Tom Welling as Superman

[Gmanofsteel]

Goyer: Also the problem with the internet is that the people who are posting when they're rabid, even though a lot of them are smart, are a very small portion of the audience. I mean, incrementally small. They're a very vocal but very small group, and not necessarily representative of the broader audience.

Quoted for truth

 

[Lighthouse]

well BA wouldnt be an issue since it's a June release but Avatar has had that slot for a while even before M&A I believe, and is that really a big enough project to scare off the likes of Disney and Dreamworks? I know it's a Cameron film, but still....

Did I miss something? Is Cameron directing two movies? I was pretty sure Battle Angel was on the back burner so that he could do Avatar.

 

[StorminNorman]

I have a problem with Welling playing JLA Supes.

Just as I have a problem with Routh playing JLA Supes if this Superman is not the same Superman from the other movies.

It would confuse the hell out of an already stupid movie going audience. If Welling plays Superman in this Justice League, you need to make it Smallville: The Movie.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

*sigh* not this argument again...

no you dont have to make it "Smallville the movie." No one else from the show or Superman lore for that matter will even be in the JLA film. They dont have to even reference anything from the show. That's why this works, as opposed to putting him in a Superman film with a different cast.

 

[StorminNorman]

*sigh* not this argument again...

no you dont have to make it "Smallville the movie." No one else from the show or Superman lore for that matter will even be in the JLA film. They dont have to even reference anything from the show. That's why this works, as opposed to putting him in a Superman film with a different cast.

Yes, you do. People get confused. People are stupid. Many consider Batman Begins to be a prequel.

Again - its the same reason why they are not going to use Bale or Routh. People connect actors to franchises. Tom Welling has no business being Superman if it is not a Smallville movie.

 

[Gmanofsteel]

Yes, you do. People get confused. People are stupid. Many consider Batman Begins to be a prequel.

And yet they are still making TDK so regardless of what some people might think, it didn't kill the franchise and it really doesn't matter.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

Yes, you do. People get confused. People are stupid. Many consider Batman Begins to be a prequel.

I fail to see how that situation is analogous to this one? Welling isnt wearing the suit in Smallville and wont be around any of the same characters in the JLA. (Technically it will be a completely different role for him seeing as how he doesnt play a fully realized Superman on Smallville).Two things that cant be said for Begins vs. the other Bat films. Not to mention people cant be that dumb if Begins did well enough to have a sequel.

Again - its the same reason why they are not going to use Bale or Routh. People connect actors to franchises.

That's not the reason they're not using Bale or Routh. They're not using Bale because they want Nolan's Bat franchise to continue along side of it, and Nolan's Batman doesnt exist in a world with things like the JLA. His Batman is grounded in reality, that was the point of him doing it. Routh on the other hand, doesnt seem to have really caught on with the public, and didnt do anything special with the role. Although I do think to an extent they want to distance JLA from Singer's Superman seeing as how the guys at WB backing JLA seem to hate Singer's Superman.

Tom Welling has no business being Superman if it is not a Smallville movie.

Says who? He's got plenty of business doing it as he's been Clark Kent for longer than any person ever at this point. This wouldnt exactly be anything new. Kenneth Branagh played Hamlet for years on stage and TV before being cast for the role in a major Hollywood film with an entirely new cast around him BTW.

 

[Gmanofsteel]

Not to mention people cant be that dumb if Begins did well enough to have a sequel.

I have to admit though, a few days after Begins came out I was eating at a restraunt and my waiter over heard me talking about Smallville and he and I had a comic related conversation. I had to inform him that BB was actually not a prequel but the first film in a brand new franchise.

 

[Eddie Brock]

My friend thought it was a prequel.

I said, "Well...we know who's going to be the villain in the sequel."

And he was like, "There isn't going to be a sequel. This is supposed to come before the 1989 movie."

 

[Gmanofsteel]

That's not the reason they're not using Bale or Routh. They're not using Bale because they want Nolan's Bat franchise to continue along side of it, and Nolan's Batman doesnt exist in a world with things like the JLA. His Batman is grounded in reality, that was the point of him doing it. Routh on the other hand, doesnt seem to have really caught on with the public, and didnt do anything special with the role. Although I do think to an extent they want to distance JLA from Singer's Superman seeing as how the guys at WB backing JLA seem to hate Singer's Superman.

One of the sure reasons why BR won't be in JLA is also because during the alleged time of the JLA filming, BR will be doing another film.

 

[Gmanofsteel]

My friend thought it was a prequel.

I said, "Well...we know who's going to be the villain in the sequel."

And he was like, "There isn't going to be a sequel. This is supposed to come before the 1989 movie."

That's what happens when all people do is watch the movie and never read anything else about it Ironic how people can make such painfully obvious assumptions and treat their own opinions as fact

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

also Smallville has a core audience of about 5 million people per week in the US. (6.5 million in it's hey day) Most people who go to see the film may not have ever watched an episode of the show so its not like there's going to be this mass confusion that you'd have if Welling had played Superman in some box office smash hit.

 

[Gmanofsteel]

also Smallville has a core audience of about 5 million people per week in the US. (6.5 million in it's hey day) Most people who go to see the film may not have ever watched an episode of the show so its not like there's going to be this mass confusion that you'd have if Welling had played Superman in some box office smash hit.

There is also the percentage who doesn't religiously watch the show, but will remember hearing his name and think "oh yeah the guy who is clark kent on smallville, that will be cool to see him as Superman".

 

[AgentPat]

Jeeze. And I thought August of '04 was bad.

Anyhoo, the latest from Sanchez:

ladies and gents, I will be posting an update on JL by Friday night, I promise. Just trying to get things confirmed and/or debunked.

Everybody keep your fingers crossed.

 

[KBX]

ladies and gents, I will be posting an update on JL by Friday night, I promise. Just trying to get things confirmed and/or debunked.

That sounds nice and all, its just I fear that his update will be that this movie will not happen..... sigh....

 

[AgentPat]

That sounds nice and all, its just I fear that his update will be that this movie will not happen..... sigh....

Y'know, if that's the case, then so be it. I just want something I can sink my teeth into with some assurance it's real. One way or the other; lets get some answers. Throw this baby into the pond and lets see if it sinks or swims. I'm getting whiplash flipping back and forth between forums.

 

[Gmanofsteel]

Jeeze. And I thought August of '04 was bad.

Anyhoo, the latest from Sanchez:




Everybody keep your fingers crossed.

Always loved that pic

 

[AgentPat]

Always loved that pic

Heh. You aint seen NUTHIN' yet.

Waiting. Juussssst waiting....

 

[KBX]

Y'know, if that's the case, then so be it. I just want something I can sink my teeth into with some assurance it's real. One way or the other; lets get some answers. Throw this baby into the pond and lets see if it sinks or swims. I'm getting whiplash flipping back and forth between forums.

Then I tell myself there have been hints, such as the casting sides for a JL movie in New York, Vancouver, Toronto, and the Superman Homepage stating that this movie will shoot after Wolvernine in Fox studies beginning Feburary...

Ok I've come to the conclusion that JL might happen, just not with Tom Welling in it, thus an 8th season of Smallville...

 

[AgentPat]

...I've come to the conclusion that JL might happen, just not with Tom Welling in it, thus an 8th season of Smallville...

I'm keeping an open mind that no matter what happens, it'll be a good thing. S7->JL or S7->S8. I'll only be pissed if it ends with S7 and we don't get a JL film. LOL

 

[Justice Bringer]

I was thinking..

Wouldnt it simply be alot easier to write the JL script within the continuity of Smallville if they want to use Welling?

The Mulrooney's script has Superman meeting Aquaman and Flash for the first time among other things and different characterizations.

Should they just keep the Smallville Justice League lineup with the existing actors as an established team and add Green Lantern, Superman and Batman to it....as opposed to negating SV?

Smallville already has Green Arrow, Cyborg, Aquaman, Bart Allen, Martian Manhunter established and this year; Black Canary added to the mix.

I was thinking if they want to use Welling; they could set JL in the 'not too distant future' (like X-men) after Clark has completed his years of training and have him rejoin the existing Justice League from Smallville while introducing some new characters.

Keeping the Smallville continuity also opens the doors for Rosenbaum and Durance to appear in future installments if Welling is cast.

It just seems alot less convoluted than having Welling play a version of the character thats different from Smallville in a different continuity. His appearance alone draws immediate connections to Smallville.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

who says Black Canary will be on Smallville this year?

 

[Justice Bringer]

Oliver is returning with a new JL member; its obviously Black Canary. Explains why Lois is pissed off again.

Any other character would get his own focus episode but given how secondary she is (and how tied to Oliver Queen) it makes sense.

I can't imagine who else it would be.

 

[ZIPBAGS]

It would make sense if they bring another female hero into Smallville that it be Black Canary. Like the above poster said. She has ties to Green Arrow. Actually, it would make even more sense. Since one of the big things in the comics now is their upcoming marriage. And the fact that both Green Arrow and Black Canary have been getting a lot of stories lately. (ie-Green Arrow, year one and a couple of Black Canary minis).

On the Friday news about JLA. I hope its good.

Actually, here are a couple of recent and upcoming comic covers....


JLA Wedding Special (Superman busting out of the cake )

Green Arrow/Black Canary Wedding Special

 

[Showtime]

You mean the announcement? I think the first official word from the studio will be that they're making a JL film and that Miller will be directing. Anything more than that will be gravy. Thick, juicy gravy.

Do I think in the end Welling will be Superman in said film? Ah jeeze, Showtime, I HOPE so. I really, REALLY hope so. But I'm not gonna slit my wrists if it doesn't happen LOL. I've been down this road once before. I'm keeping my hopes up, but I know it's Hollywood. And we all know that "nobody knows anything in Hollywood." [/William Goldman]

I guess everybody will just have to be patient and see what happens. I have to keep my mind of the Red Sox.