Tom Welling as Superman

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also i noticed whoever has worked with TW has nothing but good things to say about hime like how professional he is and how he proved his onw input ine the show how hard working he is

even late chritopher reeve was impressed by his professionalism and recentlky one of the good comic book writer Geof john has said good things about TW
 
This is just pathetic.

Maybe I should find a BR as Superman thread to stalk. Oh wait, that would be CRAZY.

Uh?? Are you serious?? Isn't this a public forum for anyone who wants to read it....or is it open ONLY for the Smallville or Welling fans? Shees... So, as far as I know, it is perfectly legal for me to continue reading and posting in this thread if I want. And I have NO doubt that LOTS of people read other threads in other sites.. :cwink: LOL



I agree. And the best part about how absolutely amazing those pictures are, is how they're all supposed to emote different feelings some of serenity, some of intensity, and yet routh manages to encapsulate all of these things with a single facial expression.....

:whatever:

Nah, he looks awesome to me. :o
 
I hate jumping into this argument, but this is so ridiculous I almost have no words. Did any rational person expect The Devil Wears Prada to beat Superman Returns at the box office? Really? The comparison is pointless. Of course it beat The Devil Wears Prada. Superman Returns was a 200 million dollar movie marketed to high heaven. The Devil Wears Prada was a 35 million dollar movie used as counter programming, and you know what? It did pretty damn well.


I'd love to have seen how it would have faired against mama mia though, talk about a battle of the chick flicks :D
 
how about for next superman movie they make Superman older like in his 50's

and sign Tom Hanks to play superman's role

this can work can it??????
 
Nope. STM was the first. It was made for $55 million and eventually grossed over $130 million in 1978. That would be over $300 million today.

Superman II was made for $54 million and grossed just over $100 million in 1981, equivalent to about $250M today.

As for The Devil Wears Prada, SR destroyed it at the BO opening weekend.

And please, don't get me started on that "reboot/reintroduction" crap again. People want "darker" heroes? Puhleeze. The first two Spideys were bright and colorful; however, Spidey 3's darker tone was not loved by the critics. Hulk was bright but campy. Iron Man, from what I've seen, was explosive but lighter in tone than say, The Dark Knight. Sure, TDK was a juggernaut at the BO.

But right now, we need heroes like Superman - bright, colorful, inspirational, bringing hope - on the big screen.

Really? If SR was such a smash sucess why does WB even consider doing a reboot?

Following that logic, by now WB would be going into pre-production for SR sequel...There would be no doubts about that.

Guess what? WB is considering a reboot...

That's no opinion, it's a fact.


Mostpowerful said:
Uh?? Are you serious?? Isn't this a public forum for anyone who wants to read it....or is it open ONLY for the Smallville or Welling fans? Shees... So, as far as I know, it is perfectly legal for me to continue reading and posting in this thread if I want. And I have NO doubt that LOTS of people read other threads in other sites.. LOL

You are absolutely right: people have that right except when anyone here at the Smallville forum posts something in the Superman movies forum, someone at that forum reports about him/her and guess what?

"Prob ban, this member will return in a few days"

You actually said:

"So, as far as I know, it is perfectly legal for me to continue reading and posting in this thread if I want..."

and then you said...

And I have NO doubt that LOTS of people read other threads in other sites..


It means if if i go there, I can read but I can't post about Tom or discuss about Routh's acting or lack of it, right? So I guess you must one of them that reports about everything...aren't you?

So to me sir, that's called refine hypocrisy.



Basically what I do find intriguing is that here's a thread talking about Tom Welling as Superman when most of us, Smallville/Superman fans know about Tom's chances are slimer than finding a needle in a haystack. We know that and by now it's most likely Tom wants some time off after an eight year old tv show and wants to resume his career by doing other projects.

And yet you people keep coming here, talking about Tom's lacking ability to act (:shock :whatever: ) and talk about SR's masterpiece :whatever: when clearly this is not the place to talk about that movie.

Are you that insecure?

Your participation in this thread answers the question.
 
Get your ass back in here and post! :cmad:

Pat! Don't leave! :csad: Why can't the old posters come back in here and have fun like we use to without the trolls chasing us off? Come back! Let's make this forum how it was in season 2-4 of Smallville! Let's party like its 2004 all over again!

Sadly it is 2004 all over again. People are still arguing over Routh vs Welling. :csad:
 
Uh?? Are you serious?? Isn't this a public forum for anyone who wants to read it....or is it open ONLY for the Smallville or Welling fans? Shees... So, as far as I know, it is perfectly legal for me to continue reading and posting in this thread if I want. And I have NO doubt that LOTS of people read other threads in other sites.. :cwink: LOL

I never questioned your right to read or post here.

I'm just pointing out that if I ever started stalking threads that support BR/SR with the sole intention of ripping on the guy and annoying people, then it would be time for me to shut off the computer and call a shrink. That's all.

I'm secure enough with my opinions to not have to resort to that kind of thing. You, however, are rather fanatically all over the place, with various names too from what I gather.
 
No kidding! So why did you start trolling here with the "big movie" nonsense? Nobody in this forum was suggesting that afaik. I think you just came here to argue, and I am so freakin' tired of arguing entertainment preferences. :dry:

I certainly wasn't the one that brought up "no availability means he's going to be in a big movie" nonsense - I was simply stating how incredibly flawed that very logic is.

Actually, neither did I, but you however have gone on for multiple posts about him.

And I do so in RESPONSE to others. If someone says "Brandon Routh sucks" in a thread dedicated to fine cheese, I am likely to respond with "I disagree and Routh entirely" along with "I love a fine slice of guda"

For the record, my comment was in response to your "big movie star" opinion. You posted a clip from an episode of SV as proof that Welling isn't a big movie star. So does that mean the actor cast as Superman would have to be for you, because I'm quite sure many were not. I'm also quite sure some if not all turned in a few performances during their careers that weren't earth shattering. Heck, one was even fired from a role before being cast as the Man of Steel.

I posted that clip not to show that he is not a big movie star, but to show he is not a good actor and doesn't have the talent to star in a big league Superman.

What makes a big movie star? (Rhetorical question.) I dunno, but I do know it aint always acting prowess. And it most certainly is not simply being cast in a "big movie."

The acting prowess tends to help, but it actually can be pretty much simplified to being cast in "big movies". The more success an actor has with big films, the more the audience knows them (and hopefully likes them) and thus the more the studio wants them.

This is where your facade of impartiality completely disintegrates. SR was directed by Brian ef'n Singer. Did it not occur to you that the scene you chose as "proof" of Welling's inappropriateness for a major motion picture had just a tad to do with the inept direction? Because I'm quite sure the producers wanted to homage Superman: The Movie and failed. That said, the scene in question wasn't that bad. Certainly not as bad as you suggest. This of course is my opinion.

Welling has worked with a long list of directors on Smallville and he continues to have very real, very large limits on his abilities. Again, the Bride episode is a perfect example - he was perfect during the action scene, but his dance with Lois was so utterly underwhelming...

Could have fooled me? You did go on for multiple posts.

Because others bring it up. Again - I am not starting any Routh comparison talk. You brought Routh up as a way to justify Tom Welling or something, its completely silly and irrelevant.

S:TM is (for me) a cult classic. It's one of those films that we (I) saw as a kid and it hit home. With no disrespect for Reeve however, I've moved on.

Ignoring Superman:The Movie would be great for any WB project from here on out.

Keep up the trolling. It suits you well.

I don't troll - I simply disagree with you and a few of the other "elite" posters here (that tends to not go over well).

Peachy. There are however more appropriate threads to discuss your Superman casting desires.

I brought up HC not to advocate him, but to merely state I was not a huge Routh guy and thus bringing him to defend Tom isn't effective.

:whatever:

Jeeze. See-saw much? Can't you pick a side and stick with it?

You apparently don't know about the cameo in the Green Lantern movie. The cameo doesn't require an actor, Clark Kent in the script says no lines and simply is seen for a few seconds as the Green Lantern ring flies by. Thus you could get an underwear model in Clark gear and have it work fine - thus Tom Welling (who I have never doubted his PHYSICAL qualifications) would work fine. He doesn't have to act.

I don't give a flying crap about SR. Take your own advice about off-topic conversation in this thread.

Again, but YOU brought up Routh :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Y'know, I'm pretty sure the writers and producers of SV take the show very seriously and try to do the character justice. I also believe Welling approaches the role with respect and a desire to please his audience, and he'd take that philosophy to a major motion picture, should he be cast in one. If the results of his labors doesn't please you, so be it. Stop watching him and the projects he leads. You're not being forced to watch SV or the next Superman film for that matter, regardless of who is cast.

Yes, the writers and producers take SV VERY seriously...like having fake babies, exploding babies and Lana turning into a witch.

Having a desire to please your audience and having the ability to please your audience is very different. I doubt Hayden Christenson wanted to piss off Star Wars fans, that doesn't mean he didn't.

I know I am not forced to watch SV or the next Superman film, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't debate and discuss casting rumors or complain about stupidity within those projects. As a fan who has spend time and money on the series, I have that right.

Again, stop telling people what they can and can't post here. That is up to the mods to decide.

I was doing a public service, but also a service for the poster himself.

we are too mature and level headed for that ;)
:lmao:

They've been compared constantly on several sites and forums ever since Routh was cast, where have you been? lol

Tom Welling has been compared to Brandon Routh about their fitfulness for the role, but I haven't seen anyone saying that Routh's Superman seemed like Tom Welling's Clark Kent or vice versa which was the point I was making.
 
You are absolutely right: people have that right except when anyone here at the Smallville forum posts something in the Superman movies forum, someone at that forum reports about him/her and guess what?

"Prob ban, this member will return in a few days"




It means if if i go there, I can read but I can't post about Tom or discuss about Routh's acting or lack of it, right? So I guess you must one of them that reports about everything...aren't you?

So to me sir, that's called refine hypocrisy.



Basically what I do find intriguing is that here's a thread talking about Tom Welling as Superman when most of us, Smallville/Superman fans know about Tom's chances are slimer than finding a needle in a haystack. We know that and by now it's most likely Tom wants some time off after an eight year old tv show and wants to resume his career by doing other projects.

And yet you people keep coming here, talking about Tom's lacking ability to act (:shock :whatever: ) and talk about SR's masterpiece :whatever: when clearly this is not the place to talk about that movie.

Are you that insecure?

Your participation in this thread answers the question.

They might have deserved that... It is the mods job to decide that. And I read this thread because it's entertaining, plus some people brought Routh up into it (usually to bash him, btw...), so it picked my interest as a fan of his. And I haven't even said anything bad or insulting towards Welling or his acting abilities so far, so..


this thread entertains me. lol

yup



I never questioned your right to read or post here.

I'm just pointing out that if I ever started stalking threads that support BR/SR with the sole intention of ripping on the guy and annoying people, then it would be time for me to shut off the computer and call a shrink. That's all.

I'm secure enough with my opinions to not have to resort to that kind of thing. You, however, are rather fanatically all over the place, with various names too from what I gather.

If my presence here annoys people, well, that's not my problem, like I said, it is A PUBLIC MESSAGE BOARD. However, since when is reading the threads "stalking" as you put it? :huh: I don't get your logic. Actually, your post makes no sense to me. Also, ALL OF US who bother to post on internet message boards about Superman related stuff are fanatical/fans of his, IMO. The vast mayority of people DON'T DO IT, but US fans do cuz we really care. :cwink:

And on the 'various names' thing....LOTS of people do it ALL over the internet, so what's your point. :huh:

LOL
 
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^^^^ ahhahaha bring routh back

sorry i couldn't help it:)

bring jason back too
 
I posted that clip not to show that he is not a big movie star, but to show he is not a good actor and doesn't have the talent to star in a big league Superman.

Welling has worked with a long list of directors on Smallville and he continues to have very real, very large limits on his abilities. Again, the Bride episode is a perfect example - he was perfect during the action scene, but his dance with Lois was so utterly underwhelming...

I don't troll - I simply disagree with you and a few of the other "elite" posters here (that tends to not go over well).

Again with the same crap... Routh is not a good actor or Welling is just a freaking opinion not a fact. A clip as "proof"? :lmao:
SR is a big clip after clip of terrible wooden acting by Routh and Bosworth (the worst Lois Lane ever) both were horrendously underwhelming. Again, each person has its own SUBJECTIVE opinion about things. There are clips that show how TW does better acting than BR in SR (IMO), but if you prefer bland-uncharismatic acting, good for you. ;)

Troll? Some think you are because of your statements and excessive use of icons, to each its own.
 
Again with the same crap... Routh is not a good actor or Welling is just a freaking opinion not a fact. A clip as "proof"? :lmao:
SR is a big clip after clip of terrible wooden acting by Routh and Bosworth (the worst Lois Lane ever) both were horrendously underwhelming. Again, each person has its own SUBJECTIVE opinion about things. There are clips that show how TW does better acting than BR in SR (IMO), but if you prefer bland-uncharismatic acting, good for you. ;)

Troll? Some think you are because of your statements and excessive use of icons, to each its own.

Good acting and bad acting is not necessarily subjective - there is an actual definition of "good acting" and "bad acting".

Its like writing. People can like bad writing, but that doesn't mean the writing isn't poor. People can enjoy poor acting (I mean Nic Cage has a career, yes?)

But again, I am not a Routh guy - I am simply a Routh over Welling guy. The two are greatly different.
 
You are absolutely right: people have that right except when anyone here at the Smallville forum posts something in the Superman movies forum, someone at that forum reports about him/her and guess what?

"Prob ban, this member will return in a few days"

That is a completely ridiculous statement. :o
 
Good acting and bad acting is not necessarily subjective - there is an actual definition of "good acting" and "bad acting".

Its like writing. People can like bad writing, but that doesn't mean the writing isn't poor. People can enjoy poor acting (I mean Nic Cage has a career, yes?)

But again, I am not a Routh guy - I am simply a Routh over Welling guy. The two are greatly different.

Welling's Clark has a defined characterization. Perhaps you don't like that characterization. But Welling has had fantastic moments outside of that characterization which have proven his acting abilities to me.

Apparently he hasn't to you. That's an opinion. Which is most certainly subjective.
 
I'm really not sure why Routh or Cavill or anybody else is being talked about in this thread. This is the Smallville section and the thread is titled Tom Welling is Superman.
 
Showtime said:
That is a completely ridiculous statement.

It is so a ridiculous statement, it has happenned before: it's no opinion, it's a fact. just ask it to some members.

They might have deserved that... It is the mods job to decide that. And I read this thread because it's entertaining, plus some people brought Routh up into it (usually to bash him, btw...), so it picked my interest as a fan of his. And I haven't even said anything bad or insulting towards Welling or his acting abilities so far, so..

Might deserve that? Explain to me how for an example, AgentPat who does not insult anyone but defends Tom Welling eloquently ends up being banned for a few days simply because she defended him in the Superman movie Forum after so many people bashed Tom in the Superman movie forum...?

Without anyone reporting it to the mods, it would be impossible. it has to be some users with a 10 year old mentality


Bashing Routh? That only happens some occasional Routh fan comes here and says something "Routh is the best, Welling sucks" blah blah crap and even starts posting Routh pictures in this thread when clearly...

Showtime said:
I'm really not sure why Routh or Cavill or anybody else is being talked about in this thread. This is the Smallville section and the thread is titled Tom Welling is Superman.

I rest my case.
 
Get your ass back in here and post! :cmad:

Pat! Don't leave! :csad: Why can't the old posters come back in here and have fun like we use to without the trolls chasing us off? Come back! Let's make this forum how it was in season 2-4 of Smallville! Let's party like its 2004 all over again!

It's the (likely) last season. I hope this forum will explode with Smallville fans over the next few months and we can enjoy/discuss/debate the final ride together.

Since returning from my self-imposed hiatus, I've taken almost everyone off my Ignore list even (although there are a few that will never come off of it). It's pretty ineffective to ignore someone when they tend to get quoted in other responses anyway.

I know Avid pops in now and then, but she's still digging herself out of a huge move and timezone flip. Triplet was having home PC problems. I'm going to have to bribe Pat with Tom-shaped cookies, oops, make that: protein bars :D, to get her to post more regularly though.
 
^^^^ ahhahaha bring routh back

sorry i couldn't help it:)

bring jason back too

Might deserve that? Explain to me how for an example, AgentPat who does not insult anyone but defends Tom Welling eloquently ends up being banned for a few days simply because she defended him in the Superman movie Forum after so many people bashed Tom in the Superman movie forum...?

Without anyone reporting it to the mods, it would be impossible. it has to be some users with a 10 year old mentality


Bashing Routh? That only happens some occasional Routh fan comes here and says something "Routh is the best, Welling sucks" blah blah crap and even starts posting Routh pictures in this thread when clearly...



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I'm no mod here, so I have nothing to explain about that.. And I wasn't the one who posted pics of Routh.. It was the poster at the top of this post. He/she can't stop talking about him or SR, it seems..



'Nuff said.

Likewise..



I'm really not sure why Routh or Cavill or anybody else is being talked about in this thread. This is the Smallville section and the thread is titled Tom Welling is Superman.

Yeah
 
It's the (likely) last season. I hope this forum will explode with Smallville fans over the next few months and we can enjoy/discuss/debate the final ride together.

Since returning from my self-imposed hiatus, I've taken almost everyone off my Ignore list even (although there are a few that will never come off of it). It's pretty ineffective to ignore someone when they tend to get quoted in other responses anyway.

I know Avid pops in now and then, but she's still digging herself out of a huge move and timezone flip. Triplet was having home PC problems. I'm going to have to bribe Pat with Tom-shaped cookies, oops, make that: protein bars :D, to get her to post more regularly though.

Just ignore them. Some people I don't even reply to. I mean, God forbid a mod doesn't do something about this. *glares at Showtime* :cmad: Anyway, with this being the last season, it could be like a reunion of some kind.
 
So......anyone think we'll see Batman on Smallville?
 
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