Tom Welling as Superman

[Kaboom]

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Stop the fighting, Hakuna Matata: it means no worries.

for the rest of our days...its our problem-free...philosophy.....

 

[RakuMon]

im not looking to advance the debate and i could give a "rodent's hindquarters" who said what, when, why, and how, regardless of whether it was quoted misquoted or not quoted at all.
Person A like Routh.
Person B likes Welling.
Great. Wonderful.

Its like fighting over BK fries and McD's fries. Theyre both fries! but some like one more than the other, but guaranteed regardless of how much I like Bk's i am not going to convince you theyre better than McDs if you like McDs. so why bother trying?!?!?!?!

I prefer BK's fries. McDonalds bastardizes the legacy of potato frying!!!

 

[Brainiac 8]

I prefer BK's fries. McDonalds bastardizes the legacy of potato frying!!!

The problem with McDonald's fries are if you don't eat them within three minutes, they become one big clump of starch.

If you ever watched "Supersize Me" you would never eat fastfood again.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

yeah you might as well just avoid eating the actually McD's food and just shoot up with a syringe full of fryer grease, it's about the equivelant impact on your body....

 

[Kaboom]

i usually stick to wendys....or taco bell...

 

[AgentPat]

What I don't understand is why any of this discussion is seen as fighting? It's OKAY to have preferences in your entertainment and to express it. Fighting is when one person calls another person a moron for having a different opinion. But that's not happening here (yet.) What IS happening shouldn't be, however, and that's posting pictures of RUFUS in a TW thread. CUPCAKE doesn't belong here. Take his interloper self to the SR forums or the demilitarized zone. I got probation for merely posting SV Clark QUOTES in a thread for general Superman quotes in the SR forums. Hello?

If you like TW as Superman, cool. If you hate him as Superman, that's okay too. Speak up. That's what this thread is for. It's NOT for posting images of Brandon freakin' Routh though. Take that schitt out of here. Please?

 

[thebigtree95]

If you like TW as Superman, cool. If you hate him as Superman, that's okay too. Speak up. That's what this thread is for. It's NOT for posting images of Brandon freakin' Routh though. Take that schitt out of here. Please?

Nice sentiment. Agreed 100%.

 

[Serene]

They need to bring The BIG Important BIG THREE full circle to their place in the overall story .

I know this is just poking the hive.. but..

As a fan of this particular incarnation and telling of the tale, it's safe to say that my idea of the BIG THREE is not exactly the same as K8's. In fact, it's probably off by about a third.

My preference, is for the show to end up with the indicators strongly set for who the BIG THREE of the future will be. But right here, right now.. I love THIS show - "Smallville."

One day, perhaps they'll have a show/movie called "Metropolis" with the appropriate BIG THREE for that incarnation - I'm sure I'd love that too.

ETA:
*looks at title of thread*
*sees pictures that clearly have nothing to do with Tom*
*snarls*

 

[triplet]

if their was an icon of somsone pulling their hair out thats what i would put here.

How about this one?

 

[LL2K2]

i still dont get the fighting. some prefer welling. welling either did not want or was not offered the role in SR. Routh took the role. obviously some prefer routh. the movie performed as it did (i am deliberatelly not saying it performed well or poorly as that seem sopen to interpretation). why cant we all just see this as two actors playing the same character in different mediums and never between shall meet? or why cant it be reconciled that its a portrayal at different points in their lives.
more importnalty why must me fight over who did better when its so subjective anyway?
i feel at this point its become an ego thing for the individual poster, who feels compelled to continuing harping on the subject until we all agree with him/her. obviously thats not happeneing, so why can't we all agree just to diagree.

if their was an icon of somsone pulling their hair out thats what i would put here.

I always thought the phrase was "Never the twain shall meet." Is it just me?

Other than that, well stated, Kaboom. *points to sig*

 

[Brainiac 8]

I know this is just poking the hive.. but..

As a fan of this particular incarnation and telling of the tale, it's safe to say that my idea of the BIG THREE is not exactly the same as K8's. In fact, it's probably off by about a third.

My preference, is for the show to end up with the indicators strongly set for who the BIG THREE of the future will be. But right here, right now.. I love THIS show - "Smallville."

One day, perhaps they'll have a show/movie called "Metropolis" with the appropriate BIG THREE for that incarnation - I'm sure I'd love that too.

ETA:
*looks at title of thread*
*sees pictures that clearly have nothing to do with Tom*
*snarls*

I actually agree with you completely here. As is the way this incarnation...this reality goes....the big three doesn't even involve Lois yet. At this stage Lana is for better or worse one point of the triad.

I don't mind this though. Clark needs to be dragged through the trials and tribulations of the heart to grow and learn. All that him and Lana have gone through these past five seasons will only...in the end...make them closer friends and give them a stronger bond, because they will have gone through hell and back together. When you have survived the worst with somebody, it will serve to strengthen that bond of friendship.

Look at me getting all sappy.

 

[Silver Lad]

Well technically, it should only be a big two right now. Lana is usually out of Clark's life at this point and Lois hasnt become a real part of it yet. Hopefully that reflects on the series soon, its the only way for Clark to truely move on.

 

[Hack and Slash]

Well technically, it should only be a big two right now. Lana is usually out of Clark's life at this point and Lois hasnt become a real part of it yet. Hopefully that reflects on the series soon, its the only way for Clark to truely move on.

yup, in the end clark will be together with lois and maybe become superman

 

[AgentPat]

I'm guessing you don't know the history of FanboyXTreme? One of the biggest trolls the hype has ever seen.....I'm surprised he came back after that banning.

Meh. Welcome to the Hype Pickle, a place where "troll" has a pretty loose definition. The person to whom you refer is NOTHING compared to a hateful troll with at LEAST 20 user names, has been banned repeatedly, is back again, and the Hype keeps turning a blind eye to him. Why? I haven't a clue.

 

[Brainiac 8]

Meh. Welcome to the Hype Pickle, a place where "troll" has a pretty loose definition. The person to whom you refer is NOTHING compared to a hateful troll with at LEAST 20 user names, has been banned repeatedly, is back again, and the Hype keeps turning a blind eye to him. Why? I haven't a clue.

Someone that for some reason seems to hate everyone here but still keeps coming around to talk under different alias'.

 

[AgentPat]

Someone that for some reason seems to hate everyone here but still keeps coming around to talk under different alias'.

As I've said before, IP checks are your friend.

 

[BaK]

Umm... errr... uhh...

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/artsentertainment/2003135554_smallville19.html

Whoever you are.

Good stuff..

The thing about secret and what it means to live with it..


3. Clark's inner turmoil. Clark has this HUGE secret that he is trying to hide from the world (having superpowers and all), and it's absolutely agonizing watching him hide it from the ones he loves — just because he's trying to protect them. But we can all relate to Clark. Each and every one of us has a secret that we don't want others to know, that we're afraid if someone found out it might change how they see us. Seeing this played out in "Smallville" absolutely makes your heart go out to Clark.


In the movie, there is like one line about it ! ("It's hard for me.." etc..)

Compared to 5 years of actuall seeing how hard it is - on the show, it makes
it almost an laughable attempt at "explaining" it to the movie viewer..
And I do not blame it on the movie, but on the context of the story, one that just
seems to asume that viewer already walked a thousand miles in Clark's shoes..

That is the "core" of the superman myth - or at least the most interesting
part of it, imo, so no, - not even CR's movies come close to the depths
and the "real stuff" supes is made of, destined to become, and at the same time,
is already there in a brand, new, upgraded way.. (no tights)

 

[Brainiac 8]

As I've said before, IP checks are your friend.

Right you are Pat!

 

[AgentPat]

That's the beauty of a serialized television show; audiences can grow *with* the characters instead of just being told about them.

Take Clark's history with Lana, for example. My memory isn't as good as it used to be, but I don't recall there being much to their relationship beyond a puppy sort of love in the Reeve films - even *with* the diamond ring. But Clark's past with Lana in SV continuity is replete with great depth and emotion. A simple line of exposition such as, "it's not easy being me, keeping secrets" will have much more pathos when applied to Clark's personal angst being an "outsider." Sans a shared past with which the audience can associate, it's just an empty line of dialog without any meaning. I have no pity for characters that haven't demonstrated they're worthy to receive it. My first response in such a situation is to say who cares? Get over yourself. Grow up!

 

[Bruce_Wayne29]

I think the article goes right to the pont: the fact that ppl didn't "relate" to those characters or care too much about them. It's probably the biggest flaw in the movie. And the biggest strength of our show.

 

[KikiDee]

Okay, I know this doesn't specifically have to do with Tom, but I thought it was an interesting interview.

SHAWN ASHMORE OF SMALLVILLE

K: I heard a rumor about you!

S: Oh really? What’s that?

K: I heard a rumor this was happening, and now here you are to confirm that rumor. So one really great WB show, to another great CW show! How does that feel?

S: I feel really, really lucky to be…you know, like it doesn’t always happen like that, so I’m pretty stoked to be going from one great show to the next so--

K: Now, you are Chloe’s love interest. Is that right?

S: Uh, I believe I will be. Yeah.

K: What’s interesting about that is that there’ve been a lot of comparisons drawn between Veronica Mars and Chloe and that Veronica Mars may have been inspired somewhat by Chloe. So, you’re going for all the cute, blonde perky…

S: You know, it’s uh…somebody’s gotta do it. And I am more than willing so…uh, hey! What are you gonna do?

K: Now, I don’t know if you’ve heard this. But there is a fan faction that’s like die-hard… they want Chloe and Clark to get together and they take it very seriously. So do you have bodyguards?

S: Uh, not yet. I’m gonna worry about that when it happens. Hopefully, that’s not going to be an issue, but uh thank you for the warning because I wasn’t so sure.

K: Somebody’s gotta tell you! And I’m not gonna sugarcoat it. They’re gonna love you. But they’re gonna hate to love you because they want her with Clark.

S: Well, you know, I think she’s been pining over him for a long time. So, you know, yeah…we’ll see what happens. Hopefully, I’m not gonna get my butt kicked, but uh we’ll see.

K: So you’re moving to Vancouver for this.

S: I actually live in Toronto, Canada most of the time so I think I’m gonna be kind of be going back and forth. But yeah they shoot in Vancouver. I got lots of family out there so I’m actually really looking forward to spending some time.

K: And what can you tell us about your character?

S: Well, he’s uh basically… I mean Jimmy Olsen is kind of an iconic thing. You know, he’s been around for a long time – little bit of a spin on him, kind of a little bit more of a modern take, but still the same energy. You know, he’s a photographer, wants to be a photographer at the Daily Planet. And you know, he’s just got that really upbeat energy and stuff so uh…maybe a little intimidated by Clark, too, you know…not showing it, but maybe a little bit intimidated so…

K: Well, he is Superman. It’s kind of hard to not be intimidated you know what I’m saying?

S: He’s a big guy.

K: Well, congratulations. Are you a regular next season? Do you know?

S: Uhh, recurring right now so…

K: Do you know how many episodes you’re doing?

S: I think like 7 to 10, something like that.

K: Well congratulations

I love how Shawn says "He's a big guy" You just know he's not talking about the character. That seems to be the response by almost everyone who's worked with him.

 

[Silver Lad]

It would have meant more of Shawn said Tom was playing Superman and not Ksite.

The Chlarker questions are annoying. Poor guy.

Still, some good responses from Shawn to their silly questions. He sounds alright.

 

[Kal-El Reeve]

Its this simple... Dan Harris, and Bryan Singer both admited to this... Tom Welling is this generations Superman.
Back in the 70's-80's it was Chris Reeve, and in the 90's to a less extent it was Dean Cain.
But now this Generations Superman is TOM WELLING!
This movie failed for the simple reason that they made a movie WITHOUT SUPERMAN!
How can you make a Superman movie this generation, and not give this generation Their SUPERMAN, and expect the movie to be a big hit...
I also know alot of people who dont watch the show, and they were pissed when Tom was passed on the role... Why?
Because he simply has become Superman/Clark Kent to this gen, and his Clark is now the standard on how the character should be played.

Like how Chris was in the 70's-80's...

I am gonna say it like this: I am a SUPERMAN fan first and foremost. Not a Tom Welling fan, Christopher Reeve, Dean Cain, Brandon Routh, or anyone else who has taken up the mantle and has played the role over tha past 70 years.

Superman Returns is still making enough money where it will make the 200,000,000 million mark and there will more than likely be a sequel to that movie. Whether Smallville fans want it or not. Tom Welling will go on to have an acting career where he can distance himself from the character. While at the same time be first person since George Reeves to play the character for so long on television.

Smallville does take too many liberties with the mythos, but that is okay for the show because like Lois and Clark, Superboy, The Adventures of Superman, and Both Movie Franchises they are different interpretations. I liked Superman Returns because it was a different interpretation of something that we have all loved for the past 70 years. So what if Doughterty, Harris, and Singer did a movie that has split the fanbase into two different camps.

But as to Tom Welling being this generation's Superman. That is a matter of opinion. The one thing that Smallville's producers say and I think a lot of people forget this one simple thing: This is not about Superman, this is the story of him going towards his destiny. Tom is not Superman, unfortunately.

I am not saying this as a bad thing, but you know this arguement will go on forever like people liking Chris Reeve to George Reeves. Or even messing up Reeve's last name.

As to Welling being this generation's Superman. I am gonna have to take the high road and say that he is not. Everyone pulls the late Chris Reeve saying that he gave him the nod. But I think that Reeve would have given Routh the torch. Besides Welling is more on the level of Jeff East, John Rockwell, John Haymes Newton, and Gerald Christopher because they played the younger Clark Kent.

Besides Dana Reeve did give Brandon approval on that one. And I think her blessing is just a good as Chris' since she was his widow. And one thing I like about Routh is that he is a fan and has respect for the character. Welling does not want to play the adult version, mainly because that means the end of Smallville. But that is not here or there right now.

Routh and Welling both represent the character for this generation but they cannot compare because they play different interpretations of the character.

People like Welling, People like Routh. Me I am more towards Routh for the adult version. Welling is my choice for the younger. But this whole arguement is kinda pointless in my opinion for one simple thing:

People have their own opinion for who is Superman. For the Baby Boomer's its Reeves. For my Generation it's Reeve or Cain, For present time it is either Welling or Routh. It's just a matter of people's tastes.

 

[AgentPat]

Y'know, either C.Lee hasn't been around lately, or the moratorium has been lifted.

Can somebody give us, the regular users of this forum, a definitive answer on this question? Please?

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

People have their own opinion for who is Superman. For the Baby Boomer's its Reeves. For my Generation it's Reeve or Cain, For present time it is either Welling or Routh. It's just a matter of people's tastes.

and to think you couldve just posted that fairly obvious paragraph andd saved yourself the time and effort.....