The Wrestling Thread.....Has No Confidence - Part 34

[the_ultimate_evil]

I was a fan of Hogan. Thats what makes it so annoying that he's hell bent on stomping out the careers of others and is only in interested in himself. It doesn't have to be like that but he's willing to strangle the business to help himself. If he had his way there would be no business for him to make money off of eventually.

agreed if he had stepped back and became a booker/talent scout or hell even a commentator of manger he could have went out on a high and maintained some dignity

sorry but i guess a divorce, a talentless limpet of a daughter and a complete brain dead **** up of a son can make a guy do stupid things for money

 

[Pink Ranger]

Jesse White, son of the retired WWE and WCW legend Leon "Big Van Vader" White, has officially been added to the Florida Championship Wrestling (FCW) roster page.

They'll call him Jesse Skywalker.

Hey! Spoilers please!! You've just ruined what could be the most dramatic reveal in wrestling history. t:

 

[Metamorpho1977]

WWE Network to Air Legends Reality Show, Title Wanted
by Nick Paglino October 17, 2011
2
WWE is once again asking fans to vote on the title of a new show, which will air on the WWE Network. It will be a reality show featuring a group of WWE Legends living under one roof. The show title options that you can vote for are as follows:

-WWE House of Fame

-WWE Old Timer Acres

-WWE Retired and Rowdy Roommates

-WWE Old School Yard

-WWE Legends House

You can vote on the names by visiting WWE.com.

I'm voting for WWE Old School Yard

 

[Mister J]

Iron Shiek absolutely has to be in that house.

 

[X Knight]

man, the TNA results, and the backstage Hogan politics, is just so........

I've lost a great deal of respect for Hogan these past few years.

in many ways, I would love to the some of the TNA talent like AJ, Daniels, and Joe pull a Radicalz and jump ship to WWE.

 

[Pink Ranger]

WWE Network to Air Legends Reality Show, Title Wanted
by Nick Paglino October 17, 2011
2
WWE is once again asking fans to vote on the title of a new show, which will air on the WWE Network. It will be a reality show featuring a group of WWE Legends living under one roof.

So it's like Big Brother, except with no women and all the men are old, fat, current or former drug addicts. That's just good TV right there.

 

[Metamorpho1977]

Iron Shiek absolutely has to be in that house.

And the Bushwackers will be there throwing sardines everywhere.

 

[Metamorpho1977]

So it's like Big Brother, except with no women and all the men are old, fat, current or former drug addicts. That's just good TV right there.

You might get some girl girl action from Mae Young and Madusa.

 

[Wheels]

Hulk Hogan is the reason I got into wrestling, but I have zero respect for him as a person. He has proved time and time again what a low life he is. All you have to do is look at the situation with Nick to understand this. I will never mark out for Hogan again, and if he left the business tomorrow I wouldn't shed a tear.

 

[Darkness Falls]

agreed, i can't wear my hulkamania shirt without feeling ashamed lol

 

[Metallo]

You might get some girl girl action from Mae Young and Madusa.

Madusa looks pretty good to be almost 50 so I wouldn't mind some HLA from her.

Mae Young...

WWE Network to Air Legends Reality Show, Title Wanted
by Nick Paglino October 17, 2011
2
WWE is once again asking fans to vote on the title of a new show, which will air on the WWE Network. It will be a reality show featuring a group of WWE Legends living under one roof. The show title options that you can vote for are as follows:

-WWE House of Fame

-WWE Old Timer Acres

-WWE Retired and Rowdy Roommates

-WWE Old School Yard

-WWE Legends House

You can vote on the names by visiting WWE.com.

I'm voting for WWE Old School Yard

I was only joking when I talked about shows like this, WWE. Between this and the stupid Divas reality show...oy. They can do better than this to fill time.

 

[Mister J]

That's a real crap last minute turn given everything that went into the weekend. I'd punch Terry Suntan right in his ****ing mouth if I were Bobby. Then again, Dixie, Brother Love or whoever just went along with it. Someone needs to tell these people what year it is.

 

[Dr. Evil]

WWE Network to Air Legends Reality Show, Title Wanted
by Nick Paglino October 17, 2011
2
WWE is once again asking fans to vote on the title of a new show, which will air on the WWE Network. It will be a reality show featuring a group of WWE Legends living under one roof. The show title options that you can vote for are as follows:

-WWE House of Fame

-WWE Old Timer Acres

-WWE Retired and Rowdy Roommates

-WWE Old School Yard

-WWE Legends House

You can vote on the names by visiting WWE.com.

I'm voting for WWE Old School Yard

No Iron Sheik = Fail

 

[Dr. Evil]

Big Van Vader's Son Added To FCW Official Roster Page
by Matt Boone October 17, 2011
3
Jesse White, son of the retired WWE and WCW legend Leon "Big Van Vader" White, has officially been added to the Florida Championship Wrestling (FCW) roster page.

They'll call him Jesse Skywalker.

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/243694-big-van-vaders-son-added-to-fcw-official-roster-page

Good, because "Lance Uppercut" will be Chris Hero's name when he signs with the WWE.

 

[Wheels]

Jesse White already has a WWE name. It's Jake Carter.

 

[epc11223]

i would still hope that maybe this hogan thing is part of a work but hogan just turned face at bfg. it's pretty sad that hogan still has this much clout in tna considering he promised to turn the company around and he has done nothing but hurt the company. i admit to not knowing too much about tna, but i have watched a little bit of it the past few weeks and they really did seem to build up roode, and rightfully so. tna has some good talent and i would hope that they could get to wwe and get some mainstream attention. it would be such a great wrestlemania match if you had morrison vs aj styles. unfortunately, i have a feeling morrison is on the way out which to me is completely appalling because i used to think that his wrestling performance would somehow match up to hbk. hbk has been a favorite wrestler of mine for a long time and it would have been nice if morrison could have carried on the tradition of putting on a performance like noone else. not that morrison is in the same league, but i think he has some pretty good wrestling abilities. i remember when he jumped onto the railing to stay in the rumble, i think that's pretty cool. now morrison has become a jobber! the wwe should have it so cena gets hurt and put him on commentary for a bit, so the wwe can use some of the younger talent. especially since jr got "fired". i think cena can do a good job on commentary if he tells it like it is and then he'd come in once in awhile to make a save. kind of what wwe did when austin got hurt by owen hart. they kept austin in the show, but he never really wrestled. it would help cena by not always being in the limelight, and help other wrestlers, but cena would still be a part of the show.

for the tna guys that i would include into wwe, would be:
aj
roode
anderson
alex shelley
sabin
storm
angle

i know anderson and angle are originally from wwe, but i think anderson has potential, and angle always puts on great matches (for the most part). i would include hardy, but he's too messed up. hogan, flair, sting, rvd and most of the other guys from the tna roster i can honestly say that i could do without.

it's so sad, i miss the days when wrestling was fun to watch, rather than watching it because there's nothing else on

 

[herakles]

The biggest reason Mascaras is going in is because he's related to Del Rio and they'll use that connection to promote both.

The WWE HOF stopped begin the "WWE" HOF a long time ago. Funny that they'll put guys in who did very little for them and yet it takes Randy Savage dropping dead to even be considered. The HOF fast becoming a joke to me. Will Mascaras be enshrined next to The Fridge or Drew Carey?

I agree! Anytime you have a HoF that includes one or sometime used non-wrestlers it loses it's luster. Also as long as Macho-Man and Bruno Sammartino aren't included it isn't a real WWWF/WWF/WWE Hall of Fame!

 

[Nightmare]

Jesse White already has a WWE name. It's Jake Carter.

+Thanks, I was looking for jesse skywalker and couldnt find anyone by that name.

 

[herakles]

i would still hope that maybe this hogan thing is part of a work but hogan just turned face at bfg. it's pretty sad that hogan still has this much clout in tna considering he promised to turn the company around and he has done nothing but hurt the company. i admit to not knowing too much about tna, but i have watched a little bit of it the past few weeks and they really did seem to build up roode, and rightfully so. tna has some good talent and i would hope that they could get to wwe and get some mainstream attention. it would be such a great wrestlemania match if you had morrison vs aj styles. unfortunately, i have a feeling morrison is on the way out which to me is completely appalling because i used to think that his wrestling performance would somehow match up to hbk. hbk has been a favorite wrestler of mine for a long time and it would have been nice if morrison could have carried on the tradition of putting on a performance like noone else. not that morrison is in the same league, but i think he has some pretty good wrestling abilities. i remember when he jumped onto the railing to stay in the rumble, i think that's pretty cool. now morrison has become a jobber! the wwe should have it so cena gets hurt and put him on commentary for a bit, so the wwe can use some of the younger talent. especially since jr got "fired". i think cena can do a good job on commentary if he tells it like it is and then he'd come in once in awhile to make a save. kind of what wwe did when austin got hurt by owen hart. they kept austin in the show, but he never really wrestled. it would help cena by not always being in the limelight, and help other wrestlers, but cena would still be a part of the show.

for the tna guys that i would include into wwe, would be:
aj
roode
anderson
alex shelley
sabin
storm
angle

i know anderson and angle are originally from wwe, but i think anderson has potential, and angle always puts on great matches (for the most part). i would include hardy, but he's too messed up. hogan, flair, sting, rvd and most of the other guys from the tna roster i can honestly say that i could do without.

it's so sad, i miss the days when wrestling was fun to watch, rather than watching it because there's nothing else on

Honestly WHY do you guys want TNA to shut down and all their main guys moved over to WWE. Remember that EVERY time a top NWA/WCW/ECW guy moved over WWE they either got eaten up a top WWE guy or they got buried!

I agree with Bishof Hogan and Russo running TNA it has become a WCW wannabe. But remember when WCW and ECW closed up how bad Wrestling got with only the WWE! You need competition! Hogan like or not is still the big dog status wise in TNA. Now the ball is in Roode's court he can sulk or he can prove Hogan wrong?! I personally thought that having him win was a good idea but I have a feeling that TNA wants Crimson or Hardy to be the next champ?

 

[Metamorpho1977]

+Thanks, I was looking for jesse skywalker and couldnt find anyone by that name.

I was making a Star Wars joke. Vader would make a return appearance and say Jesse, I am your father, then powerbomb the hell out of him.

 

[Wheels]

It doesn't matter what Roode does because he will never win Hogan over. Hogan is too set in his ways to ever give Roode a chance.

 

[epc11223]

Honestly WHY do you guys want TNA to shut down and all their main guys moved over to WWE. Remember that EVERY time a top NWA/WCW/ECW guy moved over WWE they either got eaten up a top WWE guy or they got buried!

I agree with Bishof Hogan and Russo running TNA it has become a WCW wannabe. But remember when WCW and ECW closed up how bad Wrestling got with only the WWE! You need competition! Hogan like or not is still the big dog status wise in TNA. Now the ball is in Roode's court he can sulk or he can prove Hogan wrong?! I personally thought that having him win was a good idea but I have a feeling that TNA wants Crimson or Hardy to be the next champ?

unfortunately if they really did go to wwe they would probably be buried. but in my dream world, it would be awesome to have really classic matchups with aj styles and morrison, or roode vs cm punk, cena vs angle i think would be a good matchup. i think if built up, and if they were both on the same page, orton vs anderson would also be a good feud considering there was real life animosity between the two. i know this is one of the reasons why sting never wanted to go to wwe, but for me, talent is talent. i don't really care if you worked for another company, if you're good, you should be utilized. while hogan built up wrestling, he is long past being relevant, and is not helping tna. tna could be awesome with the x division, but the company still uses hogan and the older generation too much.

wwe is not doing the greatest when it comes to building up there young stars, but guys like ziggler, rhodes, r truth, the miz, evan bourne, and kofi are kind of being built up right now. you also have cm punk who's being built up (for the most part) and they have a young champion in alberto del rio. his championship run isn't anything remarkable, and i don't think he's being built up well, but at least it's someone other than hogan in the spot light. i also like how mark henry is being built to be like a yokozuna type. also right now, you have sprinkles of the rock who i think generates a ton excitement and the only real wrestler to make it out of wwe and still retain popularity/relevance. there's also speculation that austin may return for a match, which helps build excitement in the iwc.

i think the sudden loss of edge, hbk, undertaker (to a large degree), and a i think a few other guys really took wwe suddenly and they were forced to build stars instead of doing it slowly. i think if wwe built up the championships more, that would help make the wrestlers and their charcters more important.

 

[herakles]

unfortunately if they really did go to wwe they would probably be buried. but in my dream world, it would be awesome to have really classic matchups with aj styles and morrison, or roode vs cm punk, cena vs angle i think would be a good matchup. i think if built up, and if they were both on the same page, orton vs anderson would also be a good feud considering there was real life animosity between the two. i know this is one of the reasons why sting never wanted to go to wwe, but for me, talent is talent. i don't really care if you worked for another company, if you're good, you should be utilized. while hogan built up wrestling, he is long past being relevant, and is not helping tna. tna could be awesome with the x division, but the company still uses hogan and the older generation too much.

wwe is not doing the greatest when it comes to building up there young stars, but guys like ziggler, rhodes, r truth, the miz, evan bourne, and kofi are kind of being built up right now. you also have cm punk who's being built up (for the most part) and they have a young champion in alberto del rio. his championship run isn't anything remarkable, and i don't think he's being built up well, but at least it's someone other than hogan in the spot light. i also like how mark henry is being built to be like a yokozuna type. also right now, you have sprinkles of the rock who i think generates a ton excitement and the only real wrestler to make it out of wwe and still retain popularity/relevance. there's also speculation that austin may return for a match, which helps build excitement in the iwc.

i think the sudden loss of edge, hbk, undertaker (to a large degree), and a i think a few other guys really took wwe suddenly and they were forced to build stars instead of doing it slowly. i think if wwe built up the championships more, that would help make the wrestlers and their charcters more important.

I agree! Remember when Samoa Joe was built up as the next Goldberg only to get buried! TNA under utilized Joe! IMO If I was in charge of TNA I would get rid of Russo and Hogan! Flair was a decent booker in WCW. You just can't have a guy who loves to glorify himself as the Booker! The booker needs to be either inactive or a jobber!!

 

[herakles]

Anyways I have been watching NWA Championship Wrestling from Hollywood on nwahollywood.com. That show is way better booked than TNA could ever hoped to be!

 

[Metallo]

Honestly WHY do you guys want TNA to shut down and all their main guys moved over to WWE. Remember that EVERY time a top NWA/WCW/ECW guy moved over WWE they either got eaten up a top WWE guy or they got buried!

I agree with Bishof Hogan and Russo running TNA it has become a WCW wannabe. But remember when WCW and ECW closed up how bad Wrestling got with only the WWE! You need competition! Hogan like or not is still the big dog status wise in TNA. Now the ball is in Roode's court he can sulk or he can prove Hogan wrong?! I personally thought that having him win was a good idea but I have a feeling that TNA wants Crimson or Hardy to be the next champ?

I definitely don't want TNA shut down despite how stupid it is. The very reason the entire business is in the shape its in is that there aren't enough places to work to give the wrestlers leverage or options or for them to learn when they are starting out. If WWE had any sense they'd want places like ROH TNA and anywhere else to stay afloat simply so wrestlers could get experience because quite frankly WWE's farm system has been a bust compared to the way the territories helped groom talent.

But at this point even though there is a chance some TNA guys would get buried in WWE its no worse than whats happening to them in TNA and at least they'll make more money and get more exposure. Most of TNA's younger but experienced guys aren't Vinnie Macs cup of tea but nor are they Hogans...and Hogan knows far less about wrestling promotion than Vince does. The E has always at least shown they are willing to give a chance to fresher/younger talent despite Vince and HHH's biases. Maybe more so in the past than now but Hogan never has. Its always been about Hogan. And while Bischoff has been innovative at times he usually just follows Hogan's lead. Russo's an idiot and Dixie Carter is too naive to realize all these guys are taking her for a ride.

TNA has just let guys like AJ, Joe, and others rot for years without really taking them to the next level and sticking to them. At this point it wouldn't hurt them to at least take the risk and consider WWE even though the odds are against them to make it there too. TNA doesn't appreciate those guys as top tier talents and just sees them as warm bodies to fill out the roster.