Endgame Thor/God of Thunder - Chris Hemsworth

[jaqua99]

Seeing it tonight. Ambivalent. I'm more excited for the Godzilla trailer than this movie.

Does Thor keep Mjolnir?

Just so I understand...

Thor's a joke.
Upsurped by Marvel
And captain America does a better job at being Thor than Thor? Lol

 

[Prettyricky]

I wouldn't say they turned thor into a joke per say.

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He still shines in the final battle with thanos as well as killing him at the beginning. IW was about elevating him as a hero and EG is about him dealing with his biggest failure. Given its a very comedic way

The biggest question is where do they take thor from here, continue with EG version or back to a hulking hero?

 

[jaqua99]

I wouldn't say they turned thor into a joke per say.

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He still shines in the final battle with thanos as well as killing him at the beginning. IW was about elevating him as a hero and EG is about him dealing with his biggest failure. Given its a very comedic way

The biggest question is where do they take thor from here, continue with EG version or back to a hulking hero?

Does he keep his two hammers?

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Does he keep his two hammers?

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No. Paradox issue... Which makes less sense given how they laid out their rules and how they resolved issues by the end... But that is a whole other can of worms.

 

[Fist of Khonshu]

I thought his portrayal in EG was

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hilarious and I loved it! But I certainly didn't want him to remain this way at all, and they forgot to use the gems to fix his belly, and his brain too apparently since he left to be just another Goofball of the Galaxy.

How the Mighty has fallen.

 

[Prettyricky]

Does he keep his two hammers?

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no like the other poster said

 

[RoastBeast]

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Point Break doing Endless Summer in Space....

I dunno if that's a good idea.

 

[JtheDreamer]

I'm not saying that Thor can't be comedic. I just think they went too far in EG.

I'll re-iterate what I said above: IW gave us our best portrayal of Thor in the MCU. It was full of plenty of humour but tempered with a seriousness that gave him just enough gravitas.

Have you ever heard of a happy medium?

They did go too far.

It worked for a good portion of the film, but when things got serious at the end I wasn't able to take him seriously. Not only that, but he wielded BOTH Stormbreaker and Mjolnir, yet could barely muster a legitimate attack on Thanos. Makes no sense given what we saw in IG with just the Stormbreaker alone.

 

[Fosterson]

They did go too far.

It worked for a good portion of the film, but when things got serious at the end I wasn't able to take him seriously. Not only that, but he wielded BOTH Stormbreaker and Mjolnir, yet could barely muster a legitimate attack on Thanos. Makes no sense given what we saw in IG with just the Stormbreaker alone.

I think that was meant to show just how much weaker he had become in his five years of eating and drinking to excess.

Prime Thor with Stormbreaker would stomp Gauntlet-less Thanos with relative ease IMO.

Also, I second Khonshu's sentiments about wishing

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they'd used the stones to reverse his fatness.

 

[BigThor]

While I was pissed-off before in regards to his power in the film, he actually doesn't seem as weak after pondering things....

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He tussles with Thanos three times: Thanos never overpowers him in any of these instances, rather he simply has better leverage and is probably the better fighter. Not only did he bring Thanos to his knees in one instance, but consider the part where Thanos has him cornered against a rock and is digging Stormbreaker into his chest: Thor is withstanding the full strength of an enraged Thanos with his hands only, all while being in the weaker position leverage-wise.

Thanos was throwing everybody around like they were ragdolls in this movie, Thor was withstanding this at the very least, not to mention that this Thor is clearly much weaker than he was previously. Captain Marvel, by comparison, was clearly using her full power to do more-or-less the same thing.

But Thor? It was all him, and he was a joke power-wise to his previous incarnations. IW Thor would have destroyed Thanos in this movie. The movie was still a mess, but at least I am less pissed-off now than I was before

YES bro, I noticed the same thing and when

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Thanos was trying to stab Thor with Stormbreaker Thor was only using ONE HAND to push back against Stormbreaker while Thanos was using two hands plus he had better leverage wow.

 

[wobbly]

For what its worth, my take on Endgame's Thor...

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This was a broken Man, and its not hard to see why. In a space of time that would seem so damn fast to a long lived god (would be like a couple of days to a mere mortal) he lost most everything he had ever loved. His Mother murdered, Father dies, Brother murdered, best friends murdered and Asgard lost. Near all these losses happening right in front of him. That's a lot to take on. Then he gets Thanos' parting shot at him before the snap which had tipped him near over the edge at this films start. He could have killed Thanos with that blow in IW, but he wanted to rub his victory over him in. So to his mind half of the universe lost their lives for that moment of selfish vengeance. When they realised Thanos had put an end to that original plan of taking his Gauntlet to undo it all, Thor killing Thanos then only served as a very bitter reminder of what he should have done in IW when he had that chance.

So I totally get why Thor is in that state in Endgame. Loss & guilt can do worse than that to the best of men.

Now I personally didn't have a problem with the humour they used with him in EG for the most part, as I think they balanced it well overall. Ie: When we first see him shirtless and portly its jokes at first then gets serious the moment Hulk mentions Thanos name, then there is his heart to heart with his mother where she can see his pain and imparts some wisdom on him. I do get why many feel they overdid it or it wasn't appropriate at times (when he is struggling to talk about the aether was a little bit too much) but for me it worked ok overall.

As for the final battle, I do wish he'd had Thanos in a bit more trouble when he was using both hammers, but lest we forget Thanos had already beaten Thor and laid the Hulk out with ease at the start of Infinity War. He aint no pushover when he can see an attack coming.

As for the future It seems almost certain Thor will be in the next Guardians film so interested to see where Gunn takes him after this, but now Thor is out of his guilt trip I would imagine we see him return more to form in future.

 

[Gold Samurai]

If you remember the ending. Cap also took the Mjolnir with him. So that was returned to "Dark World"

 

[redhawk23]

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I thought some of the fat jokes were overplayed to a uncomfortable degree but I appreciate that Thor stayed fat. Instead of repeating his usual arc of worthiness or what have you I appreciated his story of self acceptance in this.

Fat Thor is going to be a popular cosplay for years to come.

 

[Iceman]

I'm not saying that Thor can't be comedic. I just think they went too far in EG.

I'll re-iterate what I said above: IW gave us our best portrayal of Thor in the MCU. It was full of plenty of humour but tempered with a seriousness that gave him just enough gravitas.

Have you ever heard of a happy medium?

Ragnarok Thor was amazing and IW Thor even better. I hope we see a return to that asap,

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although a bunch of comedy is inevitable if he’s hanging around with the Guardians. I’d like to see them give Quill a load of stick whenever Thor performs power feats that Quill obviously couldn’t do.

 

[TheGuy]

I don't know if this has been said before that Endgame confirms the theories that Stormbreaker does not possess the spell that it needs its holder to be worthy, unlike Mjolnir. Thanos wielded it for a second during his solo fight with Thor.

 

[BigThor]

They did go too far.

It worked for a good portion of the film, but when things got serious at the end I wasn't able to take him seriously. Not only that, but he wielded BOTH Stormbreaker and Mjolnir, yet could barely muster a legitimate attack on Thanos. Makes no sense given what we saw in IG with just the Stormbreaker alone.

Technically Thor

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didn't really fight Thanos with Mjolnir and Stormbreaker at close range in the initial Big 3 vs Thanos fight. He only used the two hammers to charge Iron Man's plasma blaster and batted Mjolnir with Stormbreaker like a baseball which hit Iron Man because Thanos was using him as a shield (it one shot KO'd him). After Thanos charged Thanos and fought him at close range using only Stormbreaker. However when Thor fought Thanos while trying to keep him from the gauntlet Thor used both hammers and did much better even temporarily having the upper hand and overpowering Thanos bringing him to both knees.

 

[CaptainWagner]

I loved Thor for the most part.

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I just think he should have trimmed his beard at some point. He just looked so much like The Dude it kept taking me out. The real question, though, is will he be fully back in shape by GOTG3?

 

[Herolee10]

Just saw the film as well...

 

[Herolee10]

Well, now that I have seen the film I can honestly say that I have no desire to really see another Thor film, nor his he one of my top 5 favorite characters anymore.

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He was, for the most part, useless in the film. It was truly painful to see the character regressed into the comic relief of the film.

Honestly, I get him going through depression and letting himself go due the tremendous guilt that he felt. However, there is no real payoff kn his arc in this film. I could not take him seriously for even once during the entire time he was on film as fat Thor.

Furthermore, he served no real purpose in this film. Rocket was the one that had retrieved the reality stone from Jane. It seems like the only good/important thing that he did was bringing his old hammer back for Steve to use. He was not the one to bring back the snapped victims. Nor did he save anyone's lives in the final battle. He was utterly useless.

Also at the end of the film, rather than accepting responsibility, he decides to avoid it once more by leaving his people behind and travel with the Guardians.

I would have honestly prefered for him to die with his honor than to survive as a idiot/loser.

Overall, this film pretty much did to Thor on what TLJ did to Luke Skywalker imho.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Well, now that I have seen the film I can honestly say that I have no desire to really see another Thor film, nor his he one of my top 5 favorite characters anymore.

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He was, for the most part, useless in the film. It was truly painful to see the character regressed into the comic relief of the film.

Honestly, I get him going through depression and letting himself go due the tremendous guilt that he felt. However, there is no real payoff kn his arc in this film. I could not take him seriously for even once during the entire time he was on film as fat Thor.

Furthermore, he served no real purpose in this film. Rocket was the one that had retrieved the reality stone from Jane. It seems like the only good/important thing that he did was bringing his old hammer back for Steve to use. He was not the one to bring back the snapped victims. Nor did he save anyone's lives in the final battle. He was utterly useless.

Also at the end of the film, rather than accepting responsibility, he decides to avoid it once more by leaving his people behind and travel with the Guardians.

I would have honestly prefered for him to die with his honor than to survive as a idiot/loser.

Overall, this film pretty much did to Thor on what TLJ did to Luke Skywalker imho.

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I'm sorry that fictional characters have to actually have characterization and flaws instead of being giant action figures.


And this is from a guy that DID think they went to far with the humor with Thor.

 

[BigThor]

Well, now that I have seen the film I can honestly say that I have no desire to really see another Thor film, nor his he one of my top 5 favorite characters anymore.

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He was, for the most part, useless in the film. It was truly painful to see the character regressed into the comic relief of the film.

Honestly, I get him going through depression and letting himself go due the tremendous guilt that he felt. However, there is no real payoff kn his arc in this film. I could not take him seriously for even once during the entire time he was on film as fat Thor.

Furthermore, he served no real purpose in this film. Rocket was the one that had retrieved the reality stone from Jane. It seems like the only good/important thing that he did was bringing his old hammer back for Steve to use. He was not the one to bring back the snapped victims. Nor did he save anyone's lives in the final battle. He was utterly useless.

Also at the end of the film, rather than accepting responsibility, he decides to avoid it once more by leaving his people behind and travel with the Guardians.

I would have honestly prefered for him to die with his honor than to survive as a idiot/loser.

Overall, this film pretty much did to Thor on what TLJ did to Luke Skywalker imho.

If just one film out of seven total can make a character not be one of your favorites anymore were they really one of your favorites to begin with?

I think you're overreacting pretty hard bro and that's coming from ME of all people.

 

[Iceman]

Well, now that I have seen the film I can honestly say that I have no desire to really see another Thor film, nor his he one of my top 5 favorite characters anymore.

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He was, for the most part, useless in the film. It was truly painful to see the character regressed into the comic relief of the film.

Honestly, I get him going through depression and letting himself go due the tremendous guilt that he felt. However, there is no real payoff kn his arc in this film. I could not take him seriously for even once during the entire time he was on film as fat Thor.

Furthermore, he served no real purpose in this film. Rocket was the one that had retrieved the reality stone from Jane. It seems like the only good/important thing that he did was bringing his old hammer back for Steve to use. He was not the one to bring back the snapped victims. Nor did he save anyone's lives in the final battle. He was utterly useless.

Also at the end of the film, rather than accepting responsibility, he decides to avoid it once more by leaving his people behind and travel with the Guardians.

I would have honestly prefered for him to die with his honor than to survive as a idiot/loser.

Overall, this film pretty much did to Thor on what TLJ did to Luke Skywalker imho.

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His mother said (something like) we all fail at what we're supposed to be - sometimes we should be who we are. That's probably where he took the decision to go with the Guardians and leave his people in the charge of Valkyrie.

Btw what did you think of the rest of the film outside of Thor?

 

[Herolee10]

If just one film out of seven total can make a character not be one of your favorites anymore were they really one of your favorites to begin with?

I think you're overreacting pretty hard bro and that's coming from ME of all people.

Well to be honest, Thor had been a character that I had enjoyed seeing but wasn't really invested in prior to "Ragnarok".

It was only because of films like "Ragnarok" and "Infinity War" that really sold me on the character and how awesome he was/could be. But what I saw in "Endgame" felt more like a character assassination than anything else.

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I understand that there's a small chance that we will see him again in the future and that his story isn't over like Tony's and Steve's but this was freaking "Endgame". The culmination of 22 films/11 years worth of storytelling. Thor should have ended the film at his best before going off again on one of his crazy adventures.

The movie pretty much stripped him of MOST of the qualities that had made me into a big fan in the first place.

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His mother said (something like) we all fail at what we're supposed to be - sometimes we should be who we are. That's probably where he took the decision to go with the Guardians and leave his people in the charge of Valkyrie.

Btw what did you think of the rest of the film outside of Thor?

True...

{spoiler]However, again there was no real pay off to that message. I mean who is Thor then? Is he just an big buffoon who constantly fails in life?

Thor should have been given something important to do that would have made up for his failure to kill Thanos and avenge his people.

I just don't get what Thor's arc was supposed to be in this film. Nor did I see him as important to the story. You could have him replaced by another character and it still wouldn't have made a big difference. [/spoiler]

Now in regards to the film itself, while I did have other issues, I overall enjoyed most of it. For better or for worse, it was a fitting conclusion for several characters and story lines. I don't think I will be able to see it again simply because of how long it is and how busy I normally am from work. I might see it again once it's available for digital release.

 

[BigThor]

Well to be honest, Thor had been a character that I had enjoyed seeing but wasn't really invested in prior to "Ragnarok".

It was only because of films like "Ragnarok" and "Infinity War" that really sold me on the character and how awesome he was/could be. But what I saw in "Endgame" felt more like a character assassination than anything else.

Well then that sounds like something you should hold against the writers, directors, and even Hemsworth himself rather than the actual character of Thor.

 

[tek]

loved what that they did with Thor. added more to his journey, could really feel the depth of his hurt and liked the added comedic angle. the fact that it has created some polarity on his use in this film is genius. he is fast becoming the character that may get the most longevity out of this marvel universe. He has places to go with his character, not only a new path, but different looks. just brillant . even if you did not enjoy this characterisation in this film, it was definitely memorable and his character is going to outlast the rest if Marvel are smart. use Hemsworth up in this experimental fashion. great stuff and dont worry about the whingers on this one. they will be back because they are so upset which is so clever. sucked them right in!