The Wrestling Thread Is At Home Until Further Notice - - Part 141

[TheNextNolan22]

MEANWHILE! on WWE.com:

Spoiler

 

[SpideyFan866]

MEANWHILE! on WWE.com:

Spoiler

 

[bullets]

And on another Punk-related note... I just went back & watched his Summerslam match with Lesnar and man, that is pro wrestling at its finest. The storytelling in their ring work & the larger narrative with Punk trying to get his hands on Paul Heyman is nothing short of brilliance. I also forgot how good Lesnar is at selling too... he made all of Punk's offense seem legit when it could have been super unrealistic if he didn't sell for Punk. For a guy his size & someone who only gets in the ring sporadically, he's amazing at what he does. Again, another reason why the crowd loves Lesnar.

They put on one hell of a show. For all the complaints about part timers I have none about Brock Lesnar. He's consistently good and it will be nice once he gets past the Undertaker so he can work with new stars. I'm interested to see what he does at the Elimination chamber. I doubt they'll put him in a match against Batista this soon.

 

[venom892]

To think they didn't even nominate that match at the slammys must have been seen as a slap to the face to Punk.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Not that the Slammys mean anything to begin with...

 

[sweetre15]

Not that the Slammys mean anything to begin with...

True but WWE has freedom to manipulate public perception with The Slammys.

Fortunately Bryan still won Superstar of The Year.

 

[Darkness Falls]

that article on wwe.com is a joke
there's nothing cool about batista's wardrobe XD

 

[sweetre15]

Too funny to not share:


HEADLIES: CM Punk Hoping to Fill The Rock’s Void by Coming Back as Overpaid Part-Timer

CLEVELAND – Former WWE Champion CM Punk has informed Vince McMahon on Monday that he was walking away from the company, and Punk has since been written out of all foreseeable events. It has been learned that Punk is looking to come back for a “Dwayne Johnson type of deal” that would preclude him from performing at live events, and getting paid unreal sums of cash to do so.


“After Batista won the Royal Rumble match for doing minimal work, Punk is hoping to take the same career path,” says one company insider. “Punk’s been exhausted from years of working night after night without the use of medication, so he figures that four or five matches a year going forward will improve his quality of life.”


As of Tuesday evening, Punk was said to be proving his worth toward such a contract. The 35-year-old has reportedly begun forgetting the names of any WWE performer that isn’t a full-time main eventer, referring to the others as “C-level stars” on his Twitter account.


“I texted him Monday evening to ask how he was holding up,” says WWE veteran Curt Hawkins. “He said he didn’t know who I was. At first I was mad, but now it makes sense. If he gets that contract, imagine how great it’d be for business. I bet we’d all benefit somehow, even if I can’t figure out a way.”


Some have noted that Punk hasn’t been in the WWE World Championship picture for nearly one year, an unheard-of time span for a performer that sells the amount of merchandise that he has. With Rock, and now Batista, setting a new precedent for reduced-schedule icons by getting title shots, perhaps Punk’s hoping to do the same.
“He’d also indicated he’d like to win the 2015 Royal Rumble from the #28 spot,” said the insider. “Let some other hard-working sap go 50 minutes from number one and be ignored most of the way.”


http://www.wrestlecrap.com/headlies...s-void-by-coming-back-as-overpaid-part-timer/

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

Sky sports has just announced a new 5 year deal starting in 2015 that gains them exclusive rights to all 12 ppvs, all tv shows and all specials


Well I guess that hurts the chance of the network in the uk even more

 

[Wheels]

Despite my views on how WWE conducts business currently, apon further reflection, I'm not entirely happy with Punk either. He should fulfil the responsibilities of his contract. I've shared his frustration though.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

MEANWHILE! on WWE.com:

Spoiler

You can't make this stuff up.

 

[Herolee10]

Before you know it, they'll try to make Batista look better by making a list of Divas that he's been involved with.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Despite my views on how WWE conducts business currently, apon further reflection, I'm not entirely happy with Punk either. He should fulfil the responsibilities of his contract. I've shared his frustration though.

You are allowed to quit.

 

[Wheels]

You are allowed to quit.

Ah okay. I thought their might be some breach of contract ot something.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Ah okay. I thought their might be some breach of contract ot something.

Usually what happens is you forfeit the rest of the money you are owned on the contract. What he can't do now is go and wrestler somewhere else until after his contract is up, or if there is a specified "non-compete" time in the contract.

 

[Wheels]

Usually what happens is you forfeit the rest of the money you are owned on the contract. What he can't do now is go and wrestler somewhere else until after his contract is up, or if there is a specified "non-compete" time in the contract.

Thanks for the clarification.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I guess the WrestleMania 30 dream main event of CM Punk VS Daniel Bryan that I've been nursing for a year is most definitely NOT going to happen now....

In my mind, I keep comparing the set-up for WrestleMania 30 to WrestleMania 20. WrestleMania 20 ended with Chris Benoit and Eddie Guerrero standing tall as twin champions of the company. Of course, that all ended in tragedy, but at the time it was an incredibly positive symbolic gesture of listening to the fans and rewarding their dedication.

Currently, at least, WrestleMania 30 has a slated main event of Batista VS Randy Orton. That, for me, is the exact opposite, it's WWE taking people they feel should be headliners and telling the fans to shut up with their protesting and accept that these are the guys they should be cheering for and paying to see. I could buy it if it was something like John Cena/Rock, as those two are bona-fide enduring wrestling megastars. But Batista and Randy Orton have never been as big a deal as the marketing machine has constantly tried to tell us they are. Batista was a hugely over top babyface... for maybe 6 months. Then the novelty wore off, and his crappy attitude and underwhelming ringwork soured people on him to the point where it wasn't until his heel turn years later that he found any spark again. Randy Orton, meanwhile, is someone who WWE have been trying to tell us for over a decade is a top star and a big deal, but he has never been credible in the role and never been believable as anything other than, at a push, the number 3 guy on the roster at any given time. Though I'd say he's had more success as a heel than as a face, at least. If you're going to bash Daniel Bryan for not having what it takes to be a headline superstar who can carry the company, at least offer someone up instead who... you know.... has actually shown they have what it takes to be a headline superstar who can carry the company.

Yes, it's possible that Bryan could win Elimination Chamber and go into Mania as champion. But for me, that would be almost as big a letdown as him not winning the title at all. You deny Bryan the belt all these months, then have him win it in a multi-man scramble a few weeks before the big climactic event, thus denying him his WrestleMania moment? And Bryan/Batista is a match with no real heat or build behind it, meaning it would be an underwhelming WrestleMania 30 main event that Bryan would likely be blamed for, knowing WWE.

Of course, there's always the chance that this is all an elaborate work by WWE and everything will work out much better as the Road To WrestleMania continues. But even if they planned this all along, one has to question the wisdom of the plan, given the negative momentum coming out of a Royal Rumble, usually an event that brilliantly sets up excitement for Mania. And I've been saying "wait and see" for months now. There's only so often you can say that without starting to doubt yourself...

 

[Keyser Soze]

The difficult thing is, even Randy Orton VS Daniel Bryan is a kinda lame WrestleMania 30 main event. The match has been done to death, and Orton is so underwhelming as a top heel that he doesn't feel worthy as a match to Bryan's massive babyface momentum.

For me, the money main event for the show now is Daniel Bryan VS a Triple H for the World Title. Not what I'd have chosen ideally, but based on options now it's he best we could do. It would require somehow having Bryan get the WrestleMania title shot from Batista, and it would require HHH somehow inserting himself into the Elimination Chamber to win the title. Perhaps Bryan gets attacked during the PPV and removed from the match, making it a 5-man match. Then when someone wins at the end, HHH comes down, sledgehammers them, declares himself the 6th participant, then Pedigrees them for the win and the belt, declaring it "What's best for business."

Because let's be honest here. Triple H VS Daniel Bryan is the REAL rivalry that's been brewing the past half year. Orton has just been an agent of that.

 

[Herolee10]

Honestly, Batista vs Orton would be a "decent" match if it was just for the WHC and presented as the "first match" of the night like how previous WHC matches had been booked...but as the final match of the night? Jeez, that would be one crappy way to end the show, especially for its 30th anniversary.

I can't really wait for the fans and crowd to chew it up and spit it out repeatedly, IF it is the final match of the evening. Honestly, if this is the product that the WWE wants to force its paying audience to like and enjoy, despite it being obvious on who a majority of fans and wrestlers want to see in the spotlight, then they have every right to be treated for the crap that they really are.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Another possibility I'll admit has some value and logical precedent (though it's far from my first choice) is to go the Randy Orton VS Batista VS Daniel Bryan triple threat route. The precedent here is the aforementioned WrestleMania 20 main event. Chris Benoit VS Triple H for the World Title was deemed unsuitable to headline, presumably for 2 reasons. 1) They didn't have confidence in Benoit's ability to draw, and 2) They felt the result of Benoit winning was too heavily telegraphed. So, to inject some suspense and some star wattage, they added Shawn Michaels to the match: a top-level babyface who could conceivably be booked to win but who fans really didn't want to win. I could see Bryan/Orton/Batista paralleling this dynamic, with Orton as HHH, Bryan as Benoit and Batista in the Shawn Michaels role.

 

[Pink Ranger]

Before you know it, they'll try to make Batista look better by making a list of Divas that he's been involved with.

I don't think there's enough bandwidth on the Internet for that.

 

[strikezone89]

If the rumors that Vince is doing whatever it takes to keep Punk in WWE, what do you think needs to be done with the Mania card to appease Punks "change" he wants. I think Vince put himself in a tough spot, for 1. you can't reverse what you did at the Rumble as Batista may have been promised a Rumble win which could be why he came back. 2. If he grants Punks wish and does whatever Punk wants him to do, then it could make Vince & Co. look weak and other superstars may think that if you walk out and you're somewhat hot, you can get whatever you want.

Granted if this is a work or is turned into a work, it could be one of the greatest storylines in the history of the WWE.

 

[SpideyFan866]

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/448675-sting-signs-wwe-legends-deal

Rob Feinstein of RFVideo.com has posted the following on his Facebook page:

I was just informed Sting has signed a deal with WWE in the last 24 hours. I still think personally he will show up after Mania since it seems like Undertaker vs Brock is what they are aiming for. Reminds me when everyone thought Brock would debut in Miami but they waited for Raw.

This news comes about 24 hours after Anthony DiMoro of Sportsrant.com reported WWE and Sting reached some type of*an agreement, and you can check out that report at this link.

 

[Keyser Soze]

See, I can respect Punk walking out because he's just utterly demoralised. But if it turned out it was all a big bluff in order to get what he wanted from the booking, then I'd think he was going into business for himself and would feel that was a bit of a dick move.

 

[Hotwire]

MEANWHILE! on WWE.com:

Spoiler

You have to admit, the dude does have an amazing tailor when it came to his suits.