Sci-Fi Tron Legacy - v2.0

Finally watched this tonight, and as someone else said, I really wish i'd gone to see it in IMAX 3d, as some of the sequences would have been amazing. Loved the movie though, thought a bit more could have been done with the action and story, especially the latter, but the visuals were superb, and what more can be said about the score that hasnt been said already, good stuff, I would definately see a sequel and it hinted at one quite a few times, most notably when an old character re-discovered his old ways.

8/10.
 
Finally watched this tonight, and as someone else said, I really wish i'd gone to see it in IMAX 3d, as some of the sequences would have been amazing. Loved the movie though, thought a bit more could have been done with the action and story, especially the latter, but the visuals were superb, and what more can be said about the score that hasnt been said already, good stuff, I would definately see a sequel and it hinted at one quite a few times, most notably when an old character re-discovered his old ways.

8/10.
 
Does anyone know if BO Mojo calculates the cut the theater takes from ticket sells or not?
I really doubt they have access to all the necessary data for that.

Yeah, I guess that is a good point, unless maybe they have some kind of plug in to tell how much a theater took per week or something, but I doubt it.

That would be a pretty awesome plugin. Cinema chains take a cut based on whatever deal they struck with the distributor. Sometimes it's a flat percentage, sometimes a variable amount with the distributor claiming the lion's share in the first week, and the ratio sliding to the cinemas as the weeks go by. It's a very complex structure from what I gather.
 
Here's a pretty interesting read.

'TRON 3': How to make it better than 'TRON: Legacy'

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http://popwatch.ew.com/2011/03/14/tron-3-teaser-legacy-sequel/

When TRON: Legacy hits Blu-Ray early next month, it will arrive with a ten-minute long bonus video which teases a potential TRON threequel. The video has hit the Internet, and it’s mostly a feast for mythology-heads, taking the form of a pseudo-documentary which traces the fall of ENCOM, the rise of a Banksy-esque band of rebel hackers, and a cameo appearance by one of the cast members of the original TRON. (Check out the full video below.) The teaser, titled “The Next Day,” is definitely intended as a soft set-up for TRON 3.0.

Now, Legacy wasn’t exactly the box office bonanza that Disney was expecting, but it did well enough to possibly justify a sequel. From a qualitative standpoint, the movie was far from perfect — EW’s Owen Gleiberman gave the film a B — but to me, that’s an opportunity. Plenty of franchises don’t hit their stride till the second entry: X-Men, Spider-Man, and Hellboy were all marred by serious problems, but they all led into incredible sequels. With that in mind, let’s look at TRON: Legacy as a nice work of throat-clearing, and consider the five main ways that a potential sequel (TRON: Legacy’s Legacy?) could improve:

1. Less real-world shenanigans
The digital universe of TRON is visually fantastic — simultaneously futuristic and retro. So why is it that both TRON films spend so long dawdling in boring ol’ reality? The original TRON opens with a long, long prologue set in the real world that brings up several go-nowhere plot points — corporate backstabbery! romantic triangle! the notion that video arcades used to look like Studio 54! — that instantly disappear once the film shifts to the digital world. TRON: Legacy weirdly imitated this structure, with an extended opening that basically played as a mini-remake of Batman Begins: same absent-daddy issues, same skyscraper stunts, and Batman‘s Cillian Murphy even stopped by for a cameo. Keep Tron 3 focused on the digital world, and leave the techno-corporate chicanery to Gizmodo.

2. Show us the nooks and crannies of the digital universe
TRON: Legacy mostly avoided delving too far into the actual culture of the digital universe. With one exception: the eye-popping nightclub sequence, which introduced Michael Sheen as a Ziggy Stardust-channeling crimelord and indicated that TRON‘s digi-people enjoy sipping some neon vodka and listening to French techno. Nothing grounds a mythology-heavy action movie like some ambient world-building — recall Star Wars‘s Mos Eisley Cantina, or Hellboy 2‘s Goblin Market.

3. No more long speeches about extremely vague digital theology
It was fun seeing Jeff Bridges return to the TRON franchise, but weirdly, his Kevin Flynn was arguably the least successful element of Legacy. Pitched somewhere between Gandalf and Obi-Wan Kenobi, Flynn was mostly around to provide lengthy nonsensical exposition, with the occasional nonsensical one-liner sprinkled in — “Bio-digital jazz, man!” The last couple Pirates of the Caribbean movies had a similar issue with extensive exposition — if memory serves, roughly half an hour of At Worlds’ End focused on pirate bureaucracy, which turns out is just as boring as normal bureaucracy. Legacy was at its best when it focused on the interplay between the characters and the pure lightshow thrill of the digital universe. Fortunately, this problem is already half-solved, since (SPOILER ALERT) neither Jeff Bridges made it out of TRON: Legacy alive. (Well, probably.) Now, just delete any reference to “isomorphic algorithms” from the TRON 3.0 screenplay, and we’ll be golden.

4. More Olivia Wilde, please
Wilde didn’t really have very much to do in TRON: Legacy. That’s a shame, since the Quorra character was easily the most interesting — a computer program endlessly curious about the real world. Given that Wilde has typically veered towards vampier roles, her casual charm as Quorra was a genuine surprise. Add in the fact that Quorra was supposed to be some sort of digital Messiah, and it’s even stranger that she was mostly relegated to a supporting role. (I am obligated to point out that Wilde is not unattractive.) Since we’re on the subject of “more,” it’s arguably impossible to have too much Boxleitner in a single film.

5. When in doubt, just let Daft Punk go insane
The French robot duo provided TRON Legacy with an essential musical backbone that arguably lifted the whole enterprise — particularly during Legacy‘s eye-popping action scenes. Their soundtrack is addictive. I can’t stop talking about it. I’m listening to it right now. I say, if Disney opts for a threequel, they give Daft Punk carte blanche to go totally bonkers with the sequel soundtrack. Like, Beach-Boys-recording-Smile bonkers.
 
^I think that pretty much sums up the faults of Tron: Legacy perfectly, if they could iron out stuff like this it would be great.

Another thing I found strange after doing some thinking is that was Sam not able to do the things Kevin was in the first movie, like flying recognisers, etc? I hope this could be explained, either way, I would go and see a sequel for sure.
 
this is a different tron world like in the first movie. different rules.
 
I didn't think it spent too long in the real world. The opening prologue was only about 20 minutes.

I agree with points 2 and 3 though.
 
I agree with everything expect for Daft Punk doing the score for Tron 3. I want them to release their fourth album, it's been 6 years now and it is about time. :argh:
 
Disney's 'Tron: Legacy' Is Most-Downloaded Movie of 2011

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/piracy-hot-list-disneys-tron-167286

Turning to the film world, TRON: Legacy has been one of the biggest films in torrent circles since it came out in theaters in December. The film, distributed by Disney, doesn't come out on DVD and Blu-Ray until April 5th, but it tops the most pirated film chart for the second consecutive week. According to TorrentFreak, which tracks the data, the latest installment of The Chronicles of Narnia also debuts as a big-ticket item on torrent websites, and Oscar-winning The King's Speech continues to do good non-business.

Here are the top 10 most pirated films:

1. TRON: Legacy
2. The Next Three Days
3. The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader
4. The Fighter
5. Season of the Witch
6. Drive Angry
7. The King's Speech
8. 127 Hours
9. How Do You Know
10. The Mechanic

Just to keep in mind, James Cameron's Avatar was also on that list just one year ago as #1 and it still became the most bought bluray ever.
 
People are watching Narnia for free? You couldn't pay me to keep watching tht franchise after the first one.

As for the list of fixes for Tron 3, the only one I disagree with is the first point. You sort of need to establish our reality to contrast with the cyber world. Also, what's going on in the real world has a bearing on motives and story in the cyber world. Tron: Legacy and the 10 min short that came out have set up a lot of interesting intrigue in reality. With Cillian Murphy as Dillinger's son, I'd be disappointed if that were left out of the next movie.
 
^Then lets hope people buy the **** out of the BD, I already know a few people who didnt go the cinema to watch it but watched it online and have said they buying it, lets hope this is the case for a lot of others as well.
 
Here are the top 10 most pirated films:

1. TRON: Legacy
2. The Next Three Days
3. The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader
4. The Fighter
5. Season of the Witch
6. Drive Angry
7. The King's Speech
8. 127 Hours
9. How Do You Know
10. The Mechanic
5. Season of the Witch
Season of the Witch
Wow, really? This thing was...this thing.

Also, I think generally piracy has little actual effect on buying of home video. Most people who pirate and don't buy and rent are generally people who probably won't buy or rent regardless of whether the pirate option were there or not.
 
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i think people thought it took too long to get into the digital world because it had been so long since they were there. i thought it had great pacing and think its a good thing they gave enough time to set up the film in the real world. it would have beena shame to just ignore it.
im hoping clu looks better on blu-ray cuz his cgi didnt really blow me away the way i wanted. i think it was the eyes, they shouldnt have looked so...saggy. its like they modeled his face off of jeff bridges now and not how his face looked 20 years ago. clue ended up with the skin above his eyes and below his eyebrows seeming like they modeled it after him in his current age. would have been fine if thats just how clu looked but the flashback scenes from early on still looked funny.
 
I thought Clu looked fine until he spoke, then was the point that he REALLY looked CGI to me, anything else I thought he looked perfect.
 
I thought Clu looked fine until he spoke, then was the point that he REALLY looked CGI to me, anything else I thought he looked perfect.
 
What a dumb article. First of all, the setup in the real world also served as thematic exposition for the issues raised in the movie, namely, that of the use of information, and was also cool as hell. You also need to establish your main character, and Sam just digitizing into the Grid right away would've been bizarre. Sam's moody drive through the streets accompanied by DP music is one of my favorite parts of the movie, too :o

Regarding Flynn...I thought he worked just fine. If memory serves, he only had about one "long" speech in the film during dinner, laying out the backstory. Again, It's actually one of my favorite parts of the movie, where we see why Clu turns on Flynn and Tron being a badass. Maybe I'm a fairy boy, but I got kinda emotional during that scene. And I don't know if this guy was paying attention, but the ISO's, if there were a Tron 3, should play a significant role in the movie, as this kind of technicalities are needed, they can't just be called "the magic beings".
 
yea, i think it was the talking that made it not look so great. the eye thing just didt look like a younger version of jeff bridges is all
 
Nah, it wasn't just when he talked; he looked like a plastic doll wrapped in plastic wrap just in general. It was very off putting CGI, almost disturbing. It scared me when I watched it. I was kinda high, but still.
 
Nah, it wasn't just when he talked; he looked like a plastic doll wrapped in plastic wrap just in general. It was very off putting CGI, almost disturbing. It scared me when I watched it. I was kinda high, but still.

I didn't think it was that bad...

I always just put it off as "a computer copy of Flynn". If you think of it that way, like what CLU actually is, then it is easier to dismiss the "inaccuracy" of it.
 
everyone around Sam in the tron worls is a computer program.
 
I didn't think it was that bad...

I always just put it off as "a computer copy of Flynn". If you think of it that way, like what CLU actually is, then it is easier to dismiss the "inaccuracy" of it.

Young(er) Flynn also looked like that at the beginning in the real world, so that obviously wasn't the intention. And, yeah, it really was pretty bad. I mean, honestly, he looked pretty awful
 
Yeah the facial cgi needs work around the mouth movement area. But it was still a pretty cool thing to see.
 
Young(er) Flynn also looked like that at the beginning in the real world, so that obviously wasn't the intention. And, yeah, it really was pretty bad. I mean, honestly, he looked pretty awful

Really? I thought Young Flynn was pretty dang impressive.
 
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