TMOS Set & Official Photo Thread - Discussion Welcome - Part 2

[wspsupes]

Considering how often I have seen it ripped up, I doubt it is indestructible.

In some adaptions not, some yes. Not sure which the big screen will portray....I guess we'll find out in one of the (hopefully) many battle scenes. :fingerscrossed t:

 

[Dr.]

I believe its more of a density thing under the yellow sun. What powers Supes is, his cellular structure becomes more dense under a yellow sun. I would just guess that the same thing happens to Kryptonian metals---their cellular structure densities intensify.

I love talking about this stuff...God bless this board!

Dense also means heavy. And dense enough to withstand an exploding rocket blast means very heavy. Clearly, Supes’ weight isn’t measured in tons. Ergo, his invulnerability isn’t due to density.

I like this stuff too.

 

[wspsupes]

Dense also means heavy. And dense enough to withstand an exploding rocket blast means very heavy. Clearly, Supes’ weight isn’t measured in tons. Ergo, his invulnerability isn’t due to density.

I like this stuff too.

Glad you're on board.

Granted, this is coming from Wikipedia:

As originally conceived and presented in his early stories, Superman's powers were relatively limited, consisting of superhuman strength that allowed him to lift a car over his head, run at amazing speeds and leap one-eighth of a mile, as well as an incredibly dense body structure that could be pierced by nothing less than an exploding artillery shell.

The source of Superman's powers has changed subtly over the course of his history. It was originally stated that Superman's abilities derived from his Kryptonian heritage, which made him eons more evolved than humans.[73] This was soon amended, with the source for the powers now based upon the establishment of Krypton's gravity as having been stronger than that of the Earth

As Superman's powers increased, the implication that all Kryptonians had possessed the same abilities became problematic for writers, making it doubtful that a race of such beings could have been wiped out by something as trifling as an exploding planet. In part to counter this, the Superman writers established that Kryptonians, whose native star Rao had been red, only possessed superpowers under the light of a yellow sun.[101]

This last part doesn't say why though. Any help from anyone?

 

[rdh007]

My only near complaint so far is that his legs look out of proportion in those fuzzy, far away pics.

 

[Dr.]

Granted, this is coming from Wikipedia:

As originally conceived and presented in his early stories, Superman's powers were relatively limited, consisting of superhuman strength that allowed him to lift a car over his head, run at amazing speeds and leap one-eighth of a mile, as well as an incredibly dense body structure...

Oh, I’m aware that “dense molecular structure” has been used within canon. I’m just saying that it doesn’t make any sense (to anyone with a grade-school grasp of physics).

Say what you like about Byrne’s “aura” concept. But the beauty of it is that it isn’t actually an “explanation” - and, therefore, defies refutation.

Whedon’s “phlebotinum” or the generic “unobtainium” are, likewise, irrefutable.

 

[wspsupes]

Oh, I’m aware that “dense molecular structure” has been used within canon. I’m just saying that it doesn’t make any sense (to anyone with a grade-school grasp of physics).

Say what you like about Byrne’s “aura” concept. But the beauty of it is that it isn’t actually an “explanation” - and, therefore, defies refutation.

Whedon’s “phlebotinum” or the generic “unobtainium” are, likewise, irrefutable.

I'm not sure though if density would affect body weight. Sort of like being weightless in space. Believe that has to do with gravity.

 

[wspsupes]

^I could be absolutely wrong on this, however....been a long time....

 

[Dark Knight]

Or perhaps he is hovering a few feet above Superman and some shots will be done cgi without wire work, so they need the marker for the height they want him at.

That is certainly another possibility. Either that, or he will be wearing a "For Tomorrow"/Russian Zod" type of Kryptonian battle suit!

 

[tomk]

I'm not sure though if density would affect body weight. Sort of like being weightless in space. Believe that has to do with gravity.

Density does indeed affect body weight. Higher density = higher body weight for the same volume.
But all this pseudo science mumbo jumbo arrived relatively late on the scene. He had super powers because........he was Superman. Any attempts I've so far seen to explain it scientifically have been nonsense and only served to draw attention to the basic absurdity of it all.
He's Superman. That's enough for me.

 

[Superman4ever]

My sisters' response to the pics was pretty enlightening; I just showed them the set pics and they're impressed with the suit design. They said that it looked like Superman came straight out of the cartoons (read: "comics"; their referring to his build wise and icon-ness), but they also stated that it would be intimidating and cool to see this man in person. They like it a lot.

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

I will take hovering over a battle suit please!

 

[Superman4ever]

Actually the topic of his suit's fabric material came up in the "Ask Matt" columns on Supermanhomepage.com. His suit material is stronger than earthly fabrics, but that is not what makes it indestructible; Superman has an aura that extends past his skin that makes the suit indestructible (to a point). Ever notice how his cape nearly always rips before his suit? That's because it's not in direct contact with his skin.

Considering how often I have seen it ripped up, I doubt it is indestructible.

This is only when some external force, which is greater than Superman's aura, is able to penetrate past it to his skin. Hence, bullets, fire and some bombs don't affect him or his suit, but Supervillans, H-bombs, evil-doer death-rays, etc, do some serious damage. Also, if kryptonite (depending on how long he is exposed), is on sight, drains the aura and, hence, gunshots rip into him and Batman's punches hurt.

 

[Superman]

He looks ridiculous with all that blue. I'm so sick of people in Hollywood changing the heroes to what THEY think the heroes should look like. It's not there heroes, They are every ones heroes.

From this new Spiderman costume to this crap superman Hollywood constantly tries to change what has been proven to work.

I hope this falls on it's face then maybe we will get a real Superman someday.

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

He looks ridiculous with all that blue. I'm so sick of people in Hollywood changing the heroes to what THEY think the heroes should look like. It's not there heroes, They are every ones heroes.

From this new Spiderman costume to this crap superman Hollywood constantly tries to change what has been proven to work.

I hope this falls on it's face then maybe we will get a real Superman someday.

I am a bit surprised by your attitude. I guess I expected your vision as far as classic, but I didn't think you would go this far with it You were like the best moderator we had for this forum back in the day. Perhaps you need more time to process what is happening and see more media. Give the film a chance. We haven't seen anything on film yet even!

 

[Dark Knight]

He looks ridiculous with all that blue. I'm so sick of people in Hollywood changing the heroes to what THEY think the heroes should look like. It's not there heroes, They are every ones heroes.

From this new Spiderman costume to this crap superman Hollywood constantly tries to change what has been proven to work.

I hope this falls on it's face then maybe we will get a real Superman someday.

^^^^
I think this post is RIDICULOUS actually!

 

[socool]

He looks ridiculous with all that blue. I'm so sick of people in Hollywood changing the heroes to what THEY think the heroes should look like. It's not there heroes, They are every ones heroes.

From this new Spiderman costume to this crap superman Hollywood constantly tries to change what has been proven to work.

I hope this falls on it's face then maybe we will get a real Superman someday.

The Spider-Man reboot has been cited as one of the worst looking upcoming movies despite the fact that everyone that saw the Comic Con footage said it looked amazing. It's because the costume sucks. (I don't think so. Some parts are ****, though. *cough*Shoes*cough* ) That will never change.

Now Superman has to deal with the same thing with you calling out this movie for the costume. It's just excessive complaining. You can not like the costume, sure. You can voice your opinion on your distaste for the costume, too, no problem. But if costume made a movie, then Spider-Man 1-3 must be pure gold, right?

Give the movie a chance, please. Aside from the suit, I don't know what you have to complain about. I haven't seen you complain about the casting, director, writer, or plot. Unless I missed something.

BUT...you have a point. Changing the costume is...dumb. It's stupid and it's unwelcome, usually. Spider-Man's change was because they wanted to mix homemade and professional. I guess in their own weird way, they succeeded...while sacrificing looks... Maybe Superman's look will be influenced somehow, although I can't really think of one...

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

We haven't even seen a full quality photo reveal. This attitude surprises me. The first teaser photo looked impressive, and I expect we will be seeing some excellent visuals in the future.

 

[sf2]

He looks ridiculous with all that blue. I'm so sick of people in Hollywood changing the heroes to what THEY think the heroes should look like. It's not there heroes, They are every ones heroes.

From this new Spiderman costume to this crap superman Hollywood constantly tries to change what has been proven to work.

I hope this falls on it's face then maybe we will get a real Superman someday.

i agree. they simply love to ruin everything!!!

however the suit alone will not break or affect the movie that much. it's the story.

since it's another origin, or kinda smallville the movie, i don't think it will do the ironman number.

 

[Dark Knight]

We haven't even seen a full quality photo reveal. This attitude surprises me. The first teaser photo looked impressive, and I expect we will be seeing some excellent visuals in the future.

 

[Kryptonian Warrior]

He looks ridiculous with all that blue. I'm so sick of people in Hollywood changing the heroes to what THEY think the heroes should look like. It's not there heroes, They are every ones heroes.

From this new Spiderman costume to this crap superman Hollywood constantly tries to change what has been proven to work.

I hope this falls on it's face then maybe we will get a real Superman someday.

Well apparently your version of a "Real Superman" is Christopher Reeve 30 years ago. Don't get me wrong, he was a fantastic Superman and times have changed A LOT since then. So I would suggest popping in your copy into your Beta Max player, while wearing your Chris Reeve Superman pajamas. Also, it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to get your comics, from 40's to the 80's and lose yourself in the pages of ole.

 

[wspsupes]

i agree. they simply love to ruin everything!!!

however the suit alone will not break or affect the movie that much. it's the story.

since it's another origin, or kinda smallville the movie, i don't think it will do the ironman number.

I think the bulk of it will be in Metropolis. They've only just started filming.

 

[HighFivingMF]

i agree. they simply love to ruin everything!!!

however the suit alone will not break or affect the movie that much. it's the story.

since it's another origin, or kinda smallville the movie, i don't think it will do the ironman number.

I'm sure the original origin movie from 30 years ago that the general audience hasn't seen and the show that the general audience has most likely never heard of will really hinder this movie's performance.

 

[sf2]

We haven't even seen a full quality photo reveal. This attitude surprises me. The first teaser photo looked impressive, and I expect we will be seeing some excellent visuals in the future.

it's blue all. can a full quality pic change that???

anyway, if they really wanna do a remake on suit to make it cool and futuristic so-called, they should go the 'superman-live' style.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvhMejIcD9o&feature=related

it looks excellent as a new design.

unlike this, neither here nor there.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Is that your way of conceding?

No. But you don't need a super scientific explanation for why it works either. Just something that sounds plausible. "Highly advanced Kryptonian alloy" would do the trick. Fiction is crammed with such examples.

How has Lex Luthor been running around in that ghasty green and purple armor of his all these years without Supes tearing it to shreds or instantly melting it? Surely an advanced race like the Kryptonians could build armor to rival that of a mere Earthman, even a genius one.

Personally I don't care if Zod even has armor, but Sherlock's explanation is quite satisfactory.

So no, I guess that's not my way of conceding.

 

[Project862006]