The Tobey Maguire/Peter Parker Thread

[kronos251]

I agree with you guys who said he looked kinda fat in 2 and 3.

In SM1, yeah he looked awesome, he had that Bruce Lee look--all lean and wiry, and you can totally believe his ONE-INCH punch scene, where that school bully flew halfway across the hallway... man that was cool.

SM2 & 3.... well, he kinda looked like Chuck Norris after one too many drive-ins.


*Although, he's a terrific actor, and I couldn't see anybody replacing him just yet.

 

[DACrowe]

^^ Considering he was thinner and leaner in SM2 than he was in SM1 after Seabiscuit, that is a dubious claim new comer. And if that is fat in SM3 than I'd like to see your workout regiments, because while he certainly was no longer muscular, I didn't see any flab either.

The posting will become easier in time, young padawan.

 

[Mr Jide]

Well you won't see Christian Bale looking like he hasn't worked out in The Dark Knight...but not everyone can do a Christian Bale I guess...

You know this because you've seen TDK

Bale actually looks fit. You can see it in his face and by the clothes that he wears, you can tell that he's in fit shape. TMags in both sm2 and 3 looks like he's never seen the inside of a gym. Like I said, I'm not saying he was fat but dude lacked toning and definition, which as picky as it may sound should be a requirement if you're playing the role of a superhero such as spider-man.

 

[DACrowe]

I still don't get why people ***** about him in SM2. He was leaner than he was in SM1. Yeah, he didn't have the muscle defintion because he lost it for Seabiscuit, but he had a wirey frame in the scene we saw without his shirt on.

I guess the world just needs six packs, then.

 

[Mr Jide]

I didn't get the impression that he was leaner in sm2. Sure he was thinner but we were looking at a quck glimpse of him stretching to take his shirt off...most normal size people can look a tad leaner than they actually are when they're stretching parts of their body, particularly from the waist up...which was the case in sm2. Why do you think most of the shots with him topless were shot from the neck up? Raimi filmed it like this on purpose because he knew that TMags didn't have the better body he had in sm2 and he'd just look so unconvincing to be spider-man. People may think I'm nitpicking but I personally think it's a valid complaint for such a flaw that shouldn't be in the first place. Come on, he's getting over $20million...his acting ability is hardly being stretched, the least he could do is get his ass into the right shape.
People can argue that he's not Bale or that he's doing other movies that require him to lose weight (seabiscuit) or any other excuse under the sun BUT...I'm not hearing that. TMags was contractually obligated to the spidey flicks long before any of his other projects...in other words, the spidey flicks should have been his main priority. If sm2 was going to be filmed shortly after seabiscuit and it would have been impossible for TMags to be in the right shape, he should never have taken on the role of Red Pollard...it's commen sense as well as courtesy to the 3-picture contract. Anyway, I hope we get someone who's more comitted to the spider-man role anyway. (*thinks back to the near-casting of Jake G taking over for sm2*)

N/B that's not me suggesting I want or wanted Jake G either.

 

[Mr Jide]

I guess the world just needs six packs, then.

No but I don't see why spider-man can't have a six pack. He's a muscular, toned superhero...these movies aren't called, "Normal-Man".

 

[IamProdigy]

I guess the world just needs six packs, then.

Christian Bale.

Hugh Jackman.

Thomas Jane.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

I didn't get the impression that he was leaner in sm2. Sure he was thinner but we were looking at a quck glimpse of him stretching to take his shirt off...most normal size people can look a tad leaner than they actually are when they're stretching parts of their body, particularly from the waist up...which was the case in sm2. Why do you think most of the shots with him topless were shot from the neck up? Raimi filmed it like this on purpose because he knew that TMags didn't have the better body he had in sm2 and he'd just look so unconvincing to be spider-man. People may think I'm nitpicking but I personally think it's a valid complaint for such a flaw that shouldn't be in the first place. Come on, he's getting over $20million...his acting ability is hardly being stretched, the least he could do is get his ass into the right shape.
People can argue that he's not Bale or that he's doing other movies that require him to lose weight (seabiscuit) or any other excuse under the sun BUT...I'm not hearing that. TMags was contractually obligated to the spidey flicks long before any of his other projects...in other words, the spidey flicks should have been his main priority. If sm2 was going to be filmed shortly after seabiscuit and it would have been impossible for TMags to be in the right shape, he should never have taken on the role of Red Pollard...it's commen sense as well as courtesy to the 3-picture contract. Anyway, I hope we get someone who's more comitted to the spider-man role anyway. (*thinks back to the near-casting of Jake G taking over for sm2*)

N/B that's not me suggesting I want or wanted Jake G either.

Yeah, damn that Tobey Maguire for wanting to do a film that is different and isn't Spider-Man. What in the hell was he thinking?

First of all, let's put things in perspective here. Was Tobey Maguire in the best of shape for SM2 and SM3? No. Obviously not, however, it wasn't like we got a good peak at what kind of shape he was in to begin with you know? We all can sit here and demand him to be in better shape, but if the director didn't require for him to get in better shape, then what's the big deal?

I also remember Tobey saying that he went on a crash diet for the first Spider-Man film. He was constantly working out, doing cardio, and hardly eating anything(This was his own admission). He went on to state that it messed him up physically and he basically started a diet that allowed him to lose weight and get in shape the right way. Was he toned? Couldn't tell. But he wasn't fat either.

Just for the record, you already have fans *****ing about Bale's physique for the Dark Knight. They're complaining about him being too thin and not looking like he did in Batman Begins.

Personally I think people need to get over this whole Tobey hate and realize that the three films have already been made. If you want to ***** about someone lacking committment to a role, then point a finger at Ben Affleck who was in obvious piss poor shape for Daredevil. Where's the complaining? Where's the crying?

 

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

Here is a Spider-Man tribute I made.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz4AmzNwaxk

By the way, I thought it would be nice to post some pictures of Tobey as Peter Parker/Spider-Man.

Tobey..*Drools*

 

[The Joker_1000]

Yeah, damn that Tobey Maguire for wanting to do a film that is different and isn't Spider-Man. What in the hell was he thinking?

First of all, let's put things in perspective here. Was Tobey Maguire in the best of shape for SM2 and SM3? No. Obviously not, however, it wasn't like we got a good peak at what kind of shape he was in to begin with you know? We all can sit here and demand him to be in better shape, but if the director didn't require for him to get in better shape, then what's the big deal?

I also remember Tobey saying that he went on a crash diet for the first Spider-Man film. He was constantly working out, doing cardio, and hardly eating anything(This was his own admission). He went on to state that it messed him up physically and he basically started a diet that allowed him to lose weight and get in shape the right way. Was he toned? Couldn't tell. But he wasn't fat either.

Just for the record, you already have fans *****ing about Bale's physique for the Dark Knight. They're complaining about him being too thin and not looking like he did in Batman Begins.

Personally I think people need to get over this whole Tobey hate and realize that the three films have already been made. If you want to ***** about someone lacking committment to a role, then point a finger at Ben Affleck who was in obvious piss poor shape for Daredevil. Where's the complaining? Where's the crying?

I totally agee. It's not like he was fat or anything & even if he wasn't as toned as in SM-1, how will we ever know if we couldn't notice? Seriously though, I could see if he was fat & if he was, then everyone could complain but the guy doesn't have to look like a damn bodybuilder. IT'S SPIDER-MAN FOR CHRIST'S SAKE! HE'S NEVER BEEN THAT BIG TO BEGIN WITH!

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I totally agee. It's not like he was fat or anything & even if he wasn't as toned as in SM-1, how will we ever know if we couldn't notice? Seriously though, I could see if he was fat & if he was, then everyone could complain but the guy doesn't have to look like a damn bodybuilder. IT'S SPIDER-MAN FOR CHRIST'S SAKE! HE'S NEVER BEEN THAT BIG TO BEGIN WITH!

I completley agree and well said.

 

[DACrowe]

I didn't get the impression that he was leaner in sm2. Sure he was thinner but we were looking at a quck glimpse of him stretching to take his shirt off...most normal size people can look a tad leaner than they actually are when they're stretching parts of their body, particularly from the waist up...which was the case in sm2. Why do you think most of the shots with him topless were shot from the neck up? Raimi filmed it like this on purpose because he knew that TMags didn't have the better body he had in sm2 and he'd just look so unconvincing to be spider-man. People may think I'm nitpicking but I personally think it's a valid complaint for such a flaw that shouldn't be in the first place. Come on, he's getting over $20million...his acting ability is hardly being stretched, the least he could do is get his ass into the right shape.
People can argue that he's not Bale or that he's doing other movies that require him to lose weight (seabiscuit) or any other excuse under the sun BUT...I'm not hearing that. TMags was contractually obligated to the spidey flicks long before any of his other projects...in other words, the spidey flicks should have been his main priority. If sm2 was going to be filmed shortly after seabiscuit and it would have been impossible for TMags to be in the right shape, he should never have taken on the role of Red Pollard...it's commen sense as well as courtesy to the 3-picture contract. Anyway, I hope we get someone who's more comitted to the spider-man role anyway. (*thinks back to the near-casting of Jake G taking over for sm2*)

N/B that's not me suggesting I want or wanted Jake G either.

You're saying because an actor has to get into a different weight set for a certain movie, he should not do it, because it has the potential of interfering with his big studio blockbusters, even if the role is part of a passion project? That is a good way to piss off an actor who can either a) ask for more money or b) be a jackass to work with as he isn't getting to do work he can do in his spare time and y'know...act. Watch Entourage it handles this point very well when WB and Alan Horn wouldn't let Vinnie do his drug movie so as to keep his image clean in Aquaman 2. He then was unhappy and asked for too much money and flicked off the Alan Horn character in Hollywood lingo and was replaced by...Jake G. huh.


And I do think that if you are obsessing that he doesn't show off a toned body in SM3 (and while it is a long **** we do see him not stretching with no shirt in SM2), then iti s a failure on the movie. I mean if you want half naked men 300 has them penetrating each other with long phallic objects all day long, but I don't want to see that in Spidey.

 

[Arcturus]

Well, it's not like Tobey was packing a beer gut.

Spider-Man 4: When the webslinger lets himself go!

 

[Venom 1988]

Just for the record, you already have fans *****ing about Bale's physique for the Dark Knight. They're complaining about him being too thin and not looking like he did in Batman Begins.

I think Bale looks great, he looks hes in the shape as he was in American Psycho

 

[Infinity9999x]

^^ Considering he was thinner and leaner in SM2 than he was in SM1 after Seabiscuit, that is a dubious claim new comer. And if that is fat in SM3 than I'd like to see your workout regiments, because while he certainly was no longer muscular, I didn't see any flab either.

The posting will become easier in time, young padawan.

Really? That's surprising because he definatley seemed pudgier in SM2 then SM1, you can really see it in his face.

Of course, just because he was skinner didn't mean that he was in better shape. I could lose 10lbs by not eating if I wanted, but if I didn't work out I'd look worse then I do now.

 

[Infinity9999x]

Well, it's not like Tobey was packing a beer gut.

Spider-Man 4: When the webslinger lets himself go!

That made me lol. I got images of the Jack Black pictures.

 

[Mr Jide]

Yeah, damn that Tobey Maguire for wanting to do a film that is different and isn't Spider-Man. What in the hell was he thinking?

I don't care what films he makes but if he can't be in the right physical shape for the role then there's a problem.

First of all, let's put things in perspective here. Was Tobey Maguire in the best of shape for SM2 and SM3? No. Obviously not, however, it wasn't like we got a good peak at what kind of shape he was in to begin with you know?

Did you not see sm1? Physically he looked in great shape...when he was checking himself out, it was easy to believe that he could be spider-man because he had a convincing body definition.

We all can sit here and demand him to be in better shape, but if the director didn't require for him to get in better shape, then what's the big deal?

So you're saying the director is always right? F**k that. Raimi is clearly moronic if he fails to understand the sort of body type spider-man needs to have. I'm a paying customer of these movies, I'm a fan of the character, I'd actually like to see and be convinced by the things I'm looking at.

I also remember Tobey saying that he went on a crash diet for the first Spider-Man film. He was constantly working out, doing cardio, and hardly eating anything(This was his own admission). He went on to state that it messed him up physically and he basically started a diet that allowed him to lose weight and get in shape the right way. Was he toned? Couldn't tell. But he wasn't fat either.

So, what do I care? If TMags can't handle a regime that requires to get his ass into the proper shape....and I would have thought the $20million would be more than enough motivation, then maybe these movies aren't for him. I've never said he was fat but he most certainly wasn' toned. Me personally, I'm in awesome shape...I don't have to go to extreme lengths to look great. I work out 30 minutes in the morning and evening every day, 6 out of 7 days, eating a balanced diet...nothing special and I have a much better looking body than TMags had in sm1....it took me about 5 months to get into that shape, it wasn't hard or taxing at all and I'm a full time student, with a part time job and numerous other responsibilities. What's Maguire's excuse?? He's just too damn lazy and weak.

Just for the record, you already have fans *****ing about Bale's physique for the Dark Knight. They're complaining about him being too thin and not looking like he did in Batman Begins.

So...Bale will make his body look however he wants for any movie. He may look thinner but you'd still believe that he could be batman and that he's in great physical shape. Can't say the same about TMags.

Personally I think people need to get over this whole Tobey hate and realize that the three films have already been made. If you want to ***** about someone lacking committment to a role, then point a finger at Ben Affleck who was in obvious piss poor shape for Daredevil. Where's the complaining? Where's the crying?

I don't care about DD or Affleck for that matter...they're not on my radar. However, I do care about spider-man and if TMags doesn't have what it takes to be in the right physical state, then Sony should get someone else who's willing to do more than a mere half-assed job, while gulping $20 f'n million

 

[Mr Jide]

I totally agee. It's not like he was fat or anything & even if he wasn't as toned as in SM-1, how will we ever know if we couldn't notice? Seriously though, I could see if he was fat & if he was, then everyone could complain but the guy doesn't have to look like a damn bodybuilder. IT'S SPIDER-MAN FOR CHRIST'S SAKE! HE'S NEVER BEEN THAT BIG TO BEGIN WITH!

What are you talking about?

Who said anything about being big or a body builder??

Spider-man has a slim body that is toned and has visible muscle definition...something TMags hasn't had for the last 2 movies, which is why we get, above shoulder shots when ever he's topless.

Go watch the rundown, starring the rock and sean william scott. spider-man's body should be that of how scott's body was in that film.

 

[Mr Jide]

You're saying because an actor has to get into a different weight set for a certain movie, he should not do it, because it has the potential of interfering with his big studio blockbusters, even if the role is part of a passion project? That is a good way to piss off an actor who can either a) ask for more money or b) be a jackass to work with as he isn't getting to do work he can do in his spare time and y'know...act. Watch Entourage it handles this point very well when WB and Alan Horn wouldn't let Vinnie do his drug movie so as to keep his image clean in Aquaman 2. He then was unhappy and asked for too much money and flicked off the Alan Horn character in Hollywood lingo and was replaced by...Jake G. huh.


And I do think that if you are obsessing that he doesn't show off a toned body in SM3 (and while it is a long **** we do see him not stretching with no shirt in SM2), then iti s a failure on the movie. I mean if you want half naked men 300 has them penetrating each other with long phallic objects all day long, but I don't want to see that in Spidey.

At least with 300 they had good actors, who got their asses into shape and not one of them got a bloated $20million.
As for TMags doing other films, sure he can do them but he has a priority and obligation to make sure that he doesn't come half-assed with the 3 picture deal contracted movies he signed earlier. Peter Parker isn't skinny- man nor is he fat-man. If TMags isn't able to be in the right shape then sony should hire someone capable...and I doubt TMags will be back for sm4 anyway, so things are looking quite good anyway.

 

[Uber Venom]

I really don't care about his "toning", or whatever. But I do feel like he's a terrible actor. Cringe-worthy most of the time.

 

[The Joker_1000]

He's not a terrible actor & I'm sticking by what I said: Tobey Maguire was perfect for this role & Sam Raimi & the crew were right in casting him.

 

[The Joker_1000]

At least with 300 they had good actors, who got their asses into shape and not one of them got a bloated $20million.
As for TMags doing other films, sure he can do them but he has a priority and obligation to make sure that he doesn't come half-assed with the 3 picture deal contracted movies he signed earlier. Peter Parker isn't skinny- man nor is he fat-man. If TMags isn't able to be in the right shape then sony should hire someone capable...and I doubt TMags will be back for sm4 anyway, so things are looking quite good anyway.

Yeah, but from what I heard at least 80-90% of the actors from "300" who had really defined abs were actually just CGI.

 

[The Joker_1000]

What are you talking about?

Who said anything about being big or a body builder??

Spider-man has a slim body that is toned and has visible muscle definition...something TMags hasn't had for the last 2 movies, which is why we get, above shoulder shots when ever he's topless.

Go watch the rundown, starring the rock and sean william scott. spider-man's body should be that of how scott's body was in that film.

Seriously, you're getting too obsessed over what another man's body should look like. Like I said, Maguire wasn't fat & for all we know he was as toned as in SM-1 so as long as he could fit in the costume, I don't care how toned he actually was. Get over it & move on.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Seriously, you're getting too obsessed over what another man's body should look like. Like I said, Maguire wasn't fat & for all we know he was as toned as in SM-1 so as long as he could fit in the costume, I don't care how toned he actually was. Get over it & move on.

Exactly. I'm starting to wonder about some of these Hyper posters here. It seems all they care about is focusing on another mans body. Seriously, is it really that big of a deal? Spider-Man has already made it's money and nothing can be done about it right now.

@Jide- Just for the record Jide, Tobey must not be too lazy as he did ALL three films and could've walked away when he hurt his back. But instead he did ALL three films and didn't ***** or complain. Because of him sticking around for continuity sake I'll always respect him.

You say it's easy for you to get in shape? Tell me, how does being a full-time student compare to being an actor? A full-time student doesn't require you to gain and lose weight for roles. Maguire had to do films where he had to lose his muscle mass/toned body and then try to gain it all back in time for Spider-Man 2 and 3. So please, tell me how being a full time student compares to being an actor taking on million dollar roles? Also doing things to the body that obviously takes a toll.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Really? That's surprising because he definatley seemed pudgier in SM2 then SM1, you can really see it in his face.

Of course, just because he was skinner didn't mean that he was in better shape. I could lose 10lbs by not eating if I wanted, but if I didn't work out I'd look worse then I do now.

The guy just has a pudgy face by nature, he cant help it, but never once did Tobey look fat or overwieght to me in the movie.

At least not like Matt Damon looked towards the end of BU.