The Dark Knight The ultimate question : Will it be better than Batman '89?

[AndrewGilkison]

Dark Knight might have a better script than Batman 89, and might be a better movie. But we don't really know jack ***** about it to know yet.

But pop culture wise, Batman 89 came out exactly the right time to make it's impact. Begins lost out.

 

[raybia]

Dark Knight might have a better script than Batman 89, and might be a better movie. But we don't really know jack ***** about it to know yet.

But pop culture wise, Batman 89 came out exactly the right time to make it's impact. Begins lost out.[/QUOTE]


Begins didn't lose out at all just because it didn't come out in 89. Hell WB had no idea itself that the movie would become a pop culture Phenomenon. Something like that can never be planned.

Burton just went out to make the best movie he could just like Nolan is doing now. What happens afterwards is up to the media and the audience.

 

[Infinity9999x]

Faith. But not blind faith. Faith based on knowledge. Knowledge of what we saw from BB and of what we know so far about this current production.

The thing is though, everyone has different tastes. Some people may think B89 is the best ever, while some think BB is the best ever, and heck some probably even think BF or the 60's Batman is best. No one is really "right" it just comes down to preferences.

 

[explode7]

I think BF and BR is the best EVER!!! Of course I've been wrong before.

 

[ang_hulk]

i honestly cant call it,im 99.9.9 percent sure itll be better,begins was better so theyd really have to mess somthing up for this one not to be better.

 

[El Payaso]

^ Yeah, that's like the best.... I mean, finally...

 

[Terry McGinnis]

i think it'll just rule ass to see the joker.. period! regardless of whats been done in the past its always friggin awesome to see him in differnt views! *shrugs* my opinion atleast.

 

[SpinyNorman]

I remember being 5 and seeing B89 for the first time. I got super pumped about it and then I remember being confused and bored and wondering why Batman wasn't kicking ass.

Then over the following years I guess I just decided it was a good movie? But each time I see it now I get the same response: "This is gonna be AWESOME!" followed by, "This is longer than I remembered..."

 

[Baba Ghanoush]

I think it will be better.

 

[Bandyt]

Watching B89 these days is kinda...not very appealing. I just can't get into it anymore. TDK is going to be sooo much better.

 

[Slipping_Halo]

Despite Nolan not trying to top Burton, I think he did because the Batman we saw in Begins is more Batman than the one we saw in Burton's film. I love the original but there are things in it that are fundamentally wrong and screw up the character, big time. The biggest of which is having the Joker be the killer of his parents, the second being the actual death of the Joker. Those two things are absolutely terrible. I'm not really talking about faithfulness to the source material in terms of being STRAIGHT out of the comics in every way, because Begins wasn't either. What I'm saying is that it stays more true to the characters in the comics-what makes them who they are.

I think Nolan is making better films AND better Batman films. What we see in Begins and (hopefully) in TDK is the closest thing to the comics Batman we've ever seen. Burton's movie was great, but not as great. As for the Joker, there are a million ways you could play the Joker and still have him be the Joker. Nicholson's was crazy, hilarious, and fun to watch. Ledger's could be completely different and still be the Joker. In the end, we win anyway.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I think that Batman is like a 6.5 or 7 out of 10 movie... if I'm being nice. I think it's aged terriblely and I never felt it was all that great to begin with.

I don't care for Keaton as Batman and I don't care for the fact that Bruce acted more like Clark Kent than anything else. They even had a Lois in the movie. It seemed like a slightly darker version of Superman: The Movie. Not Batman. Also Tim Burton didn't make a dark film, I'm sure it was as dark as Batman could get at the time but now it seems almost as campy as the old T.V show. And lets get one thing straight here I'm a fan of the Spider-Man movies so, I obviously love my cheese but I truely think there is a difference between camp and cheese. I love cheesy movies but hate campy ones.

I didn't get what all the hub bub was about in the early 90's as a kid and I don't now. Then again I don't get why Superman: The Movie is praised and SR is bashed, if you ask me both of the movies are mediocre. I suspect that happens because people haven't watched Superman in a while and if they have g-d bless them for having taste in movies that is completely different from mine. I know that is off topic but I said it anyway.

The only thing I loved about Bats 89 was the score which remains Elfman's best work, probably. It's very easy in my opinion for TDK to be better than both of Burtons Batman films because as I said before the first wasn't all that good to me and Batman Returns is just a bad movie.

My Scores for the Bat films:

Batman 6.5/10
Batman Returns 4.5/10
Batman Forever 5.5 or 6.0/10
Batman and Robin 0.0/10
Batman Begins 8.0/10

Don't get me wrong I think that Begins is hugely overrated but it's a solid film thats the best live action Bats yet...I'd still watch the 90's cartoon over it any day of the week though.

 

[JamesBond007]

Batman 89 depicted Batman as a killer, not good. Batman 89 paid next to no attention to the origin of Batman, not good. Batman 89 f***ed with what little of the origin of Batman it did pay attention to. Batman 89 may as well have been called The Joker, not good. Batman 89, not good

 

[BatMatt]

I thought Begins was already better, so more than likely. Batman89 is fantastic, but misses some things that I love seeing in Begins

 

[Slipping_Halo]

Batman 89 depicted Batman as a killer, not good. Batman 89 paid next to no attention to the origin of Batman, not good. Batman 89 f***ed with what little of the origin of Batman it did pay attention to. Batman 89 may as well have been called The Joker, not good. Batman 89, not good

You sound like Rorschach. Haha. I agree, though.

 

[metkalfe]

I hated Batman '89 so it will be tough for TDK to beat BB. But this is just me.