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TIH Sequel changes?

HS is a ghost town. :csad:

I hope I'm right too. That is my point. we don't know anything about the deal os we're just speculating at this point and I'm playing the Devils advocate :woot:. If you think about it "Over 5,000 characters" isn't something to sneeze at. I don't see Marvel Comic's becomming Disney Comic's anytime soon. I would think the same with the movies. When heads start to roll at Marvel, then be afraid. Be very afraid.

sorry to hear that.

dont Marvel hold some knida press conference to talk about thier movies and stuff?... is that along way away or did we just pass it?
 
If you're going to say that then I can say that 2003 cost TIH $ as well.

yeah, agreed, If Marvel had done the right thing and moved TIH for 09, and promoted it well, even with Ang's Hulk, TIH would have done better. But without Ang's Hulk, TIH would have ended up around 190 or 200mill IMO.
 
Yeah, I remember Ang's movie getting leaked. But I distinctly remember someone talking about the illegal viewings of TIH.
but the thing is, TIH viewings started after the movie was released, Ang's Hulk get leaked BEFORE it was release anywhere. I read somehwere that TIH was like the 2nd or 3rd most downloaded movie last year behind TDK, not bad :cwink:
 
yeah, agreed, If Marvel had done the right thing and moved TIH for 09, and promoted it well, even with Ang's Hulk, TIH would have done better. But without Ang's Hulk, TIH would have ended up around 190 or 200mill IMO.

That's why I always liked you Sava, you have common sense. 2003 wasn't a crap movie. Just a crap movie for The Hulk.

I'm sure that things will get fleshed over the nest year or so and we'll have some idea what to expect. Generally, when a company buys another they don't come in and start choping heads from the get go. This could be a very good thing for Marvel. It could be a very bad thing for some of the higher ups. :shock
 
That's why I always liked you Sava, you have common sense. 2003 wasn't a crap movie. Just a crap movie for The Hulk.
you are too kind CJ ;)


I'm sure that things will get fleshed over the nest year or so and we'll have some idea what to expect. Generally, when a company buys another they don't come in and start choping heads from the get go. This could be a very good thing for Marvel. It could be a very bad thing for some of the higher ups. :shock
yeah but i'm not sure even the guys at Marvel now would make a TIH movie, why would they?... the last one didnt make alot. I think Disney might want to relaunch TIH in a few years tiume, which isnt a bad thing IMO. Doubt Norton will want to come back
 
I think the next Hulk movie following an appearance in Avengers as far as a theatrical motion picture will be an animated Defenders movie. I think that can work well with Pixar once they take back Namor and Silver Surfer. Other than that, all I am expecting until then are cameos and nods.
 
I read somehwere that TIH was like the 2nd or 3rd most downloaded movie last year behind TDK, not bad :cwink:
It's still pretty popular. More than TDK, actually...



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http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/08/31...ns-will-pixar-develop-marvel-superhero-films/

If it ain’t broke…” All of the creative control will remain in the hands of the people who know the Marvel Universe best: the people at Marvel.

It is unclear what Marvel’s deal looks like with Universal Studios, but it’s hard to imagine that Disney isn’t interested in the theme park rights to the Marvel Universe

:yay:

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Nice post Rac. TIH is pretty damn popular now isn't he.
 
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I love how you use the "Work print" for short comings of 2003. LOL We shall see Jamon. I bet within two years we will be talking TIH2. I don't think Marvel would be so stupid to turn over creative control. Disney is in it to get a share of the pie. Since no one here has seen the contract, we have no idea the in's and out's. Isn't Hulk the Ride at Disney land? Ya think they might like the character. Just a little bit. :oldrazz:

Workprints effect movies BO no matter how you look at it CJ, not saying without the leak Hulk would have made mega numbers, but it did effect it, maybe cost the movie $50 million ww in revenue.

really doubt Disney paid 4bill to take a "share of the Pie". They want control. They got control.

Exactly, they arent just going to let Marvel approve movies left, right and centre Disney arent willing to put up the funds, and I dont see them putting up the funds to a sequel when the first movie was pretty much a flop, not to mention the movie before it which was also.

If you're going to say that then I can say that 2003 cost TIH $ as well.

See, and this isnt talking as a fan of 2003 Hulk, but if TIH was so good, WOM would have gotten over the supposed bad taste the 2003 movie left. TIH was in theatre's long enough for good WOM to spread, it obviously just didnt. Batman Begins made a lot more than TIH and that was coming off a worse movie than TIH was and had no box office stars in it. I wouldnt mind but the DVD sales on TIH were average at best as well, so the GA didnt think as much of the movie as you did CJ.
 
The Hulk needs two elements.

1. Character drama
2. Hulk smashing.

Ang Lee's Hulk had #1, but none of #2.

TIH had tons of #2, but very little drama.

IMO, the winning formula is a darker, more dramatic, Hulk movie than TIH, but with just as much action.
 
I feel the hulk vs army thing is done pretty well with Ang Lee Hulk, the hulk vs evil hulk is done pretty well in TIH.

For TIH2, We need the Leader!
 
See, and this isnt talking as a fan of 2003 Hulk, but if TIH was so good, WOM would have gotten over the supposed bad taste the 2003 movie left. TIH was in theatre's long enough for good WOM to spread, it obviously just didnt. Batman Begins made a lot more than TIH and that was coming off a worse movie than TIH was and had no box office stars in it. I wouldnt mind but the DVD sales on TIH were average at best as well, so the GA didnt think as much of the movie as you did CJ.

I never said it was so good, but that if you can say the workprint had an effect on Hulk then Hulk had an effect on TIH. I think it would have done better if 2003 didn't happen. The same thing you are saying about the workprint. And stop using Batman as an example for a reboot. They're not even in the same league.
 
I never said it was so good, but that if you can say the workprint had an effect on Hulk then Hulk had an effect on TIH. I think it would have done better if 2003 didn't happen. The same thing you are saying about the workprint. And stop using Batman as an example for a reboot. They're not even in the same league.

How is Batman not in the same league, it was a re-boot of the character 7 years later (TIH was only 5) that made lots more than TIH, because the word of mouth was so good on it.

TIH obviously didnt get the GA's mouths watering enough for WOM to spread, if TIH was good enough, 2003 Hulk wouldnt have mattered, in the end, the TIH DVD sales were also pretty poor, you cant blame 2003 Hulk on that, that was all TIH.
 
TIH obviously didnt get the GA's mouths watering enough for WOM to spread, if TIH was good enough, 2003 Hulk wouldnt have mattered, in the end, the TIH DVD sales were also pretty poor, you cant blame 2003 Hulk on that, that was all TIH.

But you have to agree that there were quite a few other factors which had an effect on TIH's box office.

The marketing was non-existent and very late, as soon as the release date for TIH passed, I didn't see any TV spots for it. And the lack of marketing didn't make it clear that this film wasn't a sequel to Ang's Hulk. It was never really shown in adverts and such that this is a reboot.

And the placement of the film's release was pretty bad. It did have some pretty good competition around it when it was released.


Also I know many people that still haven't seen TIH. Why? Because they barely know of it. Most don't even know there is a TIH until someone shows footage to them which generally gains interest.
 
But you have to agree that there were quite a few other factors which had an effect on TIH's box office.

The marketing was non-existent and very late, as soon as the release date for TIH passed, I didn't see any TV spots for it. And the lack of marketing didn't make it clear that this film wasn't a sequel to Ang's Hulk. It was never really shown in adverts and such that this is a reboot.

And the placement of the film's release was pretty bad. It did have some pretty good competition around it when it was released.


Also I know many people that still haven't seen TIH. Why? Because they barely know of it. Most don't even know there is a TIH until someone shows footage to them which generally gains interest.

I'll totally agree with that, the marketing was atrocious and it seemed Marvel just didnt care about TIH as they did with Iron Man.
 
I'll totally agree with that, the marketing was atrocious and it seemed Marvel just didnt care about TIH as they did with Iron Man.

That is why I think Marvel only really made TIH so they could have their own Hulk character that would fit in with the other Marvel heroes and be a set up for The Avengers.

The Avengers is Marvel's big goal and they needed TIH for it to work. Iron Man was a totally new franchise altogether so they would promote it like one as they know big money is there to be made.
 
That is why I think Marvel only really made TIH so they could have their own Hulk character that would fit in with the other Marvel heroes and be a set up for The Avengers.

The Avengers is Marvel's big goal and they needed TIH for it to work. Iron Man was a totally new franchise altogether so they would promote it like one as they know big money is there to be made.

I just dont understand it though, done right and marketed right, a Hulk franchise has/had much more potential for a big profit than a unknown character, if they had just marketed it right, or even waited a year to release it, we may have been talking about TIH2 now.
 
How is Batman not in the same league, it was a re-boot of the character 7 years later (TIH was only 5) that made lots more than TIH, because the word of mouth was so good on it.

TIH obviously didnt get the GA's mouths watering enough for WOM to spread, if TIH was good enough, 2003 Hulk wouldnt have mattered, in the end, the TIH DVD sales were also pretty poor, you cant blame 2003 Hulk on that, that was all TIH.

Actually they weren't all that bad. They were right around Hulk 2003 sales. These sales did not account for new media like Blue Ray. I won't even touch the pirating issue since this affects sales of many different films. And I recently read an article (although I don't remember where) that said that TIH dvd sales were strong enough to keep Marvel with a positive increase in their net worth relative to the previous year. In fact, all articles that I have read regarding Marvel and their quartely reports have indicated that both Iron Man and TIH had strong DVD sales.
 
Actually they weren't all that bad. They were right around Hulk 2003 sales. These sales did not account for new media like Blue Ray. I won't even touch the pirating issue since this affects sales of many different films. And I recently read an article (although I don't remember where) that said that TIH dvd sales were strong enough to keep Marvel with a positive increase in their net worth relative to the previous year. In fact, all articles that I have read regarding Marvel and their quartely reports have indicated that both Iron Man and TIH had strong DVD sales.

Check The-numbers.com, TIH didnt even make half on DVD as that of Iron Man, IM sold brilliantly, TIH didnt, its all there on the-numbers.com, which is probably the most reliable site when it comes to DVD sales, that I have found anyway.
 
The numbers is a great site when it comes to looking up DVD sales.
 

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