The unDEAD DC Boards Lounge version 7.5

[Tron Bonne]

DC was also hamstrung with being owned by WB...they couldn't shop their properties out to different studios and maybe get a different prespective...Blade was released by New Line, Spider-Man by Sony, the Punisher films by LionsGate

Well, I actually miswrote there; I meant WB instead of DC there.

 

[Drz]

Ah sweet the Spider-Man porno is alive! I was getting worried it was canceled or so, here's the trailer:

 

[Hound55]

You know, this might make me an *******, but I can't help but laugh at Green Lanterns misfortune. I can imagine Geoff Johns in his Green Lantern PJs crying himself to sleep at night. That makes me feel warm inside.

I find it funny that a lot of the reviews are like "Hal Jordan is a flat and uninteresting character, Reynolds tries his best but there is nothing there" or something to that effect.

So at least it's comic book accurate right?

When you think about the ****storm of blame that will go around if GL fails, Geoff Johns is set up to be the fall guy. As "Chief Creative Officer" it's your job to make sure **** is good. He won't lose his job but he will get a lot of **** for it.

You know he'll justify it as the film being a poor representation of the source material though...

I'd love to see a dozen or so reviews saying Reynolds was mis-cast as Jordan due to actually owning a personality and that Kyle Rayner would have been a better fit though... but then, that appeals to the a**hole inside of me...

 

[Hound55]

They should of done a Flash movie first if they wanted to test the waters with a superhero who isn't Superman or Batman.

The Flash is a more safe choice than Green Lantern. Reynolds would of made a decent Wally atleast

Thing is... they actually spoke to Reynolds to see if he'd be interested in a Flash movie years ago... but with this whole GL thing I suppose that idea's been shot in the face now.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

That's my main complaint with Reynolds in the role. Too much charisma!

 

[Anubis]

I don't think he woulda made a good Rayner either.

 

[Manic]

If Chris Evans can be both the Human Torch and Captain America (and Lucas Lee and Jake Jenson), then Ryan Reynolds can still play the Flash just as God intended.

 

[Drz]

I'd prefer Bradley Cooper for Flash.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Would Flash really have been more of a safe choice, in the end, for water testing other heroes? I'd say he probably has the same notability as GL does, so they both had about equal chance. Unless you mean budget-wise, in which case, that's probably true. I could see Flash film being cheaper than a GL film

 

[Anubis]

Fact is Cooper and Reynolds have waaaay too much personality to play either Hal or Barry.

 

[The Morningstar]

Reynolds should be Deadpool. He's born for that role. God intended it thusly.

I would say Flash, but if Flash gets a movie it'll be Barry. And we would be stuck in the same situation were are in now with Reynolds as Hal.

 

[Mystirious]

A mention would be nice though.

Yeah just a reference to the character maybe to set him up as a villain for future films

The thing about GL is, I thought the scale was too big, but apparently he only spends like 5 minutes in space.

What the what

Does that mean that none of the other Green Lanterns are even in it properly

 

[Manic]

If they did a Flash movie starring Reynolds, they'd just have to blend Barry and Wally's personalities. It works for the Robins in every animated series that uses them.

 

[Mystirious]

If they did a Flash movie starring Reynolds, they'd just have to blend Barry and Wally's personalities. It works for the Robins in every animated series that uses them.

Reynolds would probably be great as Wally West in a Flash movie

 

[Hound55]

Seriously, you look at Marvel and none of those movies lost money, I don't even think the two Punisher movies lost money.

The first one (or second if you consider Dolph Lundgren's...) wouldn't have lost money. It was shot at budget and was one of the last action movies (possibly THE last box office action movie) to use classic action techniques with no CGI.

Which is weird, considering it's basically what you'd want from a Punisher movie.

Meh, I preferred the first. Far preferred it. To the point that along with Spidey 2 and X-Men 2 it was my favourite before Marvel Studios really came out and cut loose.

I felt it lacked any kind of heart, even though they tried desperately to inject it into the films. (The first one at least.)


Personally, the things I like most about the Punisher is that, it's not really about revenge with him. Not anymore. It's that he has kinda become something else entirely. He kills because he can't stop. He kills because that's all he is. Death incarnate. I find that far more interesting. The guys out of his tree man.

Which is fine as you move further away from the origin. But P:WZ was a ****** sequel because there was no transition into that. Jane was right to jump off if that was the script he was shown because it had no regard for the character he portrayed. There was no transition he just went from a revenge-killer who was going to look to continue to take out the uglier criminal element to all-the-way gone Frank.

They could have made a sequel which showed him further descending to that level and I think we'd have been better for it.

Yea, I much prefer Punisher as some crazy Vietnam Vet who has PTSD or something. Like, he was upset when his family got killed, but at the same time, kinda relieved. So he could carry on killing, carry on the war.

If they ever make another Punisher movie they should do it like that. Not just have Frank be a cliche, revenge seeking vigilante.

I'd have been cool with this coming up in the sequal... Make you wonder whether his family was just holding him back from becoming the primal killer he was as he delved further into the darkness. But P:WZ had zero depth and tried to make up for it with humour.

The writers had pretty much zero regard for what happened in the first if P:WZ was the script Tom Jane got given.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Well, I thought WZ was meant as a reboot/remake anyway, so that's probably why there was no regard for the first film.

 

[Darthphere]

Yeah, that's what I thought too.

 

[Hound55]

Would Flash really have been more of a safe choice, in the end, for water testing other heroes? I'd say he probably has the same notability as GL does, so they both had about equal chance. Unless you mean budget-wise, in which case, that's probably true. I could see Flash film being cheaper than a GL film

Flash would be safer internationally as well, since many studios are giving international box office more consideration these days.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Reynolds should be Deadpool. He's born for that role. God intended it thusly.

I would say Flash, but if Flash gets a movie it'll be Barry. And we would be stuck in the same situation were are in now with Reynolds as Hal.

Eh, I'd be okay with a Flash movie featuring Barry, as opposed to a GL movie featuring Hal. I'd prefer Wally, but I'd at least be open to watching a Barry movie.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Flash would be safer internationally as well, since many studios are giving international box office more consideration these days.

Why's that? I figured they both have roughly the same notability in the international BO.

 

[Hound55]

Well, I thought WZ was meant as a reboot/remake anyway, so that's probably why there was no regard for the first film.

In which case, why get Jane on-board to begin with just to have him inevitably drop-out?

 

[BlackLantern]

I also think Marvel has the advantage of having a few more stand alone "street level" chracters...guys like Blade or The Punisher

a lot of DC characters are linked to the big guns....Id love a Nightwing movie, but he's linked to Batman so you'd have to weave that in....I think Booster Gold would make a nice action/comedy...they did a bang up job with him in Smallville

 

[Hound55]

Why's that? I figured they both have roughly the same notability in the international BO.

Flash is more wide-spead internationally. A lot of people don't even know who GL is but recognise the Flash brand as a superhero.

 

[Tron Bonne]

In which case, why get Jane on-board to begin with just to have him inevitably drop-out?

I'm going purely off memory here, but I do believe you might be mixing up different projects. There was meant to be a sequel to the first with Jane, but it fell through, and then they moved on with another script to do WZ and started over from scratch. I could be wrong, though, but it seems to me that's what happened.

 

[The Morningstar]

Eh, I'd be okay with a Flash movie featuring Barry, as opposed to a GL movie featuring Hal. I'd prefer Wally, but I'd at least be open to watching a Barry movie.

Well yea, at least Barry has an interesting character angle to him. With the whole family man and forensic analysist side to it.

Hal is just a one dimensional cliche of a character.

I also think Marvel has the advantage of having a few more stand alone "street level" chracters...guys like Blade or The Punisher

a lot of DC characters are linked to the big guns....Id love a Nightwing movie, but he's linked to Batman so you'd have to weave that in....I think Booster Gold would make a nice action/comedy...they did a bang up job with him in Smallville

Booster Gold would be awesome. Funnily enough Reynolds would have suited that role perfectly too. More so than even Wally i think.