Tom Welling as Superman

[Kane]

He wouldnt need to be the bumbling Clark disguise with glasses....in the SV universe, G+M have said that Superman is the disguise, Clark Kent will go on to be the same.

Meaning theyll handle him as Superman different from the norm.....somehow.

 

[KalElofKrypton]

He wouldnt need to be the bumbling Clark disguise with glasses....in the SV universe, G+M have said that Superman is the disguise, Clark Kent will go on to be the same.

Meaning theyll handle him as Superman different from the norm.....somehow.

Maybe I'm a little slow, but I don't follow.

 

[Kane]

Traditionally there are three roles:

- Smallville Clark (CK in his usual personality)

- Metropolis Clark (the disguise, bumbling with the glasses)

- Superman (Kal-El of Krypton; America's hero)

In the SV universe, there will be no Metropolis Clark disguise....G+M have stated instead that Superman itself will be the disguise somehow, and regular Clark (Smallville Clark) will continue..

How theyll even pull that off is beyond me... but its pretty messed up.

 

[Kane]

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[AgentPat]

...if he were to play Superman in the movies, would he be able to pull of the bumbling Clark?

Clark in SV hasn't needed to put on that kind of facade yet, so it hasn't been an important detail to show that side of him to the audience. But could Welling do it? Absolutely, there's no doubt in my mind....

Also, after having seen the bloopers on the DVD's, I get the impression he can be quite the goofball when he wants to be.

 

[KalElofKrypton]

Traditionally there are three roles:

- Smallville Clark (CK in his usual personality)

- Metropolis Clark (the disguise, bumbling with the glasses)

- Superman (Kal-El of Krypton; America's hero)

In the SV universe, there will be no Metropolis Clark disguise....G+M have stated instead that Superman itself will be the disguise somehow, and regular Clark (Smallville Clark) will continue..

How theyll even pull that off is beyond me... but its pretty messed up.

Yeah, I'm not too fond of that idea. How it will work, I have no idea. Because it seems that Clark (Smallville) has some pretty Superman-like qualities already. So the only difference will be the glasses. Which would be Lois and Clark or George Reeves all over again.

 

[KalElofKrypton]

Clark in SV hasn't needed to put on that kind of facade yet, so it hasn't been an important detail to show that side of him to the audience. But could Welling do it? Absolutely, there's no doubt in my mind....

Also, after having seen the bloopers on the DVD's, I get the impression he can be quite the goofball when he wants to be.

Oh, if I'm ever in a bad mood...Those bloopers will bring me right up. Some of them are hilarious.

 

[TKodami]

Clark in SV hasn't needed to put on that kind of facade yet, so it hasn't been an important detail to show that side of him to the audience. But could Welling do it? Absolutely, there's no doubt in my mind....

Also, after having seen the bloopers on the DVD's, I get the impression he can be quite the goofball when he wants to be.

AgentPat, your screencaps have me dying for some romantic Clois in Season Six. TW smiling makes me feel all melty inside.

 

[AgentPat]

KalElofKrypton, just to clarify, G&M's comments about how Clark acts were in reference to how he's presented in SV, a show where a costumed Superman does not exist. Yet. Clark Kent is the real deal - he's the real person - in SMALLVILLE. They were distinguishing the character from how he acts later, which at the time was beyond the scope of their show.

Things change.

 

[KalElofKrypton]

KalElofKrypton, just to clarify, G&M's comments about how Clark acts were in reference to how he's presented in SV, a show where a costumed Superman does not exist. Yet. Clark Kent is the real deal - he's the real person - in SMALLVILLE. They were distinguishing the character from how he acts later, which at the time was beyond the scope of their show.

Things change.

Thanks for clearing that up, buddy. Like I said, I can be slow when it comes to this stuff. And for future reference, although you probably will forget, call me Sean.

 

[AgentPat]

AgentPat, your screencaps have me dying for some romantic Clois in Season Six. TW smiling makes me feel all melty inside.

I'm with ya! Lets just get though this summer and see how things pan out. There's a few different directions they can go, but it's all up in the air for the duration (no pun intended.) I'm hoping the writers will be given the go ahead to finally write what everybody has been begging for...

Thanks for clearing that up, buddy. Like I said, I can be slow when it comes to this stuff. And for future reference, although you probably will forget, call me Sean.

No prob. I'll try to remember. I'm lucky I can remember the names of the people I work with LOL.

 

[TKodami]

I'm with ya! Lets just get though this summer and see how things pan out. There's a few different directions they can go, but it's all up in the air for the duration (no pun intended.) I'm hoping the writers will be given the go ahead to finally write what everybody has been begging for...

I've definitely got my fingers crossed for it! The writers did a bang-up job this season, though, of course, there's always room for improvement. Even if romantic Clois doesn't pan out, I think that I'd be content for more great Clois moments. ...Quick, Steve DeKnight! You need to write a least one more Lois-does-Clark's tie scene for Season Six.

And I think it's finally sinking in how long the wait until S5 is released on DVD is going to be. And then the wait til Season Six *actually* starts... I think that you'll see me jump on the TW / Clois fanart bandwagon sometime around July.

 

[AgentPat]

I've definitely got my fingers crossed for it! The writers did a bang-up job this season, though, of course, there's always room for improvement. Even if romantic Clois doesn't pan out, I think that I'd be content for more great Clois moments. ...Quick, Steve DeKnight! You need to write a least one more Lois-does-Clark's tie scene for Season Six.

And I think it's finally sinking in how long the wait until S5 is released on DVD is going to be. And then the wait til Season Six *actually* starts... I think that you'll see me jump on the TW / Clois fanart bandwagon sometime around July.

I love how much they needle each other. It's fun and it's playful. It adds humor to an otherwise VERY dramatic show. And the writers could run with that w/o making it stupid ala L&C. Clark is only just starting to realize Lois has his number ("There are times when I think you don't know me at all, and then other times when you know me better than anybody.") That's good. They're going in the right direction there. Clark's attraction for Lois should grow, even though she will continue to noodle him for being the goofball (key label) farmboy that he is.

G&M have taken a LOT of heat for bringing Lois onto the show so early, but I think it makes a HELL of a lot more sense for Clark to slowly develop an attraction and appreciation for who Lois Lane actually is, instead of falling for her the first time he sees her at the Daily Planet ala S:TM. That was just .... SILLY!

There's a LOT more to these two (three? LOL) than just a visual attraction...

 

[KalElofKrypton]

KalElofKrypton, just to clarify, G&M's comments about how Clark acts were in reference to how he's presented in SV, a show where a costumed Superman does not exist. Yet. Clark Kent is the real deal - he's the real person - in SMALLVILLE. They were distinguishing the character from how he acts later, which at the time was beyond the scope of their show.

Things change.

Although just to clear this up, I was talking about Tom Welling as Superman/bumbling Clark as if he were cast in a movie. If I say anymore, I may confuse myself.

 

[AgentPat]

Although just to clear this up, I was talking about Tom Welling as Superman/bumbling Clark as if he were cast in a movie. If I say anymore, I may confuse myself.

Yup. Understood. I'm thinking we'll eventually see both. It's just a matter of time, money, and demand.

 

[Kane]

Thanks for clearing that up, buddy. Like I said, I can be slow when it comes to this stuff.

All I can tell you for sure is that in the interview they clearly said it was their plan to eventually make 'Superman' the disguise in the future and keep Clark the same; the real deal.

Whether their plans have changed....who knows, but that was confirmed by them as the original idea.

At this point, we cant even be sure if it will be addressed on screen in the final episode or even gone into in decent depth...though peronsally, I wouldnt bet on it.

 

[MJZ]

I love how much they needle each other. It's fun and it's playful. It adds humor to an otherwise VERY dramatic show. And the writers could run with that w/o making it stupid ala L&C. Clark is only just starting to realize Lois has his number ("There are times when I think you don't know me at all, and then other times when you know me better than anybody.") That's good. They're going in the right direction there. Clark's attraction for Lois should grow, even though she will continue to noodle him for being the goofball (key label) farmboy that he is.

G&M have taken a LOT of heat for bringing Lois onto the show so early, but I think it makes a HELL of a lot more sense for Clark to slowly develop an attraction and appreciation for who Lois Lane actually is, instead of falling for her the first time he sees her at the Daily Planet ala S:TM. That was just .... SILLY!

There's a LOT more to these two (three? LOL) than just a visual attraction...

There was that episode in season 4 where she dunked him in the water tank and was messing around with his hair, with Chloe giving a suspicious look.

I liked that and thought it was a bit ballsy.

 

[Scooter]

That would be some hot sex.

 

[AgentPat]

There was that episode in season 4 where she dunked him in the water tank and was messing around with his hair, with Chloe giving a suspicious look.

I liked that and thought it was a bit ballsy.

I loved that scene. I don't have many caps from it though...

^ I need to cap the scene where Lois runs up and ruffles his hair, much to Chloe's chagrin.


I also liked that bit at the beginning with Gen. Lane, where Clark and Lois find out Lois will have to stay in SV and go to SV High because she had flunked out of one of her college classes, or something along those lines...

Damn, that was a funny scene. They were both gutted. LOL!

 

[Michael Corleone]

Yup. Understood. I'm thinking we'll eventually see both. It's just a matter of time, money, and demand.

Do you think there is a desire there though? On Wellings part I mean. Does he want to continue down that road? I don't know I always get the feeling from his interviews that he doesnt want that. Not because he doesnt want to play the part but just the evolution of the show doesnt seem to follow that formula.

I know things change but they still seem to stay true (not very well I know) to the "no tights, no flights" crap. They BEND the hell out of that rule but would they all be willing to go that far?

 

[MJZ]

I loved that scene. I don't have many caps from it though...

^ I need to cap the scene where Lois runs up and ruffles his hair, much to Chloe's chagrin.


I also liked that bit at the beginning with Gen. Lane, where Clark and Lois find out Lois will have to stay in SV and go to SV High because she had flunked out of one of her college classes, or something along those lines...

Damn, that was a funny scene. They were both gutted. LOL!

I think they go great togther. Durance is my favorite Lois.

 

[MJZ]

Do you think there is a desire there though? On Wellings part I mean. Does he want to continue down that road? I don't know I always get the feeling from his interviews that he doesnt want that. Not because he doesnt want to play the part but just the evolution of the show doesnt seem to follow that formula.

I know things change but they still seem to stay true (not very well I know) to the "no tights, no flights" crap. They BEND the hell out of that rule but would they all be willing to go that far?

If they want 7 seasons they're going to have to really start pushing things.

I don't necessarily see them doing a live-action Superman in costume follow-up series *at this point,* but we'll see I guess.

Call it fanboy wishing but I think Welling and them would stay on longer if a good opportunity existed.

Not that he can't get other work and hasn't, but this is pretty much his bread and butter...

 

[Michael Corleone]

If they want 7 seasons they're going to have to really start pushing things.

I don't necessarily see them doing a live-action Superman in costume follow-up series *at this point,* but we'll see I guess.

Call it fanboy wishing but I think Welling and them would stay on longer if a good opportunity existed.

Not that he can't get other work and hasn't, but this is pretty much his bread and butter...

I'd have to agree with you there. I think if they gave him more of a chance to grow he would. I think one of the pitfalls they he has had to deal with is they really dont let him do as much. Granted they have allowed him to do more but they seem to want him to keep that stoic characterization. Not allowing him to move as much and let the actors around him do more comes to mind. I think they should let him become more animated in his performance. Really see what he can do and not just as a redK story or just some middle of the season story. Really let him open up throughout the season and let him craft the character. I mean yes it is Clark Kent and he has limitations on things but that doesnt mean he cant become more of a dynamic character. IF they do that perhaps it could lead to something bigger on the show or maybe him in the suit for at least some of the final season. Hell I dont see why they can't let it go for quite some time more. He is after all only what....19..20 on the show? He still has a lot of stuff to do.

 

[Michael Corleone]

I'd have to agree with you there. I think if they gave him more of a chance to grow he would. I think one of the pitfalls they he has had to deal with is they really dont let him do as much. Granted they have allowed him to do more but they seem to want him to keep that stoic characterization. Not allowing him to move as much and let the actors around him do more comes to mind. I think they should let him become more animated in his performance. Really see what he can do and not just as a redK story or just some middle of the season story. Really let him open up throughout the season and let him craft the character. I mean yes it is Clark Kent and he has limitations on things but that doesnt mean he cant become more of a dynamic character. IF they do that perhaps it could lead to something bigger on the show or maybe him in the suit for at least some of the final season. Hell I dont see why they can't let it go for quite some time more. He is after all only what....19..20 on the show? He still has a lot of stuff to do.

Wow I need to stop using "I think" so much. lol sorry

 

[The Kid]

I agree with your think.

There's a lot more growing up that Clark needs to do before he can of course fullfill his destiny as the superman he becomes later.

He needs to learn how to fly for starters... I don't care much about the "no flight" rule. They broke it even though he wasn't really clark. So I think it's fair that they at least have him learn to levitate a few inches. I love the freedom superman has to go anywhere and although he has that sort of freedom already with his super speed, the scope of it can increase tremendously with flight aswell.

One of the big issues I want them to explore is his trust of his father and his knowledge of his roots, which I'm thinking is what they're doing by giving Lionel all those note-taking siezures with warnings and stuff.

Really, what else could it be? It has to be secrets of his power. Clark still needs to learn what his purpose is and even though Chloe's been practically holding a sign up that says "superhero" it seems like he'll need to learn it from his father like Reeve did too. "You're here for a reason..." "For this reason above all, their capacity for good, I sent them you, my only son."

That might have been the direction they were goingin in with his character, Swan, before he died...

What say you...