Tom Welling as Superman

[ZIPBAGS]

In the "Who should play Supes?" thread in the DC movies section. A poster named "Superman" said the deal for Welling to play Supes is all but dead. And supposedly he is a Welling fan.

I hope its not true.

 

[Superman_]

Yes I did say that because from what I heard from people who are very reliable who some of you know said the deal with Welling is all but dead but he said things may change but right now he is hearing it is all but dead.

 

[KalKai]

I heard the very opposite from other very reliable sources.

 

[Superman_]

Well according to Showtime that deal is all but dead but then again he says the movie is now suppose to come out in 2010 instead of 2009 so things may change. But Showtime has rarely been wrong.

 

[KalKai]

Showtime is your source?

Showtime has been wrong multiple times.

 

[Superman_]

Not really he has been pretty much dead on as of lately especially dealing with this movie.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

oh jesus,them again? They never even acknowledged hearing Welling's name mentioned for the role, now that deal is as good as dead?

 

[KalKai]

Before Sanchez broke the news about Welling being approached Showtime has been saying that Welling was in no way involved in this.

You're taking everything Showtime says as gospel, so gullible, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised considering where both of you are coming from.

 

[Showtime]

Honestly Kal and Hulk, no idea what your problem is. Never had a bad thing to say about you but for some reason you feel threatened by some of the information I put out there. If Welling becomes Superman so be it, I have no problem with Welling, nor have I said one bad thing about him.

That fact of the matter is that we have not heard one bit of information regarding Welling in weeks. What does that mean. Who knows.

Do you guys know Welling is definate for Superman? You act as if he is?

 

[Superman_]

Well first off Kal I wanted to see Welling in this movie as Superman so if this is true I am upset by this because despite my personal feelings to the way SV has gone I always did like SV cast and have always wanted to see Welling as Superman all because I am a fan of Routh and Superman Returns doesn't mean I did not like Welling or this show. I think this show much like Superman Returns could do better but I have always wanted and thought Welling should be so Superman. So if the news is true I am not happy about it.


And on a side note Showtime is not the only person who I know who has real credit in info like this saying the same thing.

 

[Showtime]

Showtime is your source?

Showtime has been wrong multiple times.

Well since you have "very reliable" sources then Welling should be announced any day now right?

In regards to Welling, the problem with you is that you are trying to paint a picture that I am intentionally trying to ruin the fans of Welling's time in the sun. Which is not true. If I watch the show, why would it matter if Welling became Superman?

Another problem with both you and Hulk is that you insist on grouping all fans of Superman Returns in too one group, "Welling Haters". That is very narrow-minded and quite suprising, since I had plenty of problems with Superman Returns.

If that is how you want to play it then feel free, but if you are going to point out to where I was wrong then also acknowledge where I was right. Dont feel so threatened by Welling possibly not getting the role that you lose sight of your agenda. Just some friendly advice. I don't feel threatened if Brandon doesn't get to be Superman again, it is what it is, my life moves on. Same with if Welling becomes Superman, it is what it is.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

Honestly Kal and Hulk, no idea what your problem is. Never had a bad thing to say about you but for some reason you feel threatened by some of the information I put out there. If Welling becomes Superman so be it, I have no problem with Welling, nor have I said one bad thing about him.

never said I had a problem with you Chief, and I'm sure as heck not "threatened" by what you have to say. I'm just getting sick and tired of all the alleged people with "sources" that seem to be popping up around here and they all seem to be getting their info about things AFTER the intiial bits pop up elsewhere. (I also have a strong hunch about where some of it is coming from)

Wouldnt you start to question things a bit if someone who was alleged to be a source never mentioned a certain actor as being up for a role, and then out of nowhere the actor's name pops up for the part on a website, and now all of a sudden that source now "knows" enough to be able to give you the status of any negotiations the actor might have been in? Seems a bit fishy to me. If they now have the ability to know the outcome of this actor's negotiations with the studio, dont you think they wouldve known those negotiations were happening the first place?

Another problem with both you and Hulk is that you insist on grouping all fans of Superman Returns in too one group, "Welling Haters". That is very narrow-minded and quite suprising, since I had plenty of problems with Superman Returns.

I do? Where have I done that? I know plenty of people over at The Planet that like both. Dont paint me as someone who has a seething hate for that movie, because I dont. I mod the forums over at the site that was the biggest supporter of that movie for cripe's sake.

 

[KalKai]

Well since you have "very reliable" sources then Welling should be announced any day now right?

I was just playing his same game. This isn't the 1st time Superman_ (All-Star) tells us about his very reliable people, although he never mentioned them by name before, I wanted to know who they were, never thought he was actually speaking about you.

 

[AgentPat]

Well first off Kal I wanted to see Welling in this movie as Superman so if this is true I am upset by this

Oh please. You voted THREE times using three different account names ("Superman_," "Conan" and "All-Star Superman") for Routh in that poll.

And on a side note Showtime is not the only person who I know who has real credit in info like this saying the same thing.

Look, no offense to Showtime because I think he's a really nice guy, but the last thing that came out of that group of "insiders" - one of whom being King trollboy himself Kane - was that Warners "would never cast Welling as Superman because they don't like him because he's uncooperative." Give me a freakin' break. That started over at BlueTights by JimJimBinks, a known fan of... well, that other franchise.

And PLEASE, lets not turn this thread into a debate about that ^ sheet. Everybody has an agenda, which is okay because we all have preferences and biases - even if they're not overtly obvious. I don't hide behind mine; I wear it proudly. Until Warners formally announces somebody else in the role, I will continue to hold onto my hope that Welling gets the part, because it would be a dream come true for me and millions of other fans to see him AS Superman on the big screen.

 

[Showtime]

never said I had a problem with you Chief, and I'm sure as heck not "threatened" by what you have to say. I'm just getting sick and tired of all the alleged people with "sources" that seem to be popping up around here and they all seem to be getting their info about things AFTER the intiial bits pop up elsewhere. (I also have a strong hunch about where some of it is coming from)

Are you being vague when refering to this people or trying to group me in there? It's a gray area. That last time I was called Chief I believe that 90210 was on the air?

You shouldn't rely that much on hunches.

Wouldnt you start to question things a bit if someone who was alleged to be a source never mentioned a certain actor as being up for a role, and then out of nowhere the actor's name pops up for the part on a website, and now all of a sudden that source now "knows" enough to be able to give you the status of any negotiations the actor might have been in? Seems a bit fishy to me. If they now have the ability to know the outcome of this actor's negotiations with the studio, dont you think they wouldve known those negotiations were happening the first place?

Again, no idea what you are talking about. If you are talking about me and my information about Welling. I actually said Welling wouldn't be up for the role because WB wasn't keen on the idea BEFORE any news on Welling broke receiving the role. After it broke, I admited that the info I received was wrong.

In regards to what Superman is talking about, he is refering to a PM we shared last night where I said I THINK the Welling deal is dead and I said but "who knows". I don't claim to have any info on Welling at all at this point, so I am not sure what happened. Superman is free to post the private message convo if he wishes, but you will see that I didn't say I had any inside info on Welling and it was my opinion at this point.

I do? Where have I done that? I know plenty of people over at The Planet that like both. Dont paint me as someone who has a seething hate for that movie, because I dont. I mod the forums over at the site that was the biggest supporter of that movie for cripe's sake.

I didn't say you hated the movie did I? I said you seem to think if somebody likes Returns then it means they are "bad". You want to group me with certain other posters and portray me as somebody that is the same way, so why not group you in together with Kal Kai? Same difference right?

 

[Showtime]

I was just playing his same game. This isn't the 1st time Superman_ (All-Star) tells us about his very reliable people, although he never mentioned them by name before, I wanted to know who they were, never thought he was actually speaking about you.

As far as I know, I don't think he was. I was misquoted anyway, and he can post the private message if he wishes.

No need to catch feelings about it.

 

[AgentPat]

The latest from IESB:

Let me be very clear of what I have alluded about Ryan Gosling. I haven't been this clear about until now. I was told that Ryan Gosling was the top choice for WB/DC [for BATMAN], I don't and I repeat, nor do I know at this time that if Gosling has been talked to or even if he is interested in the role.

I have been waiting for a weeks but with the TIFF it has delayed a few things.

I have been told that some news is coming very soon. I don't know what for sure but I am expecting that we will first hear the director and producers announced (George Miller, Barrie Osborne).

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

Are you being vague when refering to this people or trying to group me in there? It's a gray area. That last time I was called Chief I believe that 90210 was on the air?

You shouldn't rely that much on hunches.

I'm just talking about in general, not specifically you, sorry if it came across that way. I've always said I liked you and thought you were one of the more level-headed people around here. And If i was going for the 90210 thing I would've called you "Bro"

Again, no idea what you are talking about. If you are talking about me and my information about Welling. I actually said Welling wouldn't be up for the role because WB wasn't keen on the idea BEFORE any news on Welling broke receiving the role. After it broke, I admited that the info I received was wrong.

Actually I was more referring to questioning sources up a level

I didn't say you hated the movie did I? I said you seem to think if somebody likes Returns then it means they are "bad". You want to group me with certain other posters and portray me as somebody that is the same way, so why not group you in together with Kal Kai? Same difference right?

I dont think people who like Returns are bad. "Misguided" maybe but not bad and I surely dont equate them to being "Welling haterz"

 

[AgentPat]

In regards to what Superman is talking about, he is refering to a PM we shared last night where I said I THINK the Welling deal is dead and I said but "who knows". I don't claim to have any info on Welling at all at this point, so I am not sure what happened.

Thanks for clearing that up, Show. That's all that need be said.

 

[KalKai]

The latest from IESB:

What? Young Hercules being DC's/WB's top choice for Superman?

 

[Showtime]

I'm just talking about in general, not specifically you, sorry if it came across that way. I've always said I liked you and thought you were one of the more level-headed people around here. And If i was going for the 90210 thing I would've called you "Bro"

It's cool man, you are right and you did say that. We all have love for the character, so I guess we agree on that, Bro.

Actually I was more referring to questioning sources up a level

What sources are higher than me?

I dont think people who like Returns are bad. "Misguided" maybe but not bad and I surely dont equate them to being "Welling haterz"

Fair enough.

 

[Showtime]

Thanks for clearing that up, Show. That's all that need be said.

Noted.

 

[AgentPat]

What? Young Hercules being DC's/WB's top choice for Superman?

HAHAHAHA!!! I guess I should have included more from the thread. He's talking about BATMAN. LOLOLOL!! Sorry, didn't mean to give everybody a coronary. He hasn't said anything different about Superman for weeks.

I'll go edit that post now.

 

[KalKai]

HAHAHAHA!!! I guess I should have included more from the thread. He's talking about BATMAN. LOLOLOL!! Sorry, didn't mean to give everybody a coronary. He hasn't said anything different about Superman for weeks.

I'll go edit that post now.

LOL phew.

 

[Superman_]

Oh please. You voted THREE times using three different account names ("Superman_," "Conan" and "All-Star Superman") for Routh in that poll.

Look, no offense to Showtime because I think he's a really nice guy, but the last thing that came out of that group of "insiders" - one of whom being King trollboy himself Kane - was that Warners "would never cast Welling as Superman because they don't like him because he's uncooperative." Give me a freakin' break. That started over at BlueTights by JimJimBinks, a known fan of... well, that other franchise.

And PLEASE, lets not turn this thread into a debate about that ^ sheet. Everybody has an agenda, which is okay because we all have preferences and biases - even if they're not overtly obvious. I don't hide behind mine; I wear it proudly. Until Warners formally announces somebody else in the role, I will continue to hold onto my hope that Welling gets the part, because it would be a dream come true for me and millions of other fans to see him AS Superman on the big screen.

Well first off Pat all because I voted for Routh on a poll does not make me against Welling. First and foremost most of you seem to have forgotten long before you and Kal and most the fans here (I joined this board 3-10-2003 you joined 4-16-2004 which mean over a year before you) in fact the only person here that came before me was Hulk but long before then I have been saying I wanted Welling as Superman. Also Pat do you understand why I voted for Routh on that poll? Because at the time being if Bale was to be Batman then it is only fair IMO that Routh should be Superman. As I have stated over and over and over in this thread many times and on this board I would love to see Welling as Superman, but unlike most of the people on the SV board I also enjoyed Routh's Superman so I am happy with him. But all because I like Routh doesn't mean I stopped liking Welling.