liked what he saw."
The novelty of Exiles isnt lost on Bedard, nor is the high concept of the book which makes it a dream assignment for him as a creator take a team of (usually) X-based characters from any era, continuity or even dimension, have them travel to a different era, timeframe, or dimension where they meet other characters from the Marvel Universe, and then, have them perform a mission to assure that the particular timeframe they are visiting follows the course it should. For older Marvel readers, Exiles has always been a quiet nod to the publishers What If? series, as both focus on alternate realities and timelines. While the Watcher watched the timelines in What If?, the Exiles do something about them in their series.
"I can use any Marvel character I want, however I want them, Bedard explained. Whichever version of a character was my favorite, I can put them in my Exiles stories, even if that version hasn't been in continuity for years! Storm with the mohawk! Colossus with the dog-collar! Wolverine in the brown-and-tan! Galactus in shorts! Disco-suit Beyonder! You name it!"
The list of endless possibilities as far as characters, timeframes, even dimensions has given Bedard almost carte blanche on what to do with this series, and hes planning to exploit it for all its worth. "The old saying goes, Give 'em what they want, but not how they expect it, Bedard said. "Exiles makes it easy to deliver on that score. I have to admit, though, that when I first read through Judd's run, it looked as though he might've already done all the good stuff. Dr. Doom, Galactus, Magneto... Judd wasted no time getting to the good stuff. All the big guns had already been dealt with, and I did not want to just cover the same ground Judd had. Especially since he'd covered it so dang well!
"But I quickly realized that the journey had only just begun for the Exiles. What I could do was begin to give more of an overarching direction and purpose to their various adventures, having them all build toward something and giving the series a sense of progress. Without that, it might just degenerate into one what if...? story after another. So you'll see in my run that our heroes will learn more about the mysterious Timebroker who sends them on these missions, and eventually the Exiles' motivation will evolve from simply wanting to return to their previous lives to something much more proactive. Stick around and you'll see what I mean..."
If youre one of the Negation fans who are curious about what Bedard might be doing with Exiles and if its something that you might be interested in reading, as it, like Negation features a team on missions with a larger purpose well, the similarity between books isnt lost on Bedard either. "That's the beauty of this assignment!
"Exiles hit a lot of the same dramatic notes that I've spent the past two and a half years exploring in Negation." Bedard continues. "My hat's off to my editor, Mike Marts, and to Joe Quesada for recognizing that all the things I'm doing to build a cult following in Negation will knock the socks off the larger audience that already reads Exiles. Plus, the fact that Exiles takes place in alternate realities means I get to pick up on any continuity points I like, but I don't have to sweat matching up with all the continuity I don't even know about."
While Bedard fans are sure to be aware of what he's capable of doing with an ensemble cast series, current Exiles fans are probably wondering if Bedard is going to ball up and throw away what Judd Winnick both created and nurtured with such care. Bedard wants you to know something - "This is the tough part. See, I'm a little intimidated with just how awesome Judd's run on Exiles was. His plots were imaginative and exciting, his banter and characterization was truly funny and truly touching and he always managed to surprise me as a reader.
"The types of stories I'm looking to deliver for Exiles are the same kind Judd wrote for his issues. I'm not looking to redefine this book, because it's just fine the way it is. I really love Morph and Blink and Mimic. Like Negation, I'll see to it that Exiles keeps moving at a breakneck pace, and that each issue has at least one of those Holy ****! moments that you keep thinking about for the rest of the day. And nobody's safe, either! The roster will continue to occasionally change, but I promise if anyone has to die, their death will be worthy of their stature as a character. No cheap drama."
Oh, yes, the dreaded question about who is safe and will the characters remain the same after Bedard comes in and begins with work on this series has definitely been a bit of talk around the cyber water cooler. Bedard is well aware of fan reactions.
"What I've seen is very encouraging." he explained. "Those who've checked out Negation, Route 666, or Kiss Kiss Bang Bang have some idea what a good fit this book is for me. Those who haven't read my stuff are in for a pleasant surprise. Despite my decade-plus in the business, this is my big break as a writer in the major leagues, and I'm out to make a big first impression.
"I guess I should tell you that the very first story arc I do involves a roster change. I don't want to spoil the story, but the Exiles will arrive in the prime Marvel Universe -- the one in which Uncanny X-Men and Avengers and such take place -- and by the time they move on to the next messed-up reality, the team will have changed its lineup. In general, I think it's been healthy for the book to rotate cast members. To me, the real heart of the team is Mimic, Morph and Blink. But as I mentioned earlier, no one is safe. Who wants a safe read, anyway?"
While Bedard's first few issues open up in what readers know as the 'real Marvel Universe, its not a place that's new to the members of the Exiles team having been there before during Chuck Austens run on the series. That said, in just three issues the team arrives, changes its roster with a character from the 'real' Marvel Universe and then moves on to find new adventures. The question remains: who will be the new team member. Speculation that Beak may be the new team member is being talked about because of his mention in the May Marvel solicitations for this series.
And Bedard couldnt pass up the opportunity for a tease.
"Beak is one of the greatest characters to come along in years!" Bedard said. "So what if he can't leap tall buildings? I was absolutely fascinated with him -- his courtship of Angel, the way he stood up to Magneto, the pathos when he was forced to beat the Beast with a baseball bat! Actually, despite his freakish looks, Beak's a great point-of-view character. He asks the same questions and has the same reactions that the reader does. I only hope I can handle him in a way that does justice to Grant Morrison's creation."
Pure entertainment is Bedard's goal at the end of the day for anyone who's interested in coming along with him in the pages of Exiles. "After a cozy little, character-driven opening arc, we're going to go cosmic with the mayhem and perils. Sure, we'll slow down for introspection here and there, but mostly I want every new tale to top the last one in terms of excitement and sheer audacity. So put on your safety goggles before you crack open your latest Exiles, my friends! We're going to kick some serious alternate-reality ass
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Another alt cover for Astonishing?
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no that is for #2 and welcome to the hype! 
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Ahh ok. Ty btw.
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Redoing teams. Assigning and reassigning writers and artists. And Dirasstic changes are supposed to take place
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With soooo many titles continually getting renumbered...is it inevitable that Marvel would do the "unthinkable" and reset Uncanny X-Ment to a new volume and a new #1?
I shudder to think it...but really...it DOES seem possible in today's Marvel corporate world.
I really hope not, I like the original numberings, not those reset ones
I shudder to think it...but really...it DOES seem possible in today's Marvel corporate world.
I really hope not, I like the original numberings, not those reset ones
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They wont. It's too close to #500.
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that does sound like something marvel would do to get everyone excited about owning a #1
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They are renumbering avengers after # 500 with a new number 1.......so.....anything is possible.
Marvel is less about quality and more about greed now IMO. I've been dropping more and more titles each month. DC is where it's at now.
Marvel is less about quality and more about greed now IMO. I've been dropping more and more titles each month. DC is where it's at now.
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Greed? or are they simply trying to make a living? Aren't we continually being told that comic sales are plummeting faster than the value of dot.com shares at the turn of the millenium? Under such conditions you have to expect them to take some drastic and often unpopular actions.
Btw DC have more liberties b/c they have the support of Warner Bros, and thus can 'afford' to publish low selling titles. Marvel on the other hand have no corporate bouy keeping them afloat, and thus have to cancel series which don't reach the requisite profit margin (note I say 'profit margin' - for profitable series have been cancelled, because they just weren't profitable enough) if they still want to be publishing the following month.
Like you, I hate the fact that the loyal, long-time fans keep getting screwed in favour of enticing a mere 'potential' market (i.e people not reading who may...just may....pick up a book because they've seen the movie or because its a number one). But we're told that Marvel can't rely on these long-time fans to keep them afloat anymore. Sure, their conduct of late has been frustrating and disgraceful, but I think you're wrong in saying that greed is the motive. It's just commercial necessity.
Btw DC have more liberties b/c they have the support of Warner Bros, and thus can 'afford' to publish low selling titles. Marvel on the other hand have no corporate bouy keeping them afloat, and thus have to cancel series which don't reach the requisite profit margin (note I say 'profit margin' - for profitable series have been cancelled, because they just weren't profitable enough) if they still want to be publishing the following month.
Like you, I hate the fact that the loyal, long-time fans keep getting screwed in favour of enticing a mere 'potential' market (i.e people not reading who may...just may....pick up a book because they've seen the movie or because its a number one). But we're told that Marvel can't rely on these long-time fans to keep them afloat anymore. Sure, their conduct of late has been frustrating and disgraceful, but I think you're wrong in saying that greed is the motive. It's just commercial necessity.
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Well, the Astonishing Team is set:
Cyclops
Emma Frost
Wolverine
Beast
Shadowcat
Excalibur
Professor X (confirmed)
Angel (confirmed)
Gambit
Rogue
Polaris
Cannonball
Lifeguard
Rachel (Phoenix)
Forge
Uncanny
Storm (confirmed)
Bishop (confirmed)
Sage (confirmed)
Longshot
Dazzler
Banshee
Psylocke
X-Men
Nightcrawler
Iceman
Havok
Jubilee
Juggernaut
Marrow
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U dont want Slipstream on any teams??
I dont blame you.
Weapon X -
Sage
Longshot
Dazzler
Lifeguard
Slipstream
Shadowcat
..then they all get killed by Sabretooth in the first arc
I dont blame you.
Weapon X -
Sage
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Slipstream
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..then they all get killed by Sabretooth in the first arc
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Originally posted by mightiest_mortal
U dont want Slipstream on any teams??
I dont blame you.
Weapon X -
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Slipstream
Shadowcat
..then they all get killed by Sabretooth in the first arc
You suck
Actually I want Slip on a team but i figured I had to many characters on teams. Hell, put him and Thunderbird on Uncanny, too.
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It was this commercial necessity that almost brought comics to their doom in the 90's. The silver-folded, multiple covers and tons of new and useless relaunches is what caused comics to LOSE readership. One of those readers included me. Then years later....they actually decided to put Quality into books again... It was the quality that brought me back. I feel the needless gimmicks are what Marvel is ALL about now IMO. I feel they should think quality first and then money second. This is the only way you will keep readers. This kind of additude is what failed the early Image comics as well. Every few years they relaunched their books too. Now....most of those books have all been forgotten.
And come on. Marvel is a multi-million dollar company now. They own Toy Biz, which is one of the top selling toy companys out there. Also a production company "Marvel Films," That brings in millions. As well as their Theme Park at Universal. Not to mention video games and all those T-shirts, mugs, and other products.
Their current business structure at the comics side is too short sided IMO and it doesn't seem to focus more on the long term.
For instance. What do relaunches accomplish? Look at the Wolverine relaunch. Sure when it was relaunched it raised sales........for the first few issues. Look at the sales now....roughly it's the same as it was before the relaunch. All relaunches do the same thing. You don't NEED a new number one issue to help a comic. Batman proved that. Issue 502 or 705 was like the number 1 comic of that month.
Marvel's thinking is just too illogical to me.
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I agree. But it is nice to have a cool "gimmick" cover every once in a while
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I do too. As long at it doesn't raise the price of the issue or is done with a thousand other titles in the same month.
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I don't mind a price raise for the issue as long as we get extra pages of story or a back-up story as well.
As for multiple titles, I agree there shouldn't be dozens of special covers with special prices at a time. I do, however, really miss the days where marvel did a hige multi-title crossover every year or two. That was fun. They should bring back annuals and do it there as with "Atlantis Attacks" several years ago. That way if you weren't interested, it wouldn't spoil your enjoyment of your regular monthly read. If something seriously affected the status quo of the Marvel U., they could just put a story summary on the front page of the monthly titles the month that change went into effect in the monthlies.
As for multiple titles, I agree there shouldn't be dozens of special covers with special prices at a time. I do, however, really miss the days where marvel did a hige multi-title crossover every year or two. That was fun. They should bring back annuals and do it there as with "Atlantis Attacks" several years ago. That way if you weren't interested, it wouldn't spoil your enjoyment of your regular monthly read. If something seriously affected the status quo of the Marvel U., they could just put a story summary on the front page of the monthly titles the month that change went into effect in the monthlies.
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