Tom Welling as Superman

[Serene]

To the best of my knowledge, an announcement will be made VERY soon on whether they hammered out the details with Smallville's team to bring Welling over to JLA or not. He is apparently completely on board but Al Gough and others are really fighting it.

No words. I'll just sit and wait to see what actually happens.
*hiding pitchfork behind back*

Do we know anything about this emijayne person? I wonder what her rep for inside spoilers has been in the past.

 

[TWistim]

Well hey, what's another couple of rumors for the pile, huh? LOL From CountingDown:


Question: any idea on how a shoot in Oz could impact Welling's casting as Supes? Although I guess WB always knew this was shooting there when they started going after Welling in the 1st place.

Answer: I don't know what if any effect it will have. To the best of my knowledge, an announcement will be made VERY soon on whether they hammered out the details with Smallville's team to bring Welling over to JLA or not. He is apparently completely on board but Al Gough and others are really fighting it. From what I hear, it is partly because they were told in the beginning that Smallville could not have Superman and now WB suddenly wants Welling in the suit. It's pretty much like a bunch of kids fighting in the sandbox over who gets the Tonka truck.

Question: thanks emijayne, that's interesting to hear. I wouldnt think that Gough and Millar could really do much to stop Tom from taking the role seeing as how his contract is with WB not them.

You would also think they would want him to do it, since it basically validates what they've done the past 6+ years on Smallville. I'm guessing WB could just toss them some kind of "finder's fee" for the casting in the form of cash or a development deal, etc.

Answer: Al Gough is the executive producer of the show as well as a writer and co-creator. He may not be able to do anything but that doesn't mean he wouldn't try. I do agree with you that one would think he'd be happy to see this happen and simply move on to the Supergirl spin-off. Everything is about money in today's world though. Fans mean squat.

Thanks for the info. This seems to be in keeping with the other reports we've been hearing and its certainly the gut feeling I get re: Millar/Gough.

I will be laughing ALL DAY LONG thinking about G&M and Warner execs fighting in a sandbox over who gets the TonkaWelling Truck

Yeah, it all seems so silly but if they are the reason Tom doesn't star in this movie I for one will not be laughing long!

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

Do we know anything about this emijayne person? I wonder what her rep for inside spoilers has been in the past.

I know that she posted the Welling thing about 2 1/2 weeks before IESB

 

[Serene]

I know that she posted the Welling thing about 2 1/2 weeks before IESB

Awesome.

(hopefully )

 

[COMPO]

so, is Welling going to be Superman? Or is it still rumours?

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

if you think about it, this would jive with Gough's pissy response to being asked the "million dollar question" by SMHP.

 

[OobeDoobBenubi]

if you think about it, this would jive with Gough's pissy response to being asked the "million dollar question" by SMHP.

I doubt they have the say to do anything. In the end the WB signs their pay checks. If they push the wrong buttons I would not be surprised if they get fired depending on what they say & do.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

oh, they cant really do much other than refuse to be cooperative with the shooting schedule, although in the end they still work for WB so WB can make life MUCH more difficult on them than they can make it on WB.

I can see Gough's point in a way, I mean the studio busted his ass about a lot of things for years and wouldnt allow him access to some Superman imagery, Bruce Wayne, etc. and now they want HIS Superman to come save their bacon. I dont think there's anything wrong with him wanting some kind of finder's fee for finding the new Superman and building up the "brand" for the past 6 years. Gough may want cash, he may want a production deal, he may want a credit on the JLA film, or he may want certain assurances about how he gets to finish his show, who knows? But for him to be "dead set" against it seems like a little much. In a way it does validate what he's done with Tom and Smallville and reflects favorably on him. This may just be a negotiating ploy on his part since he's had to pull teeth with the Studio before.

 

[AgentPat]

Yeah, it all seems so silly but if they are the reason Tom doesn't star in this movie I for one will not be laughing long!

Oh, I hear ya, but if this is all true, then I think it's good news. Not G&M's opposition, but the fact that Welling is completely on board, which means WB wants him and he wants to do it. Bottom line: G&M can't stop them. They're only pissing off their star by making things difficult. Don't argue with a truck. The truck is bigger than you.


BTW, I love irony. Here's a behind the scenes shot from Mad Max:

That's George Miller on the left. The dark haired guy in the red jacket. I'm not kidding. LOL!!!!

 

[Serene]

oh, they cant really do much other than refuse to be cooperative with the shooting schedule, although in the end they still work for WB so WB can make life MUCH more difficult on them than they can make it on WB.

I can see Gough's point in a way, I mean the studio busted his ass about a lot of things for years and wouldnt allow him access to some Superman imagery, Bruce Wayne, etc. and now they want HIS Superman to come save their bacon. I dont think there's anything wrong with him wanting some kind of finder's fee for finding the new Superman and building up the "brand" for the past 6 years. Gough may want cash, he may want a production deal, he may want a credit on the JLA film, or he may want certain assurances about how he gets to finish his show, who knows? But for him to be "dead set" against it seems like a little much. in a way it does validate what he's done with Tom and Smallville. It may just be a negotiating ploy on his part since he's had to pull teeth with the Studio before.

I can understand his stance too, however I would hope that for Tom's sake and for all that Tom's done to make his show what it is after all these seasons, he wouldn't totally screw Tom over by overplaying his hardball stance.

If this is all true, then I guess we just cross our fingers and hope they work out some kind of compromise SOON.

 

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I can understand his stance too

If that is the reason why they are mad I can understand. But to do everything they can to not let Welling do this even though he wants to as some kind of "revenge" is just plain childish. I hope these two does something stupid & gets fired. These two will be more hated then Singer.

 

[AgentPat]

I can see Gough's point in a way, I mean the studio busted his ass about a lot of things for years and wouldnt allow him access to some Superman imagery, Bruce Wayne, etc. and now they want HIS Superman to come save their bacon. I dont think there's anything wrong with him wanting some kind of finder's fee for finding the new Superman and building up the "brand" for the past 6 years. Gough may want cash, he may want a production deal, he may want a credit on the JLA film, or he may want certain assurances about how he gets to finish his show, who knows? But for him to be "dead set" against it seems like a little much. In a way it does validate what he's done with Tom and Smallville and reflects favorably on him. This may just be a negotiating ploy on his part since he's had to pull teeth with the Studio before.

All this could easily explain why it's taking so long.

What are the chances that Warners has been holding off on Miller's announcement because they want to announce some high profile castings as well? Welling and Reynolds would certainly qualify, and who knows who Sanchez has been hinting at for Batman? That one could be in the bag by now too.

 

[TWistim]

Oh, I hear ya, but if this is all true, then I think it's good news. Not G&M's opposition, but the fact that Welling is completely on board, which means WB wants him and he wants to do it. Bottom line: G&M can't stop them.

t: That is good news!!! Maybe its not champagne time yet but it certainly looks to be shaping up the way we want it! (Don't stop sacrificing those chickens now! )

They're only pissing off their star by making things difficult. Don't argue with a truck. The truck is bigger than you.


BTW, I love irony. Here's a behind the scenes shot from Mad Max:

That's George Miller on the left. The dark haired guy in the red jacket. I'm not kidding. LOL!!!!

LOL!!! That is hilarious!

 

[AgentPat]

t: That is good news!!! Maybe its not champagne time yet but it certainly looks to be shaping up the way we want it! (Don't stop sacrificing those chickens now! )

Only today. I'll go back to sacrificing them tomorrow though.

LOL!!! That is hilarious!

I laughed when I first saw it too. Then I sprayed coffee all over my monitor when I found it THAT was George Miller. Baahaa!!!! Ya just have to laugh.

 

[RakuMon]

oh, they cant really do much other than refuse to be cooperative with the shooting schedule, although in the end they still work for WB so WB can make life MUCH more difficult on them than they can make it on WB.

I can see Gough's point in a way, I mean the studio busted his ass about a lot of things for years and wouldnt allow him access to some Superman imagery, Bruce Wayne, etc. and now they want HIS Superman to come save their bacon. I dont think there's anything wrong with him wanting some kind of finder's fee for finding the new Superman and building up the "brand" for the past 6 years. Gough may want cash, he may want a production deal, he may want a credit on the JLA film, or he may want certain assurances about how he gets to finish his show, who knows? But for him to be "dead set" against it seems like a little much. In a way it does validate what he's done with Tom and Smallville and reflects favorably on him. This may just be a negotiating ploy on his part since he's had to pull teeth with the Studio before.

Who knows? Maybe we'll be able to get some real Superman imagery on the show if WB and GM work things out. It might even allow G&M to finally have Bruce Wayne and Diana on the show. :eep: That'll sure endear them to fanboys.

 

[Billy Batson]

It might even allow G&M to finally have Bruce Wayne and Diana on the show. :eep: That'll sure endear them to fanboys.

No more Justice Leaguers, save that for the film.
Adam Knight should have been Bruce Wayne.

 

[Migu-EL]

Who knows? Maybe we'll be able to get some real Superman imagery on the show if WB and GM work things out. It might even allow G&M to finally have Bruce Wayne and Diana on the show. :eep: That'll sure endear them to fanboys.

I was just thinking the same thing.

 

[Serene]

Only today. I'll go back to sacrificing them tomorrow though.

Sorry.. I just can't resist a good chicken joke.

 

[TWistim]

Only today. I'll go back to sacrificing them tomorrow though.

Yeah, I hear ya. I remember it was a beautiful cool fall Tuesday in Texas much like the one we're having today. Suddenly some things would never be the same. Some lost more than others but we all lost something that day.

Thanks for the reminder.

 

[AgentPat]

Yeah, I hear ya. I remember it was a beautiful cool fall Tuesday in Texas much like the one we're having today. Suddenly some things would never be the same. Some lost more than others but we all lost something that day.

Thanks for the reminder.

No prob. I live in Boston now, but I'm originally from NY. I'm reminded every time I drive over the Whitestone Bridge on my way "home" to visit friends. It sux. It really, really sux.


Anyhoo.... On topic. This has become an addiction! LOL More from CountingDown. Nothing "new" this time, but still of interest...

Question: If Tom Welling does end up getting the lead part in this movie, color me impressed with the WB's lawyers, because it'll take some slightly tricky legal maneuvering to figure out how Tom can do this flick without violating his smallville contract. He'd almost have to film the back half of Smallville's last season, season 8, and at least a little bit of JLA at the same time.

Answer: There's the trick. When I was given all my info about Welling (posted HERE) I was told this will actually be Smallville's final season because Michael Rosenbaum already gave WB his notice that in his words "lucky number 7 is it for me" and they can't replace him. This is why Supergirl is being introduced. They will be creating a spin-off with her that the Smallville cast can make guest appearances on. The season/series finale will have Clark wear the suit in the final shot closing the show. This is what was pitched a few weeks ago according to my source.​

 

[musclesforsupes]

OH MY GOSH its getting sooo close I CAN TASTE IT! TOM IS GOING TO F'N BE SUPES!!! I NEVER truthfully thought this could happen. IF freaken Al Goof Ball messes this up I am going to eat him like I eat Triple Burgers at Wendy's


So to Gough and Miller


DONT MESS THIS UP PLEASE!t:

 

[OobeDoobBenubi]

If Michael can get out of the show on his terms then it can not be that hard for Tom. At least Tom has the WB lawyers backing him up. Maybe they can also get Microsofts lawyers involved since you cant beat Bill Gates in court t:

 

[musclesforsupes]

To bad Robert did not check with his sources and Countingdown tonight, was hoping IESB would have some new news tonight

 

[AgentPat]

If Michael can get out of the show on his terms then it can not be that hard for Tom.

There's a difference. Rosenbaum was only signed for seven years. Welling reupped his contract for eight. Rosey can walk after this season because there's nothing binding him. Welling, on the other hand...

At least Tom has the WB lawyers backing him up.

Yes! And his contract is *with* Warner Television, so everything on Warners' end was probably taken care of weeks ago.

Are you interested in JLA?
Pfft! You kidding? Where do I sign?
Right here.
*scribble* *scribble* [Dots I and crosses T] Okay, now you guys can go deal with Hans and Franz back in Vancouver. Lemme know how that goes. *whooooosh*

 

[bootspark]

Pat, in your honest opinion, what do you think the chances are of Welling actually being cast as Superman in JLA?
If you believe the rumors, I think the chances are VERY GOOD.