Tom Welling as Superman

[Gmanofsteel]

No. In fact Routh's performance is normally complimented in my vast experience on the Hype.

Even those that HATED Returns tend to like Routh.

Criticizing Routh for being wooden and then praising Tom Welling is the definition of hypocrisy.

In Zack and Miri Routh was hardly wooden

By comparison, most people are comparing Tom's Clark to Routh's Superman. By that comparison Routh was very wooden (IMO). Of course Routh wouldn't be wooden in a comedy. From what I hear comedies are more his thing, although I've yet to see Zack and Miri for myself.

 

[StorminNorman]

You should just really stop posting.

Superman Returns was a reboot, it was a sequel of a franchise that didn't need one.

There next movie is a true reboot - eliminating all connections from past Superman movies.

Using Catwoman is simply stupid considering Warner Bros. has completely changed its handling of properties. Constantine, Batman Begins, V, Superman Returns, 300, The Dark Knight and now Watchmen are all films treated with respect and have nothing in common with Catwoman.

 

[StorminNorman]

By comparison, most people are comparing Tom's Clark to Routh's Superman. By that comparison Routh was very wooden. Of course Routh wouldn't be wooden in a comedy. From what I hear comedies are more his thing, although I've yet to see Zack and Miri for myself.

I have seen no one compare Tom's Clark to Routh's Superman. In fact outside of Smallville and Tom Welling fans, I have seen no one compare Routh to Tom at all.

 

[b24]

^^^ do u even know JJ abarm's script of Superman ???

wound't u call that reboot

also in 90's they werer trying to reboot too so this is the third time they are going for reboot

why don't they make SR's sequel if movie was that succesfull

 

[b24]

^^^ do u even know JJ abarm's script of Superman ???

wound't u call that reboot

also in 90's they werer trying to reboot too so this is the third time they are going for reboot

why don't they make SR's sequel if movie was that succesfull

 

[StorminNorman]

^^^ do u even know JJ abarm's script of Superman ???

wound't u call that reboot

also in 90's they werer trying to reboot too so this is the third time they are going for reboot

why don't they make SR's sequel if movie was that succesfull

Again, stop posting.

I have read it - but it was never made so its completely irrelevant. The various 90's Superman films don't count for this reason. If it was never made, you can't criticize it for being done.

Also, did I say SR was successful (though it did make more than Batman Begins)? No. SR was a good film that was the worst possible Superman film they could of made at the time. It has nothing to do with the quality of the movie itself but how the film killed any potential for a sequel and was so infused with the past films to create any sort of spark that was so great with Batman Begins.

 

[Mikelus]

I had mistakenly gave you credit for Agent Pat's foolishness, I am sorry.

As usual, too much talking and not paying enough attention to detail....

As I have stated, I thought Routh did a great job in Superman Returns but I don't want him for a new Superman either. Henry Cavil, that should be Henry Cavil.

[Stormy mode off]

BTW, is Henry Cavill (doble L).

Your opinion is just that, not fact. Many people think Routh was wooden in SR, other people think he was fine (usually the ones who don't pay attention to details).

And one last thing, stop changing your freaking nick crazy one!

I like StormyNormy better.

 

[Zorex]

Your opinion is just that, not fact. Many people think Routh was wooden in SR, other people think he was fine (usually the ones who don't pay attention to details).

Very cute. Way to insult those who enjoyed Routh's performance, to whatever degree.

 

[Zorex]

And yet, I feel, the same could be done with pictures of Welling.

But speaking of... this is his thread, innit? Isn't there some sort of BR pics ban in a place like this?

 

[b24]

^^ then why are we even discussion BR here

 

[b24]

And yet, I feel, the same could be done with pictures of Welling.

atelast he is more experrsive than BR

 

[Zorex]

I'm... not. I'm tired of this back-and-forth, opinions-as-facts crap. I don't know why I even come in here anymore.

 

[b24]

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/smallville/smallville2.jpg


http://thetvaddict.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/tomwelling.jpg

 

[b24]

if they want established actor next superman movie they should sign JAKE GYLNEWALL he all he needs to do is gain more muscle

 

[StorminNorman]

As usual, too much talking and not paying enough attention to detail....

There is a group of posters who all seem like the same, its easy to get confused. Luckily I rarely suffer from that problem

[Stormy mode off]

BTW, is Henry Cavill (doble L).

Your opinion is just that, not fact. Many people think Routh was wooden in SR, other people think he was fine (usually the ones who don't pay attention to details).

And one last thing, stop changing your freaking nick crazy one!

I like StormyNormy better.

And most of Routh's critics are Tom Welling fans.

Also, I never change my nickname, the Admins do

 

[Mikelus]

And most of Routh's critics are Tom Welling fans.

Also, I never change my nickname, the Admins do

Please, there are people who are not fans of either but say Routh is worse or viceversa, can not generalize.

So now is the Adms' fault? Abuse of power!

They've never changed mine though.

 

[Serene]

Aww, lovely pictures of Superman! Thanks! *right click and save*

This is just pathetic.

Maybe I should find a BR as Superman thread to stalk. Oh wait, that would be CRAZY.

 

[Syncos]

Aww, lovely pictures of Superman! Thanks! *right click and save*

I agree. And the best part about how absolutely amazing those pictures are, is how they're all supposed to emote different feelings some of serenity, some of intensity, and yet routh manages to encapsulate all of these things with a single facial expression.....

 

[Cmill216]

Why the heck am I seeing pictures of Brandon Routh and Jake Gyllenhaal in this thread?

Enough.

 

[LL2K2]

^^^ here's FACT for u

the lasts uperman movie which worked at box office and was actually good was Superman 2 back in 1980.

Nope. STM was the first. It was made for $55 million and eventually grossed over $130 million in 1978. That would be over $300 million today.

Superman II was made for $54 million and grossed just over $100 million in 1981, equivalent to about $250M today.

As for The Devil Wears Prada, SR destroyed it at the BO opening weekend.

And please, don't get me started on that "reboot/reintroduction" crap again. People want "darker" heroes? Puhleeze. The first two Spideys were bright and colorful; however, Spidey 3's darker tone was not loved by the critics. Hulk was bright but campy. Iron Man, from what I've seen, was explosive but lighter in tone than say, The Dark Knight. Sure, TDK was a juggernaut at the BO.

But right now, we need heroes like Superman - bright, colorful, inspirational, bringing hope - on the big screen.

 

[mellyM]

Nope. STM was the first. It was made for $55 million and eventually grossed over $130 million in 1978. That would be over $300 million today.

Superman II was made for $54 million and grossed just over $100 million in 1981, equivalent to about $250M today.

As for The Devil Wears Prada, SR destroyed it at the BO opening weekend.

And please, don't get me started on that "reboot/reintroduction" crap again. People want "darker" heroes? Puhleeze. The first two Spideys were bright and colorful; however, Spidey 3's darker tone was not loved by the critics. Hulk was bright but campy. Iron Man, from what I've seen, was explosive but lighter in tone than say, The Dark Knight. Sure, TDK was a juggernaut at the BO.

But right now, we need heroes like Superman - bright, colorful, inspirational, bringing hope - on the big screen.

God enough already, can all of you just go back to your respective threads and leave this one alone? Its so old, so very old and so very pointless.

 

[Lighthouse]

As for The Devil Wears Prada, SR destroyed it at the BO opening weekend.

I hate jumping into this argument, but this is so ridiculous I almost have no words. Did any rational person expect The Devil Wears Prada to beat Superman Returns at the box office? Really? The comparison is pointless. Of course it beat The Devil Wears Prada. Superman Returns was a 200 million dollar movie marketed to high heaven. The Devil Wears Prada was a 35 million dollar movie used as counter programming, and you know what? It did pretty damn well.

Sorry for totally jumping into the off-topic topic Cmill, I'm done now.

 

[AgentPat]

I think its obvious that "actor availability" is Swimmer's way of saying Welling may be tired of the show.

No kidding! So why did you start trolling here with the "big movie" nonsense? Nobody in this forum was suggesting that afaik. I think you just came here to argue, and I am so freakin' tired of arguing entertainment preferences.

LOL, I never mentioned Routh

Actually, neither did I, but you however have gone on for multiple posts about him.

For the record, my comment was in response to your "big movie star" opinion. You posted a clip from an episode of SV as proof that Welling isn't a big movie star. So does that mean the actor cast as Superman would have to be for you, because I'm quite sure many were not. I'm also quite sure some if not all turned in a few performances during their careers that weren't earth shattering. Heck, one was even fired from a role before being cast as the Man of Steel.

What makes a big movie star? (Rhetorical question.) I dunno, but I do know it aint always acting prowess. And it most certainly is not simply being cast in a "big movie."

Routh, however, did a great job in Superman Returns in spite of being dragged down by the direction.

This is where your facade of impartiality completely disintegrates. SR was directed by Brian ef'n Singer. Did it not occur to you that the scene you chose as "proof" of Welling's inappropriateness for a major motion picture had just a tad to do with the inept direction? Because I'm quite sure the producers wanted to homage Superman: The Movie and failed. That said, the scene in question wasn't that bad. Certainly not as bad as you suggest. This of course is my opinion.

Aw ****, here we go again....

No. It ends here. I'll be taking a long break - again - after this post.

I am not going to get into Routh simply because this is not the place for it

Could have fooled me? You did go on for multiple posts.

I do find Reeve's Superman to be one of the most overrated cinematic adaptations ever.

S:TM is (for me) a cult classic. It's one of those films that we (I) saw as a kid and it hit home. With no disrespect for Reeve however, I've moved on.

I had mistakenly gave you credit for Agent Pat's foolishness, I am sorry.

Keep up the trolling. It suits you well.

As I have stated, I thought Routh did a great job in Superman Returns but I don't want him for a new Superman either. Henry Cavil, that should be Henry Cavil.

Peachy. There are however more appropriate threads to discuss your Superman casting desires.

If Routh is going to be Superman in the next film, it has to be him. If they have another actor in mind for a new Superman movie, have him. If there is NOT an actor set for the next Superman film, I have no problem with Tom Welling - as long as he does not look like Smallville's Clark (I.E. different hair cut, glasses, different wardrobe and no Smallville sets).

Jeeze. See-saw much? Can't you pick a side and stick with it?

You should just really stop posting.

Superman Returns was a reboot, it was a sequel of a franchise that didn't need one.

I don't give a flying crap about SR. Take your own advice about off-topic conversation in this thread.

Using Catwoman is simply stupid considering Warner Bros. has completely changed its handling of properties. Constantine, Batman Begins, V, Superman Returns, 300, The Dark Knight and now Watchmen are all films treated with respect and have nothing in common with Catwoman.

Y'know, I'm pretty sure the writers and producers of SV take the show very seriously and try to do the character justice. I also believe Welling approaches the role with respect and a desire to please his audience, and he'd take that philosophy to a major motion picture, should he be cast in one. If the results of his labors doesn't please you, so be it. Stop watching him and the projects he leads. You're not being forced to watch SV or the next Superman film for that matter, regardless of who is cast.

Again, stop posting.

Again, stop telling people what they can and can't post here. That is up to the mods to decide.

And yet, I feel, the same could be done with pictures of Welling.

But speaking of... this is his thread, innit? Isn't there some sort of BR pics ban in a place like this?

Ah-yup. Fortunately, they've been deleted.

 

[Gmanofsteel]

This is just pathetic.

Maybe I should find a BR as Superman thread to stalk. Oh wait, that would be CRAZY.

we are too mature and level headed for that

I have seen no one compare Tom's Clark to Routh's Superman. In fact outside of Smallville and Tom Welling fans, I have seen no one compare Routh to Tom at all.

They've been compared constantly on several sites and forums ever since Routh was cast, where have you been? lol

 

[Docker2.0]

I hate jumping into this argument, but this is so ridiculous I almost have no words. Did any rational person expect The Devil Wears Prada to beat Superman Returns at the box office? Really? The comparison is pointless. Of course it beat The Devil Wears Prada. Superman Returns was a 200 million dollar movie marketed to high heaven. The Devil Wears Prada was a 35 million dollar movie used as counter programming, and you know what? It did pretty damn well.

Sorry for totally jumping into the off-topic topic Cmill, I'm done now.

Get your ass back in here and post!

Pat! Don't leave! Why can't the old posters come back in here and have fun like we use to without the trolls chasing us off? Come back! Let's make this forum how it was in season 2-4 of Smallville! Let's party like its 2004 all over again!