Tom Welling as Superman

[Docker2.0]

Actually Welling had a dinner with Singer about the part of Supes before Routh was announced. Welling never said no he just had Smallville on his plate and he seemed focused on it. And we all know how Gough and Miller seemed to be dead set against Welling playing the part. He never said no...........it was just a bad period of time.

 

[triplet]

I know you're trying to prove a point...(which I agree with by the way)...but that picture is so not the "proof" you need.
The text obviously fake as there are no names under ANY of the other pics.

No, actually it is.

If you look closer, you'll see that the text of the other names was "erased" digitally...

There are little blurs under their images. You might have to save a copy to your hard drive and look at it in a image editor zoomed in a lot....

 

[b24]

SR tanked at box office anyway (domestically)

so it's not TW's lost

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

SR tanked at box office anyway (domestically)

so it's not TW's lost

Not really SR did pretty good box office wise for a Superhero movie with little to no action. I could understand saying it tanked it the movie was action packed but with no action at all I am pretty surprised it made what it did make. Thats the way I look at it anyways.

 

[TheLongestDay]

Not really SR did pretty good box office wise for a Superhero movie with little to no action. I could understand saying it tanked it the movie was action packed but with no action at all I am pretty surprised it made what it did make. Thats the way I look at it anyways.

the money it did make was because of the fact that it was a new Superman movie-people went to see it expecting something great...

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

the money it did make was because of the fact that it was a new Superman movie-people went to see it expecting something great...

Well then please explain to me how and why it did so great in video sales as well then? Plus if it was as bad as a movie as some of you state it would not have made 200 million and would not have people demanding a sequel or even interested in a sequel.

 

[Prison Mike]

the only people interested in a sequel are the die hard Superman fans or just SR fans. But if you ask any regular joe on the street, I bet they wouldn't care or may not even recall the movie. The movie isn't that memorable.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

the only people interested in a sequel are the die hard Superman fans or just SR fans. But if you ask any regular joe on the street, I bet they wouldn't care or may not even recall the movie. The movie isn't that memorable.

Thats because really the average joe wouldn't have cared if they made a sequel to Spider-Man, Iron Man, Superman, Batman, etc. The average joe is more like if they make it fine if they don't okay. Hell the average joe on the street could careless if Tom Welling ever put on the suit and became Superman.

 

[stargazer]

Actually Welling had a dinner with Singer about the part of Supes before Routh was announced. Welling never said no he just had Smallville on his plate and he seemed focused on it. And we all know how Gough and Miller seemed to be dead set against Welling playing the part. He never said no...........it was just a bad period of time.

Not true. Singer himself said it in an interview that Welling was never considered. He always wanted an unknown.

edit: yeah, it was in Starlog (August #348)

Not really SR did pretty good box office wise for a Superhero movie with little to no action. I could understand saying it tanked it the movie was action packed but with no action at all I am pretty surprised it made what it did make. Thats the way I look at it anyways.

Exactly. If nobody liked it, then why it sold well on dvd, right? And remember that the Superman Ultimate Collection was sold out, which included SR. I know lots of people who bought it because it included SR, myself for instance.

Thats because really the average joe wouldn't have cared if they made a sequel to Spider-Man, Iron Man, Superman, Batman, etc. The average joe is more like if they make it fine if they don't okay. Hell the average joe on the street could careless if Tom Welling ever put on the suit and became Superman.

True. They watch a movie, and if they like it they might watch it again and move on...unlike us. Actually, I was one of those people before watching SR.

 

[KBX]

Thats because really the average joe wouldn't have cared if they made a sequel to Spider-Man, Iron Man, Superman, Batman, etc. The average joe is more like if they make it fine if they don't okay. Hell the average joe on the street could careless if Tom Welling ever put on the suit and became Superman.

The average joe or movie-goer would care if the made a sequel to a movie that they liked. Those average joes saw Batman, Ironman, Spider-man and instantly wanted a sequel, Superman no so much.

 

[b24]

i m sorry to say but SR overwall totall disapointment for these resaons-

1.movie was quite similar to 1st Superman movie people didn't wanna see "remake" or orginal

2. LEX yes he is cunning evil BUT they spent 258 millions on movie and yet they couldn't get doomsday, Briniac and even Zod or parasite

3. "Land mis lane" this summrazies how this whole "land " thing is getting repetive that it's not funny

4. we never see superman usuing his power at full potential most of the time we see him flying around saving some people jumping from building stakling lois where are freaking other powers

5. bastard child- who, what wher how, what?????? i mean superbastard child ?????

6 climax was very tame and lame it was quite similar to 1st superman movie cmmon sho some big a&7 climax which showes money well spent

7. too much focus on Romance we get it he loves lois but move ON already

8. when CHICKFLICK movie The Devild's Wers Prada gives tough comptetition to MEGA BUDGET SUPERMAN MOVIE u know there is something terribaly wrong

i hope SR doesn't repeat same mistakes and give us fans of superman what we really want

 

[LL2K2]

i m sorry to say but SR overwall totall disapointment for these resaons-

1.movie was quite similar to 1st Superman movie people didn't wanna see "remake" or orginal

Coincidental.

2. LEX yes he is cunning evil BUT they spent 258 millions on movie and yet they couldn't get doomsday, Briniac and even Zod or parasite

Zod's already been done. Twice. And for the last time, the budget was not what you said it was. Warners said themselves the budget was just over $200 million.

4. we never see superman usuing his power at full potential most of the time we see him flying around saving some people jumping from building stakling lois where are freaking other powers

Don't tell me you overlooked the New Krypton scene. He exerted every OUNCE of his strength to lift that massive rock. And it was even lined with Kryptonite. AND, the K was weakening Superman. If that's not full potential, I don't know what is.

5. bastard child- who, what wher how, what?????? i mean superbastard child ?????

That brings up another question: do we really know Jason is super? Huh? Sure, there was the bit with the piano. Sure, there was Superman's speech at the end. But how do we know it wasn't adrenaline that enabled Jason to hurl the piano?

6 climax was very tame and lame it was quite similar to 1st superman movie cmmon sho some big a&7 climax which showes money well spent

Superman had no idea until it hit him - literally - that the island was riddled with Kryptonite.

Plus, there's a thing called sacrifice. Superman literally gave everything he had, every ounce of his great strength, to lift that massive rock. And it nearly cost him his LIFE!

7. too much focus on Romance we get it he loves lois but move ON already

He tried. But he couldn't. She was his first love, and it's often difficult to move on.

8. when CHICKFLICK movie The Devild's Wers Prada gives tough comptetition to MEGA BUDGET SUPERMAN MOVIE u know there is something terribaly wrong

Prada was the competition, but only in that first week. After that, it was all about Pirates.

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Amazing how you guys manage to turn this into an SR WELLING SV ROUTH SINGER orgie.

 

[Docker2.0]

Not true. Singer himself said it in an interview that Welling was never considered. He always wanted an unknown.

edit: yeah, it was in Starlog (August #348)




Exactly. If nobody liked it, then why it sold well on dvd, right? And remember that the Superman Ultimate Collection was sold out, which included SR. I know lots of people who bought it because it included SR, myself for instance.




True. They watch a movie, and if they like it they might watch it again and move on...unlike us. Actually, I was one of those people before watching SR.

Before you try to call someone a liar or whatever, do your homework. Singer may have wanted a unknown but he still has bosses to answer to and even before casting calls was announced he had a well publicized dinner with Welling......what they talked about was not known. Never the less, the dinner took place.

 

[mellyM]

Look that movie sucked and thats all there is to it, Routh failed to make any real impact as the Superman for this generation, but the title of the thread doesn't say anything about Routh or Singer and this has been debated to death for years. Some people like the film and some people don't.

 

[COMPO]

5. bastard child- who, what wher how, what?????? i mean superbastard child ?????

Is there really any need to be harsh, theres no need to call a kid a bastard. you coudl have said he was born out of wedlock.

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Look that movie sucked and thats all there is to it,

You sound so juvenile there

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/superman_returns/

That is a pretty clear cut good but not great film imo.

 

[Lighthouse]

Christ, someone just had to bring up SR. Keep it in its proper forum guys. This argument is ****ing ancient.

 

[AgentPat]

Ah yes, same ole goddamn crap, different year.

 

[Cmill216]

In these days, the success of a tentpole superhero flick is measured by the studio's level of urgency in pushing the film into a franchise.

For example: Spider-Man was a phenomenon in 2002. They started prepping the sequel that same year. Batman Begins had major staying power in theatres in 2005 and performed brilliantly on home video. They started scouting locations for The Dark Knight the very next year.

So considering it's been two years, and there's been little movement for a Superman sequel, I think you have your answer as to whether or not Returns should be deemed "successful".

 

[AgentPat]

Despite the latest technology and new sources of revenue (ancillary or otherwise), I believe the old formula for successful film (domestic box office = or > 2x production budget) still applies. A "successful franchise" usually involve the same formula, typically recouped in the first two to three weeks of release, if not faster, which garners an order for a sequel right away. Some films do it in one week. Now THAT's a "successful" flick.

Be back later. I have pm's to reply to.

 

[musclesforsupes]

Good Late Evening,


I know I have not been online for a while, it is mostly due to the fact that I have a brand new job and I just cannot blog at work or I could get fired.

Okay on to the small bit of news I want to report. This past weekend me, my wife and my best friend drove from Macon, GA to Metropolis IL for the 30th annual Superman Celebration. We stayed till this morning (Sunday) and I just got back home and figured I would share this information with all my fellow Smallville hype members. If you were aware of the Superman Celebration in Metropolis, IL then you know that Allison Mack was one of the celebs attending the convention. Well yours truely, got a chance Saturday afternoon to get an autograph with her, she was very beautiful and everything I use to say about her is totally gone from my memory she is one of the nicest celebrities I have ever met, and she was especially nice for having a late flight into the convention. She signed my Superman Revised Edition book I purchased from Barnes and Nobles a few weeks back, and while I had her in front of me I asked her POINT BLANK as only MUSCLESFORSUPES the following "Do you ever think that Tom Welling will ever be Superman on the big screen" she answered me with the following WITH A SMILE AND A WINK "I don't think so" NOW that is not much news I know, however I wanted to ask her face to face and I did, and you know what I believe her. Sad to say I know, but she seemed to be sincere in her response and that she knows the fans want him as Superman.

Just wanted to tell you all this, you dont have to believe me but guess what I am looking at my autograph and got this news straight to my face and not from some blog website. Just wanted to share the news with you all.

Have a great evening.

Musclesforsupes.

 

[RickO'Connell]

I would think that this belongs in The Talon thread

 

[b24]

did she tell anything major about seseaon 8

 

[musclesforsupes]

She stated in season 8 she would have more scenes showing the use of her powers.