Endgame Thor/God of Thunder - Chris Hemsworth

[MadVillainy]

I was kinda...shaky on Thor in this. I think they kinda whiffed with his character.
I don't really care about power levels much but they didn't do that well with him as a character.

 

[warhorse78]

Well at this point I don't even know what the hell to believe going into this. Some are saying he's badass, even if remarkably different, and others say otherwise. Some are also saying Captain Marvel is not overpowered at all, while others are saying the opposite (which frankly is BS if true. If you're going to nerf Thor, you can damn-well nerf her too).

Power levels are a perceptive thing though: so many have claimed that Wanda and Strange are more powerful than Thor in IW, but I've never seen it, so I guess we'll see

I pretty much never post in forums anymore, but I'm just really nervous that they're going to do Thor dirty while making Captain Marvel the MVP. Well at least if they drop the ball with Thor, I still have Godzilla: King of the Monsters :/

I'm not even a fan of Thor, but Infinity War made me love him, and then End Game comes along, and completely destroys the character into nothing but a bumbling comedy side kick. I walked away from this movie so disappointed and sometimes outright PO. This wasn't a love letter to the fans who have been here from the beginning. This was a big finger to us.

 

[Mr. Peanut]

Well at this point I don't even know what the hell to believe going into this. Some are saying he's badass, even if remarkably different, and others say otherwise. Some are also saying Captain Marvel is not overpowered at all, while others are saying the opposite (which frankly is BS if true. If you're going to nerf Thor, you can damn-well nerf her too).

Power levels are a perceptive thing though: so many have claimed that Wanda and Strange are more powerful than Thor in IW, but I've never seen it, so I guess we'll see

I pretty much never post in forums anymore, but I'm just really nervous that they're going to do Thor dirty while making Captain Marvel the MVP. Well at least if they drop the ball with Thor, I still have Godzilla: King of the Monsters :/

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Captain Marvel was able to one-shot Thanos's warship that was previously annihilating everyone else combined. She then goes toe to toe with Infinity Gauntlet Thanos and is unphased when he headbutts her. He only manages to keep from getting his ass whooped by blasting her away a moment before she rips the gauntlet off.

Meanwhile Thor was too fat and weak to even be able to hold his own against no-guantlet Thanos. I'm not even sure he can fly in his current state. Cap actually becomes more powerful than Thor and does better against Thanos. Which is great for Cap, I loved that scene. As a fan of Cap, Iron Man, Hulk, and Thor, this movie gave me such mixed sensations. The former two got such perfect showings. But the latter two...

 

[MahvelBaby!]

I unabashedly loved Thor in this movie. It took me so off guard at first but by the scene with

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his mom

I was so on board

 

[THORin]

I'm not sure yet how I feel about Thor here. I was glad to see

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him with all the refugees gathered together in Norway. Seeing Valkyrie and Korg again was great. And Thor did get room to grow, which I liked, as he realized that he didn't need to be King of Asgard anymore. The scene with his mother was beautiful. And I suppose I'm really excited to see more of him going forward, with the Guardians - (unabashedly shipping Thor and Star-Lord, btw).

 

[MahvelBaby!]

If you all think for a second Taika Waititi isn't going to have a blast with

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Fat Thor

You don't know Taika lmao....I bet it was his idea even!

 

[jolldan]

I unabashedly loved Thor in this movie. It took me so off guard at first but by the scene with

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his mom

I was so on board

Yeah don't know if it was just me but I got the feeling his mum knew that he was going to try and save her.

 

[HammerDown]

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Captain Marvel was able to one-shot Thanos's warship that was previously annihilating everyone else combined. She then goes toe to toe with Infinity Gauntlet Thanos and is unphased when he headbutts her. He only manages to keep from getting his ass whooped by blasting her away a moment before she rips the gauntlet off.

Meanwhile Thor was too fat and weak to even be able to hold his own against no-guantlet Thanos. I'm not even sure he can fly in his current state. Cap actually becomes more powerful than Thor and does better against Thanos. Which is great for Cap, I loved that scene. As a fan of Cap, Iron Man, Hulk, and Thor, this movie gave me such mixed sensations. The former two got such perfect showings. But the latter two...

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The thing CM did with Thanos ship is basically what Thor did in IW against those giant outrider drop ships. While flying with Stormbreaker in hand he went through them like butter.

She went toe to toe with IG Thanos but i'm don't think he used the IG on her. So if you are wearing the IG but not using it's basically just a glove. Also i got the feeling that CM was actually drawing power while she was trying to take it away from Thanos, hence making him more powerful and not being phased.

It's true that Thor was out of shape and we didn't see much of what he can really do when at 100%. "Cap comes more powerful than Thor"... I'm sorry but that's just crazy talk. Cap was more agile and fast and that make a difference but he didn't last long at all even with the vibranium shield and Mjolnir.

 

[Iceman]

I definitely think Captain Marvel is overpowered which will make giving her real conflict challenging unless they nerf her powers again like her first movie.

But glowing eyes Thor is always awesome.

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It is certainly going to be challenging having characters who can take out spacecraft unarmed in a matter of seconds on the same team as guys who are good with martial arts/spears/handguns.

 

[HammerDown]

I agree. From Ragnarok we got this amazing new version of Thor, we got the begining of the Hulk's transformation, we got the badass Valkyrie, Korg...

Also Ragnarok, IW and AEG are basically and without a shadow of a doubt another Thor trilogy.
And what an awesome trilogy it is.

 

[HammerDown]

My hot take... Thor's great trilogy.

 

[ironman_rick]

Don't worry Waititi will make Thor cool again. The next big baddie for MCU is gonna be someone from the cosmic side and i would not be surprised if Thor becomes the most popular superhero in the 5th avengers movie (or maybe a close 2nd to spidey).

 

[WhoMani]

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As much I enjoyed Thor's ending in Endgame, I can't see him travelling with the Guardians for too long and I think Thor will only have a cameo appearance in Guardians 3. But I'm glad the movie didn't kill off Thor and left him open for future MCU appearances

 

[Iceman]

I hope Thor gets to appear in a bunch more MCU films.

 

[HammerDown]

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Once again saw that scene of Thor powering up, getting his armour and summoning Mjolnir and Stormbreaker.

Undoubtably one of the best MCU Thor moments ever. Top 3 for sure.
Praise the lord that was so cool. Legendary!

 

[Mr. Peanut]

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The thing CM did with Thanos ship is basically what Thor did in IW against those giant outrider drop ships. While flying with Stormbreaker in hand he went through them like butter.

She went toe to toe with IG Thanos but i'm don't think he used the IG on her. So if you are wearing the IG but not using it's basically just a glove. Also i got the feeling that CM was actually drawing power while she was trying to take it away from Thanos, hence making him more powerful and not being phased.

It's true that Thor was out of shape and we didn't see much of what he can really do when at 100%. "Cap comes more powerful than Thor"... I'm sorry but that's just crazy talk. Cap was more agile and fast and that make a difference but he didn't last long at all even with the vibranium shield and Mjolnir.

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Thor showing up in IW didn't have any effect on the outcome of the battle (they lost, regardless). CM showing up in EG was crucial to the outcome (without Captain Marvel, the warship would kill everyone). And that's ignoring the fact that Thor's arrival in Wakanda with Stormbeaker was something that the movie had been building up to, rather than something that came out of nowhere. If EG had given CM a plotline where she goes through a trial in order to aquire the power necessary to defeat Thanos, that would have been a much better use of her character.

Thanos's physical attacks had no affect on CM. Basically, Thor, Hulk, and Thanos could wail on Captain Marvel's face with punches all day and it wouldn't bother her. That's how far above them she is. Thanos only manages to blast Captain Marvel away by using the power stone.

Cap had a much more impressive showing than Thor, from what I remember, especially when it came to hurling lightning. Either way, Thor was not above Cap the way he should've been. Cap had the powers of pre-Ragnarok Thor, which is much less than IW Stormbreaker Thor. Fat Thor had to be significantly weaker than IW Stormbreaker Thor in order to be struggling so much against Thanos to the point where he couldn't even win a two-v-one against him. Essentially he'd lost everything he'd gained in the past two movies.

 

[harlequinade]

Thor was awesome and got the best reactions from the crowd, Hemsworth acting was again amazing - the way he goes from comedy to drama so effortlessly. LOVED all his scenes

 

[heatvision38]

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Well, I can only speak for myself and my wife. We went into this film as absolute Thor fans. We loved Ragnarok and IW and what the respective directors have done with him. I could go on about why we believe that his character development is a set back, not believable (Valkyrie drank for decades on Sakaar = not fat; Caps metabolism is too active preventing him to get drunk, yet Thor can't handle human beer) and not the logical route to go (Clint lost more, didn't get drunk or fat; Thor matured and left the side of him that makes him susceptible to the behavior in AEG behind in Ragnarok). And it ALL feels like a plot device! They could have chosen to make him even stronger or simply let him mope the floor with minions, yet they took the bait and thought "Man, others need to shine now, so let's make him fat and drunk, so we have an excuse why he won't one shot the army".

The Thor you get in this movie will...

...make a joke in nearly every scene he is in ("comic relief")
...have a body that does not look anything like he is a god or ever has been
...yell at little kids that beat him in Fortnite
...Get his ass handed to him by Thanos, before....the human, Captain America, saves him from death
...Share Stormbreaker with Caps (How in thunder god's name can Steve also wield Stormbreaker?!)

To sum it up: In the final fight Caps is the better Thor, period. He summons lightning, throws bad ass combos at Thanos and simply steals the show. I joked with my wife and said that this movie could have been named "Captain America: Endgame". That is how it felt.

Anybody agree?

I agree with some of this, too.

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I didn't mind some of the humor stuff during the film with Thor b/c Hemsworth has the ability to crack me up while also breaking my heart. But I do wish he had something more to do in the final battle, something that gave him a moment just as each of the OG Avengers had. I am not saying he should have outshone Tony or Cap, but something he can call his own. Once Bulk mentions Thanos to Thor in New Asgard and you see Thor get angry, I thought, "Okay, now we are going to see a determined Thor coming soon. But that never really happened. I still loved some of those scenes, especially with his mother. But I wish they found a way to cap it off (no pun intended) in the climax.

As for Valkyrie, it's easy to assume that, while she drank a lot, she was still reasonably active as she still worked for the Grandmaster, whereas Thor just sat around the whole time playing video games. Also, we can imagine that Thor wasn't JUST drinking regular beer, but that they were able add Asgardian ingredients in there. At least that's how I made it all make sense to me, so it works. But yeah, it would have made a big difference to see Thor get at least one moment. Captain Marvel taking out the ship turned the tide. Maybe Thor could have helped with that, just something, otherwise, everything he did wound up being rebuffed by Thanos and just made him fodder.

 

[HammerDown]

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Thor showing up in IW didn't have any effect on the outcome of the battle (they lost, regardless). CM showing up in EG was crucial to the outcome (without Captain Marvel, the warship would kill everyone). And that's ignoring the fact that Thor's arrival in Wakanda with Stormbeaker was something that the movie had been building up to, rather than something that came out of nowhere. If EG had given CM a plotline where she goes through a trial in order to aquire the power necessary to defeat Thanos, that would have been a much better use of her character.

Thanos's physical attacks had no affect on CM. Basically, Thor, Hulk, and Thanos could wail on Captain Marvel's face with punches all day and it wouldn't bother her. That's how far above them she is. Thanos only manages to blast Captain Marvel away by using the power stone.

Cap had a much more impressive showing than Thor, from what I remember, especially when it came to hurling lightning. Either way, Thor was not above Cap the way he should've been. Cap had the powers of pre-Ragnarok Thor, which is much less than IW Stormbreaker Thor. Fat Thor had to be significantly weaker than IW Stormbreaker Thor in order to be struggling so much against Thanos to the point where he couldn't even win a two-v-one against him. Essentially he'd lost everything he'd gained in the past two movies.

So much of what you're saying doesn't even make sense.

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What are you even talking about? Thor turned the tide of the battle. If it wasn't for him, Cap, War Machine, Black Widow... wouldn't even be alive. CM arrival is crucial and Thor's isn't? Come on now. Thor arrival in Wakanda did come ou of nowhere hence the impact it had on the general audience.

Thanos just head butted her once. Relax. He could have done so much more.

Comparing Captain America with Thor doesn't make any sense. Just because he has wielded Mjolnir doesn't put him on the same level of even Pre-Ragnarok Thor. Let us not kid ourselves here. Out of shape Thor was definitely weaker because of his physical and mental condition. The only thing Thor lost was his prime condition, the rest he clearly maintained.

 

[heatvision38]

I liked Thor in this but his IWs self was better. I understand the direction he went though, makes sense.

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When IWs started he just had a giant battle against Hela. He lost his eye, home, his dad. He saved what was left of his people and planned on having some time of piece before another battle. Thanos had other plans Thor then loses half of his people, sees Loki and Heimdall killed right in front of him. He went into all or nothing mode he damn near killed himself for Stormbreaker and still fails to secure the kill. He blames himself for the snap. Some time goes by so they believe they have a slight chance, once Thanos tells them what he did it sinks in that everything was truly gone and he failed. He blamed himself and wanted no more hope.

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That's why I think it's important to make a distinction between this aspect of the movie for Thor (that is, his journey) and how he was used in the final battle. I liked much of what they did with Thor character-wise, but I was disappointed that by the end, he didn't really have any standout sequences in the battle, making up for how far he had fallen in the prior 5 years. Anytime it seemed like he would, it didn't really go anywhere. This is the last of this stage of movies, so it would have been nice to see Thor do something special, even if it was helping Captain Marvel take down Thanos' ship, just something standout.

 

[HammerDown]

Thor was awesome and got the best reactions from the crowd, Hemsworth acting was again amazing - the way he goes from comedy to drama so effortlessly. LOVED all his scenes

Glad you enjoyed his part. Thor's stuff is always a highlight for me.

 

[heatvision38]

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Thor showing up in IW didn't have any effect on the outcome of the battle (they lost, regardless). CM showing up in EG was crucial to the outcome (without Captain Marvel, the warship would kill everyone). And that's ignoring the fact that Thor's arrival in Wakanda with Stormbeaker was something that the movie had been building up to, rather than something that came out of nowhere. If EG had given CM a plotline where she goes through a trial in order to aquire the power necessary to defeat Thanos, that would have been a much better use of her character.

Thanos's physical attacks had no affect on CM. Basically, Thor, Hulk, and Thanos could wail on Captain Marvel's face with punches all day and it wouldn't bother her. That's how far above them she is. Thanos only manages to blast Captain Marvel away by using the power stone.

Cap had a much more impressive showing than Thor, from what I remember, especially when it came to hurling lightning. Either way, Thor was not above Cap the way he should've been. Cap had the powers of pre-Ragnarok Thor, which is much less than IW Stormbreaker Thor. Fat Thor had to be significantly weaker than IW Stormbreaker Thor in order to be struggling so much against Thanos to the point where he couldn't even win a two-v-one against him. Essentially he'd lost everything he'd gained in the past two movies.

I would say that Thor showing up just in time in IW to save the lives of Cap and the rest was crucial. Sure, they still lost to Thanos, but it's similar to ROTK. If Aragorn doesn't show up when he does, there would have been nobody left to march the gates of Mordor and cause Sauron to empty his lands, allowing Frodo and Sam passage to Mt Doom. With IW, if Cap, Rhodey, Rocket, Banner, and the other non-snappees got killed (which it looked like would happen had Thor not shown up), then there is no EG.

 

[harlequinade]

Glad you enjoyed his part. Thor's stuff is always a highlight for me.

I love Chris and I wish he had the better luck outside of MCU. He is so funny!

 

[HammerDown]

I would say that Thor showing up just in time in IW to save the lives of Cap and the rest was crucial. Sure, they still lost to Thanos, but it's similar to ROTK. If Aragorn doesn't show up when he does, there would have been nobody left to march the gates of Mordor and cause Sauron to empty his lands, allowing Frodo and Sam passage to Mt Doom. With IW, if Cap, Rhodey, Rocket, Banner, and the other non-snappees got killed (which it looked like would happen had Thor not shown up), then there is no EG.

 

[HammerDown]