Endgame Thor/God of Thunder - Chris Hemsworth

[harlequinade]

It's like some fans wanted that thunder

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not just to braid his beard but also slim him down and make him defeat Thanos

. Come on people.

 

[Bren]

I absolutely loved how

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Frigga almost immediately knew Thor was from the future. And the way she said it, I didn't even question it - she's just crazy intuitive and with her magic understands how 'easily' possible it is.

Was so cool.

 

[harlequinade]

I LOVED that it was

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her he met and not Odin or Loki. Frigga was always such a cool character, wise, beautiful and strong and it was wonderful they gave that important moment to her and not someone else

 

[Spider-Fan]

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What I loved about the Thor scene with Frigga is that we finally got to see them have meaningful dialogue together. We understood Frigga's relationship with Loki very well based on prior Thor films, but the screen time shared with Thor and Frigga was very minimal. The best moment that gave us context to their relationship prior to this movie was TDW when Loki and Thor were talking to each other about her. But here, we finally saw their dynamic on screen, and the scene is wonderful. One of my favorites in the movie.

 

[harlequinade]

Also

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Rene Russo

is always a welcome sight

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

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My interpretation of the Russo’s words is that Thor’s journey of redemption was jump started by Frigga’s pep talk.

But Thor isn’t just miraculously be in his prime in the beginning of GOTG3 which makes sense. Otherwise it would cheapen what he had to go through in AEG.

Thor’s journey of self repare will take its time. He hit the biggest low in his long spanning life, the healing process will take its time and I’m sure he will have a great redemption in the end.

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I really hope this is true but Thor's physical transformation better happen pretty early on. I get that this is character development but ultimately this is not who Thor is. Yes we've seen Thor at his lowest but we're all waiting for him to get his crap together. He's a warrior for crying out loud. He's been a warrior for over a thousand years. And most importantly, Thor never surrenders. He certainly would never surrender to being out of shape huffing and puffing trying to keep up with everyone else for the rest of his millennia of existence. That is not Thor.

Some of us have been fans of the character for decades and while I understand they need to take certain creative liberties they cannot just change his entire essence. And frankly I think Marvel has played fast and loose with Thor because we Thor fans have been so very forgiving. We had to deal with him getting upstaged by Loki in his first solo sequel and then one of his best scenes from Age of Ultron was completely cut from the movie in favor of Hawkeye's scenes. But we hung in there.

Waititi finally gave us the Thor we've been waiting for but the pendulum swung a little too hard to the humor side and they destroyed his entire world and even cut his freaking hair off. Infinity War brought Thor to exactly where he needed to be FINALLY after SIX film appearances and then the rug was proverbially pulled out from under our feet with Endgame.

Now all the Cap fans and Iron Man fans have this wonderfully happy feeling of closure with this 22 film grand finale but for Thor fans we need to wait yet again until 2021 to *hopefully* see him handled right.

Don't get me wrong - I love this movie. But that doesn't mean I don't wish Thor was handled a little better.

And I can't even imagine the outrage if this creative decision was made with other characters.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

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What I loved about the Thor scene with Frigga is that we finally got to see them have meaningful dialogue together. We understood Frigga's relationship with Loki very well based on prior Thor films, but the screen time shared with Thor and Frigga was very minimal. The best moment that gave us context to their relationship prior to this movie was TDW when Loki and Thor were talking to each other about her. But here, we finally saw their dynamic on screen, and the scene is wonderful. One of my favorites in the movie.

Agree 100%

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It was refreshing to me to see Thor get same of the same love that Frigga was showing to Loki and the whole scene was executed to perfection.

One of my biggest complaints from the first two films was not enough time spent on the character moments between Thor and his family - especially Frigga. (Part of the problem is that they were too short unlike the other hero's solo films.) We had some shining moments like Thor/Loki in Svartalfheim in the Dark World but a little more of that kind of stuff I think would've made a big difference.

One of my favorite scenes in Ragnarok is Thor's conversation with Loki in the elevator before "Get Help". Also Thor's story about Loki turning into a snake. The convo between Rocket and Thor in Infinity War and now Frigga's pep talk. I mean that's the stuff that gives these characters real depth. Glad to see they figured that part out.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Agree 100%

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It was refreshing to me to see Thor get same of the same love that Frigga was showing to Loki and the whole scene was executed to perfection.

One of my biggest complaints from the first two films was not enough time spent on the character moments between Thor and his family - especially Frigga. (Part of the problem is that they were too short unlike the other hero's solo films.) We had some shining moments like Thor/Loki in Svartalfheim in the Dark World but a little more of that kind of stuff I think would've made a big difference.

One of my favorite scenes in Ragnarok is Thor's conversation with Loki in the elevator before "Get Help". Also Thor's story about Loki turning into a snake. The convo between Rocket and Thor in Infinity War and now Frigga's pep talk. I mean that's the stuff that gives these characters real depth. Glad to see they figured that part out.

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Agreed. They did a lot with Thor's relationship to Odin and to Loki, but poor Frigga was left only for Loki scenes pretty much. I liked Frigga overall in TDW but definitely the 1st Thor movie could have used more Frigga.

 

[HammerDown]

Even though i understand what they did with Thor in AEG i also don't want him to stay like that for too long.

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The Russos expertly used Thor in IW after his rebirth in Ragnarok... They gave him the spotlight, IW was basically all about Thor and Thanos storylines clashing together... Also IW worked so well for the character because of the groundwork laid out before.

By the end of IW, Thor was undoubtably and more than ever a one man army. A basically indestructible God of Thunder with a weapon capable of insane attacking feats. At that point he was The Man, head and shoulders above anyone else... He was already on the verge of becoming overpowered and just another ex machina battering ram.

AEG begun with Thor in his prime but quickly downgraded him because of the simple fact the he was so much more powerful than anyone else. They needed to give him a flaw in order to give the opportunity for others to shine but also set his own future in the universe since he wasn't going anywhere. This flaw not only gives the character even more depth but also bumps him down the scale a bit in order to accommodate the following chapters in his story, by giving the character something to strive for, something to overcome... And not only show how insanely powerful he can be and put him into a corner.

 

[Jordanstine]

Yeah, I was okay with

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Fat Thor

to a certain extent... but the longer it went, it became more of a running side-joke throughout the whole film.

I was hoping they would've added a scene something like...

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while the Avengers were in HQ thinking up their plans to retrieve the stones, they would have scenes showing Thor working out intensely, trying to get back in shape. Him just doing simple crunches with lightning around him since he's the god of thunder after all to help burn the fat faster, would've been something to behold.

Or they could've shown him...

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outdoors hanging below Stormbreaker in the air doing intense curl ups holding a car with his feet, or even Professor Hulk while he was deep in thought coming with a plan, would've made for some good laughs too. Just something to show he was working on getting back in shape.

 

[HammerDown]

Joe Russo talking about what Chris Hemsworth has accomplished portraying Thor.
10:18 of the video. Well worth the time. Even the writers and Kevin Feige acknowledge it.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

Joe Russo talking about what Chris Hemsworth has accomplished portraying Thor.
10:18 of the video. Well worth the time. Even the writers and Kevin Feige acknowledge it.

Wow that was great. So happy to see Hemsworth finally getting some recognition.

All those years where Hiddleston got all the praise and people said Hemsworth wasn't a good actor irked the heck out of me. Before anyone even knew who he was, the best and most emotional scene in the critically acclaimed Star Trek reboot was when Hemsworth played Kirk's dad on the Enterprise and it wasn't more than 10 minutes I think. He had everyone in tears.

I mean Hiddleston is awesome don't get me wrong but Branagh delivered a 1-2 knockout punch with his casting of BOTH of these (at the time) unknowns. So many have contributed to making the MCU what it is today.

 

[First Avenger]

I don't care what people say, Thor/Hemsworth ended up being the best character in the saga, and yes I AM counting Thor 1 and 2.

 

[Darkprime]

Apparently Hemsworth's contract extension back in 2017 was for more than just Avengers 3/4 but the next slate of films as well.

Future MCU Films: 'Guardians of the Galaxy vol. 3' Expected to Shoot Next Year; More 'Thor' On the Way

 

[Kane52630]

 

[Herolee10]

Gotta admit, the hair and beard aren't as bad as I initially thought.

But that damn beer belly....ugh.

Well that and it doesn't also help the fact that the shot above....

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is really the ONLY cool thing that Thor ever does in the film post the 5 year time skip. That is literally his one good moment in the film visual wise. But aside form that, he really doesn't contribute anything to the plot.

 

[Bren]

The beard looks awesome. Hair is just okay imo.
Given what happened in the film,

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the weight is fine. In that scene, it's not about his weight anymore.

 

[Herolee10]

The beard looks awesome. Hair is just okay imo.
Given what happened in the film,

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the weight is fine. In that scene, it's not about his weight anymore.

Well it's definitely not about his

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power either. I still can't believe that Thor wielding both of his signature weapons could not inflict major damages to Thanos on his own, especially when the latter wasn't even wielding the IG anymore.

 

[Bren]

Yup.
Didn't need him to be the MVP necessarily, but certainly didn't

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want him to be basically useless.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Saw it again today and...

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Thor is on the front lines against Thanos probably more than any other character including Cap and Iron Man.

So... Useless? No. Where is this coming from that fans think Thor has always been this Thanos trump card? Outside of his "Warrior Madness/Power Stone" story he's never been one to be presented the way MCU fans disappointed in the handling of Thor in AEG seem to think he has in the comics.




The one clear cut victory Thor had one on one that I can remember was a fight in which Thor used weapons given to him by his father that included a portion of the Odinforce in them and like two of the strength enhancing belts from the mythos. And even then... That got retconned as it being one of Thanos' renegade duplicates.

What Thor did in the final fight, which was actually a lot of face to face combat with Thanos despite what it's being characterized as, actually is in line with the majority of what Thor's fights againd The Mad Titan have been like in the source material for decades.

 

[harlequinade]

So glad to read Hemsworth's contract is signed :P MORE!!!! ANOTHER!!!

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Concerning Hemsworth and Marvel Studios...

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As is apparent I far from think this movie "ruined" Thor as the hyperbolically dramatic among us like to throw around for whatever reason... But I will count myself among those that think that they allowed themselves to lean into the humor to the point, similar to Ragnarok, where the actual drama inherent in the character and situation simply failed to register with majority of the audience and is having a negative impact on the perception of fans toward the character. So I am happy that Hemsworth will be staying on as Thor... But that we may get two more outings of Thor at least, A GOTG film and a solo Thor movie, where because they were financially rewarded by the fans and everyone loves AEG, that they will just do more of the same. IW Thor was what I hoped they would go for. Funny at times but ultimately a serious as a heart attack cosmic god warrior. With Gunn being the one that will handle the character next, whatever he may look like (I'm sure he'll get in shape for those worried about it) ultimately I have no confidence that Gunn will play Thor for laughs again. And then the solo will just rerun that material again going back to Ragnarok where all the power ups in the world can't conceal that they seem to just be happy making Thor a character, skinny fat, pumped, as a figure of comedy.

 

[Cyrille86]

Saw it again today and...

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Thor is on the front lines against Thanos probably more than any other character including Cap and Iron Man.

So... Useless? No. Where is this coming from that fans think Thor has always been this Thanos trump card? Outside of his "Warrior Madness/Power Stone" story he's never been one to be presented the way MCU fans disappointed in the handling of Thor in AEG seem to think he has in the comics.




The one clear cut victory Thor had one on one that I can remember was a fight in which Thor used weapons given to him by his father that included a portion of the Odinforce in them and like two of the strength enhancing belts from the mythos. And even then... That got retconned as it being one of Thanos' renegade duplicates.

What Thor did in the final fight, which was actually a lot of face to face combat with Thanos despite what it's being characterized as, actually is in line with the majority of what Thor's fights againd The Mad Titan have been like in the source material for decades.

Thing is

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we cannot, on the one hand, say it is the MCU, so comics do not matter and then, on the other hand, use comics to make a point. I do not think anyone or at least not me has a problem with Thor NOT manhandling Thanos, it is the comparison with Caps and Marvel that renders it hard to watch for me. Caps uses combos on Thanos with Mjolnir like it is second nature to him, and in doing so outshines Thor by far. Marvel gets a headbutt and acts as nothing happened. Ragnarok established Thor is stronger than Odin. Odin was old and even chunkier...Hence, Thor being fat is not prime Thor, but he still should have been much stronger. Obviously, the Russos were able to provide SW, Marvel, AND Caps with badass MVP moments, they should have done so for Thor as well. Not doing it because "Oh well, he's done it in IW" is not an excuse, imho.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Thing is

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we cannot, on the one hand, say it is the MCU, so comics do not matter and then, on the other hand, use comics to make a point. I do not think anyone or at least not me has a problem with Thor NOT manhandling Thanos, it is the comparison with Caps and Marvel that renders it hard to watch for me. Caps uses combos on Thanos with Mjolnir like it is second nature to him, and in doing so outshines Thor by far. Marvel gets a headbutt and acts as nothing happened. Ragnarok established Thor is stronger than Odin. Odin was old and even chunkier...Hence, Thor being fat is not prime Thor, but he still should have been much stronger. Obviously, the Russos were able to provide SW, Marvel, AND Caps with badass MVP moments, they should have done so for Thor as well. Not doing it because "Oh well, he's done it in IW" is not an excuse, imho.

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Eh... People keep pointing to the Cap lifting Mjolnir scene and his attack on Thanos as SOOOOOO much better than anything Thor did against the villain and as some kind of sleight to Thor (the sleight was deciding way back in Ragnarok that Thor should be used for comedy above most other considerations towards the audience reaction to him and that fans would be placated by the superficial power displays, cuz... Fanboys Gotta Fanboy.... but I digress...) and yet in counting up the time of that sequence from the moment Cap picks up Mjolnir to the the moment Thanos slaps him to the ground after disarming him of Mjolnir, giving one arm a compound fracture, wounding Steve in the leg and oh yeah, shredding the shield by over 3/4's worth (And THAT'S what happened if you were paying attention... So tell me again how much more effective and amazing Steve was? Oh that's right... He didn't end the threat of the bad guy either... ) it comes to a whopping 2 minutes and 31 seconds. And that's about as accurate as I can get. And he was only mildly staggering Thanos for about half that time, if that, before the rest of the sequence is him receiving a beatdown.

That's what the complaints of this issue come down to... 2 minutes and 31 seconds of screen time. Half of which Cap gets beaten like a government mule and has his iconic weapon of choice broken and battered before our eyes.

 

[ironman_rick]

Now that i have time to digest endgame......i don't think Thor drew the short straw at all especially after Ragnarok. Thor has had the most pop moments from audience than any other character when you look at events after Ragnarok. His "thoring up" after that "what are you the god of" is awesome.

The reception he gets when he came down to wakanda in IW was absolutely the loudest i have heard. His throwing the stormbreaker at Thanos and then standing next to him is 2nd to the above imo. Just look at all those "top Superhero enterance moments" in youtube and Thor absolutely dominates almost all those videos.

Yeah.....he does not have those moments in Endgame.....but when you look at these last 2 avenger movies, he probably had the best audience moments (even more than ironman and cap).

I also don't think Thor and Hemsworth are done with MCU at all. His pairing with GOTG is marvel's way of ensuring that 3rd guardians movie gets to a billion.

Then, there is a small issue of a 4th Thor movie witthWaititi (surely) returning rite ?

So in a nutshell.....Thor's future is brighter than Ironman and Cap in MCU.