The "who would have been a better Venom" thread.

[Lantern Venom]

Unfortunatley, that compromise isn't going to happen. Look at recent pics of Gopher.

Yeah, it's uproarious that everyone is saying "look how big he is now". Cripes, he's not even 200lbs!

 

[Lantern Venom]

whoops. Double post. sorry.

 

[ges681]

they should just call this the "49erVenom hates Topher" thread

 

[Iglius]

When George Clooney was cast as Batman, I knew he would stink up the joint. He was just too comedic looking for the role.
Years later he stated ,"I may have singled handedly killed the franchise." That may be overstating it but he realized that he wasn't right for the role.

And your point is?


Look, there's a reason why they're not making Eddie huge. Have you listened to the Comic-Con interview with Topher? He said they are trying to show how Peter and Eddie are very much alike: Same job, and eventually same powers (yes, I know Venom is not exactly like Spiderman but you know what he meant, and he's a Spiderman fan, so he knows too). So they want to show how the same powers affect people with different upbringing, with Eddie's being not so good.

And really.....Vin Diesel? Come on people.

 

[TheCardPlayer]

Why do you think that though? Look at Brock in the comics, he's huge. Look at Duncan, likewise.

This is freaking pathetic. All you are looking at is the bulk. You don't even care about acting. You are not a real Venom fan. You're just a tool.

Any real Venom fan knows that Brock is not just big muscles. I'm glad that dumbasses didn't cast the movie.

 

[Tangled Web]

This is freaking pathetic. All you are looking at is the bulk. You don't even care about acting. You are not a real Venom fan. You're just a tool.

Any real Venom fan knows that Brock is not just big muscles. I'm glad that dumbasses didn't cast the movie.

You're making it sound as if Duncan isn't a good actor. You're equating that muscles = bad acting. That my friend isn't true. Duncan wouldn't be my first choice but he has the Brock build and he can act. Topher doesn't have that build, which is essential to Brock.

My choice would be Peter Sarsgaard.

Oh, and the personal insults are really classy. If anyone is a tool, it's you for supporting Sony no matter what.

 

[Lantern Venom]

And your point is?


Look, there's a reason why they're not making Eddie huge. Have you listened to the Comic-Con interview with Topher? He said they are trying to show how Peter and Eddie are very much alike: Same job, and eventually same powers (yes, I know Venom is not exactly like Spiderman but you know what he meant, and he's a Spiderman fan, so he knows too). So they want to show how the same powers affect people with different upbringing, with Eddie's being not so good.

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I understand the logic and it's flawed. This isn't about the mundane " Brock & Peter are mirror images of each other " ( yawn), it's about Raimi exploiting a beloved character for money without giving him his due. Since Venom's inception, Spidey has refered to him as his most dangerous foe. Thus, Raimi should have had the common sense to bring out this very important turing point in Spidey's life and not muck it up with any Ultimate Venom sythesis because he doesn't "get" Venom. How juvenile can he be?
Instead of the goofy looking "evil twin" character, we could have ( should have ) gotten a massive, terrifying, slobbering, rampaging beast that was nonetheless intelligent and resourceful. That is the only storyline befitting of an uber-villian like Venom. Raimi owed it to the character and every Spider-man fan who has ever enjoyed a Venom story.

 

[Lantern Venom]

Oh, and the personal insults are really classy. If anyone is a tool, it's you for supporting Sony no matter what.

Isn't it ironic that when one expresses a dissenting opinion with no mailce towards other board members, that person is met with low-brow retorts? It's not difficult to keep discussions focused on the subject matter without resulting to sophomoric babble.

 

[TheCardPlayer]

Please just shut the **** up.


And I'm saying that on the behalf of everyone here. For all of those who didn't have the balls to say it.



Just ****!

 

[Lantern Venom]

Please just shut the **** up.


And I'm saying that on the behalf of everyone here. For all of those who didn't have the balls to say it.



Just ****!

Wait a sec, I pulled myself out of the Topher thread to deescalate it. Then you seek me out where I said I would be just to say this? Can't we just co-exist in different places? It's not like I'm Topher bashing in your living room.

 

[Matt Murdock]

Oh My God I Agree With The Card Player

Stop This Incessant Nagging Of One Another.

 

[Lantern Venom]

Oh My God I Agree With The Card Player

Stop This Incessant Nagging Of One Another.

This is obviously an anti- Topher thread. Anyone who comes here should realize that.

 

[Matt Murdock]

did i mention topher grace?


i don't recall doing so... oh thats right i didnt, you just made that the issue becuase you're a dense and immature individual. I said that you should stop bickering like school girls... but you brought up the point about topher grace.

therefore your response to my request that you stop arguing has no meaning.


idiot.

 

[Lantern Venom]

did i mention topher grace?


i don't recall doing so... oh thats right i didnt, you just made that the issue becuase you're a dense and immature individual. I said that you should stop bickering like school girls... but you brought up the point about topher grace.

therefore your response to my request that you stop arguing has no meaning.


idiot.

Who's the one name-calling? Who's doing the flaming? Go back and look at the Topher thread. Even after everyone started attacking me, I took the high road. I have no desire to create any personal animosity but I do have the right to my opinion and I will keep expressing it. I can't be responsible for how other's react to my points.

 

[Matt Murdock]

do you ever shut up?

really, expressing an opinion is one thing, but not knowing when to stop typing is another.

 

[Lantern Venom]

do you ever shut up?

really, expressing an opinion is one thing, but not knowing when to stop typing is another.

I joined SHH last October and didn't start posting until a week or so ago. I was angry--very angry--after the casting of Grace but I knew it would be disruptive to come here and lay down the profane tirades I was thinking. So, yes, I did shut up for months.
SSF, you don't have to agree with me. You don't have to like me and you don't have to respond to me. However, I am going to keep posting my feelings within the confines of SHH rules.

 

[Matt Murdock]

 

[Lantern Venom]

Respect.

 

[ges681]

I understand the logic and it's flawed. This isn't about the mundane " Brock & Peter are mirror images of each other " ( yawn), it's about Raimi exploiting a beloved character for money without giving him his due. Since Venom's inception, Spidey has refered to him as his most dangerous foe. Thus, Raimi should have had the common sense to bring out this very important turing point in Spidey's life and not muck it up with any Ultimate Venom sythesis because he doesn't "get" Venom. How juvenile can he be?
Instead of the goofy looking "evil twin" character, we could have ( should have ) gotten a massive, terrifying, slobbering, rampaging beast that was nonetheless intelligent and resourceful. That is the only storyline befitting of an uber-villian like Venom. Raimi owed it to the character and every Spider-man fan who has ever enjoyed a Venom story.

That sentence describes me and Im happy with the choices he made.
Thinks its better than a massive, all-muscle bad actor.

 

[XCharlieX]

And then...You wouldn't have VENOM. Flash Thompson is NOT Venom, Eddie Brock is. (And Mac Gargan, currently, but thats another story) Flash Thompson is not a supervillain, and its wrong to make him one.

Absolutely not. You would have film version Venom, just not the complete translation everyone wants to impose on directors. Once again they dont HAVE to heed the comics completely.. this is a priviledge so kiss Sam Raimis feet because many directors wouldnt stay as true as him. Just like comic writers make different versions of the same story, directors and their writers have different visions as well and have a right to adapt the comic with their interpretation. So while its ridiculous to you due to cult loyalty to comics, the idea is still valid and might feel right at home for the rest of us.

by the way, XCharlieX, flash doesnt have a grudge, he's just a bully to parker. Technically peter would have the grudge

Well i wouldnt call it a massive grudge but i could see Flash meeting Parker at a reunion and the ass kicking he received from Parker in front of everyone could escalate depending on the writing direction. I would think Flash finds it quite odd how Parker got the strength of 20 men out of nowhere.

I think Flash was one of the first ones i spotted as a potential venom. Uncle Bens speech about those being the years you change into the man youre going to be for the rest of your life also applies to him as well.The black gear he wore and his attitude i felt was quite the foreshadowing and a door of opportunity for future films IF ever used.

 

[X-Rated]

As a combination of great acting ability, coupled with character look alike, a vicious gaze, and muscular physique, with the fact that he's a natural dirty blonde; I say Cole Hauser.

 

[Tangled Web]

Hey X-Rated, how about Mickey Rourke?

 

[The Joker]

Please just shut the **** up.


And I'm saying that on the behalf of everyone here. For all of those who didn't have the balls to say it.



Just ****!

idiot.

And this is why the Spider-Man forums are going to hell. Because of people like these two who insult others because they dislike their opinions. Spideyssuperfan has always been a troll, but TheCardPlayer was cool once upon time. But over the last few months he's been getting worse and worse.

49erVenom you should get a moderator in here to put these two trolls in their place. God knows there's enough of them about. You shouldn't have to put up with this kind of nonsense just because you don't agree with the masses.

 

[DOG LIPS]

The flaming and name-calling is going to stop right now. If some of you can't be civil and not resort to childish crap you will get some time off.

 

[walternewell]

Maybe I should keep my ideas to myself right now...