CD Projeckt Red The Witcher 3

[DarthSkywalker]

I agree with DarthSkywalker about Mass Effect 3 being a better overall game then Mass Effect 2. A meh ending isn't going to invalidate a good 40-60 hours of a better game experience.

Yep. I dislike the ending quite a bit. But it is literally the ending. The battle before I really liked, along with the long walk.

Its interesting, because when I considering the Witcher 3, I have heard complaints about the finale. Not the endings (which seem to get all the love), but the 2-3 missions leading up to it. And I kind of agree that they could have been a bit better. But does that negate the incredible 150+ hours I put into one playthrough for me? Not for me.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Count yourselves in the minority then. ME3 marked BW's turning point. Fans started jumping ship en masse and their reception and reputation has been getting more and more tepid by gamers and reviewers since.

Oh the irony.

 

[BlueLanternKal]

Oh the irony.

I'll take what I can get. I can give two ****s about your disneyfied superhero movies.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I'll take what I can get. I can give two ****s about your disneyfied superhero movies.

I wasn't the one that just based my argument on what the majority thinks. You are.

 

[BlueLanternKal]

I wasn't the one that just based my argument on what the majority thinks. You are.

Like you haven't rubbed the rock salt in wound before.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Like you haven't rubbed the rock salt in wound before.

My argument is never something is because critics or the public say it is. Simply that public and critical perception are how the majority see it, not that I agree with it. I like the Avengers, but it isn't in my top 5 Marvel movies. It is considered an all time classic and is seen as the best by the public and critics alike. On the other hand, I really like Ant-Man and its in my top 5. That is not the public or critical perception. So basing my argument about my personal feelings on a game or movie do to public or critical perception would be an error imo. Like with the Fast series. I only really like 2 movies in the series, but that doesn't keep it from being really popular with a lot of people. Nor do I think that makes them wrong, just different opinions.

You on the other hand complain about the perception of the DCEU quite often. Now you used it to back up your argument here. That is a contradiction.

 

[BlueLanternKal]

My argument is never something is because critics or the public say it is. Simply that public and critical perception are how the majority see it, not that I agree with it. I like the Avengers, but it isn't in my top 5 Marvel movies. It is considered an all time classic and is seen as the best by the public and critics alike. On the other hand, I really like Ant-Man and its in my top 5. That is not the public or critical perception. So basing my argument about my personal feelings on a game or movie do to public or critical perception would be an error imo. Like with the Fast series. I only really like 2 movies in the series, but that doesn't keep it from being really popular with a lot of people. Nor do I think that makes them wrong, just different opinions.

You on the other hand complain about the perception of the DCEU quite often. Now you used it to back up your argument here. That is a contradiction.

Pretty it up however you like. You're always a dick to people whose opinions don't mesh with your own. And yet you get away with it. I call someone unpleasant and I get hit with a forum infraction.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Pretty it up however you like. You're always a dick to people whose opinions don't mesh with your own. And yet you get away with it. I call someone unpleasant and I get hit with a forum infraction.

There is a fundamental difference between disagreeing and trolling other posters. I have been a jerk in the past, never denied it. I am not being a jerk here to you. I am arguing the merits of the game as I see them.

Though it seems to you posted this to avoid the point of my post by complaining about me.

 

[OutOfBoose]

ME2 was a deeply satisfying game for me. Yes, the final boss is underwhelming, but when everything else is so damn good - it's easy to forgive. Of course, after The Witcher 3 ME2 doesn't shine for me as bright as it did a few years ago, but I still love hundreds of hours I spent with the game. My favorite part of the trilogy.

ME3 had it's moments and I don't even hate the ending like many people do, but it wasn't as engrossing as ME1 and especially ME2 for me. Yes, the battle system is more fluid, but improvements aren't as drastic as they were from ME1 to ME2. When they basically went from almost broken to tight and polished. Writing and story weren't as satisfying as in previous games.

 

[Marvolo]

“He's an arrogant motherf****r” - Metro 2033 writer hits out at The Witcher novel scribe

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Update April 18, 2017: It’s no secret that Andrzej Sapkowski doesn’t much like videogames, as you can read about in our original story below....
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Andrzej does sound arrogant or really niave or like he is in denial about video games or completely ignorant about the strides video games have made in storytelling.

I enjoy the Witcher books for what they are, but I enjoyed Witcher 3 more than his books and wouldnt have even discovered his books if it wasnt for the Witcher games.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

ME2 was a deeply satisfying game for me. Yes, the final boss is underwhelming, but when everything else is so damn good - it's easy to forgive. Of course, after The Witcher 3 ME2 doesn't shine for me as bright as it did a few years ago, but I still love hundreds of hours I spent with the game. My favorite part of the trilogy.

ME3 had it's moments and I don't even hate the ending like many people do, but it wasn't as engrossing as ME1 and especially ME2 for me. Yes, the battle system is more fluid, but improvements aren't as drastic as they were from ME1 to ME2. When they basically went from almost broken to tight and polished. Writing and story weren't as satisfying as in previous games.

The Witcher 3 has consumed me in a way no other game has. I am playing through it from start to finish again for a third time. I will play a new game, and then return to playing the Witcher 3. Its nuts considering each of my first two playthroughs were well over 150 hours.

My favorite Mass Effect game is probably still the first one, because I found the main story so engrossing. And while the game play wasn't all that good, it did handle the elements of an RPG better imo. I like the writing and story in 3 more then 2. One thing I am not big on in these games are exposition based conversations. And that is what takes place a lot of in all three Mass Effect games. What I like about the writing in 1 and 3 is the big in game events while you are actually playing. It is why my favorite part of Mass Effect 2 is the Liar of the Shadow Broker DLC.

This is another thing I really like about the Witcher. It definitely has plenty of exposition conversations. But they are there in a very take it or leave it capacity for the most part. Otherwise you are moving the quest along. I never liked needing the conversations to simply unlock something. On my recent playthrough of 2, I spent so much time going around the ship making sure I had all the conversations to open up paths. Blah.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Andrzej does sound arrogant or really niave or like he is in denial about video games or completely ignorant about the strides video games have made in storytelling.

I enjoy the Witcher books for what they are, but I enjoyed Witcher 3 more than his books and wouldnt have even discovered his books if it wasnt for the Witcher games.

Yeah, I'd be lying if I said my favorite Witchers stories weren't in the games. The main story of 3, the main story of 2 (both ways) and Hearts of Stone are probably my three favorite stories really.

 

[OutOfBoose]

Sapkowski strikes me as a complete jerk. Every interview I read with him - he's incredibly unlikable as a person.

 

[Iceman]

Sapkowski strikes me as a complete jerk. Every interview I read with him - he's incredibly unlikable as a person.

Yep, same here. It's putting me off from reading the books.

 

[SpideyVille]

Yeah, his comments really make me not want to support the guy, but I'm about 20 pages away from finishing the final book, so it's kinda too late for that. But I will say, I have enjoyed the books, although he does need to get over himself because they are not all that. They're great, but he makes it sound like it's perfection.

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

I highly advise looking past Sapkowski's arrogance. Reading the novels honestly makes the world of the games better. He's always come of as a guy who's secretly ashamed of the material he writes.

 

[OutOfBoose]

The books are really nice. I'm still impressed how CDPR was able to capture Sapkowski' vision. You read the books and see the game.

 

[BlueLanternKal]

I highly advise looking past Sapkowski's arrogance. Reading the novels honestly makes the world of the games better. He's always come of as a guy who's secretly ashamed of the material he writes.

This. He wrote the first couple of stories for fun. He would read the crap short stories in a local magazine and thought he could do better. That's how the whole thing started.

 

[Marvolo]

I highly advise looking past Sapkowski's arrogance. Reading the novels honestly makes the world of the games better. He's always come of as a guy who's secretly ashamed of the material he writes.

Agreed. Some authors are downright unlikeable, unstable, or just creepy. But if they write stuff you enjoy then read it. Personality be damned.

 

[TheVileOne]

The man is an artist. The greatest artists are moody, eccentric and quirky people.

Just remember guys. CD Projekt RED didn't create Geralt of Rivia, Ciri, Yennefer, Vesemir and Triss Merigold. Sapkowski did.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The man is an artist. The greatest artists are moody, eccentric and quirky people.

Just remember guys. CD Projekt RED didn't create Geralt of Rivia, Ciri, Yennefer, Vesemir and Triss Merigold. Sapkowski did.

They kind of created Triss. She is very different.

Also they are definitely the ones that introduced to the broader world. Which seems to annoy the hell out of him.

 

[Marvolo]

Its kind of a George Lucas situation. Yeah he created the characters and universe, and we have to acknowledge that, but other people have demonstrated that they are capable of using those elements better than the creator.

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

They kind of created Triss. She is very different.

Also they are definitely the ones that introduced to the broader world. Which seems to annoy the hell out of him.

Doesn't really matter. The point stands that we wouldn't have the games without him. The guy reminds me a lot of Alan Moore around when the Watchmen film was getting made. Alan made a bad deal back in the day and it bit him on the ass. Sapkowski did the same thing. Folks are allowed to be ********, its not the most endearing quality, but we shouldn't hold it against their art.

Its kind of a George Lucas situation. Yeah he created the characters and universe, and we have to acknowledge that, but other people have demonstrated that they are capable of using those elements better than the creator.

I wouldn't necessarily say they did it "better," but they did his work justice to say the least.

 

[Marvolo]

Doesn't really matter. The point stands that we wouldn't have the games without him. The guy reminds me a lot of Alan Moore around when the Watchmen film was getting made. Alan made a bad deal back in the day and it bit him on the ass. Sapkowski did the same thing. Folks are allowed to be ********, its not the most endearing quality, but we shouldn't hold it against their art.

Sapkowski didnt make a bad deal. He got his books far more recognition than they would have had. Monetarily he may not have made the best deal, but he has no doubt sold more books because of those games.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Doesn't really matter. The point stands that we wouldn't have the games without him. The guy reminds me a lot of Alan Moore around when the Watchmen film was getting made. Alan made a bad deal back in the day and it bit him on the ass. Sapkowski did the same thing. Folks are allowed to be ********, its not the most endearing quality, but we shouldn't hold it against their art.



I wouldn't say necessarily say they did it "better," but they did his work justice to say the least.

We don't have the game because of him either. Its his source material, but CDPR made the decision to make them. He had no involvement and wanted nothing to do with them. He had nothing to do with their success, success far great then what he was able to produce with the characters he created.

Geralt, Triss, Yen, Ciri, and everyone got their "face" from CDPR.

And personally I think they did it better. One thing I really like about the games is how they took the source material and made it more unique. I really like the books, but there is a generic quality to the world of the Witcher. What CDPR did was give it a look and feel a lot like Peter Jackson. The big different there was that Tolkien's books did a really good job of that already, which is why you have such a divide with the fans over those adaptations.