Tron Legacy

[CBGB]

The good.
- It looked great.
- I liked Jeff Bridges, Michael Sheen and Olivia Wilde.
- The scenes between Sam and his father were good. Credit goes to Mr. Bridges.
- It was filmed in Vancouver, an hour away from me.

The bad.
- The guy who played Sam Flynn wasn't that good.
- Sam gets sucked into this completely alien world, and immediately knows how to kick ass at disc wars.
- Music, while good, was distracting. Especially during dialogue scenes.
- 3D was stupid. "Some of this filmed was shot in 2D, but please keep your glasses on for the entire movie". F*** that.
- CGI Jeff Bridges looked awkward. Impressive though.

Overall, 6/10.

 

[samsnee]

I was bored and very disappointed in the 3-d. It honestly didn't feel like it enhance the movie experience in any way, like Avatar did.

 

[That-Guy]

Neo in The Matrix was better portrayed than Sam in this film. He was less bland and had more dimension. Same with Ellen Page in Inception. I disagree with that comparison.

That's just like, your opinion, man.

 

[Spider-Fan]

That's just like, your opinion, man.

It is, but I am clearly not the only person who feels this way.

 

[Darkness Falls]

That's just like, your opinion, man.

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[DarthSkywalker]

Neo in The Matrix was better portrayed than Sam in this film. He was less bland and had more dimension. Same with Ellen Page in Inception. I disagree with that comparison.

Neo was portrayed by Keanu Reeves. He is the essence of bland and one dimensional. What saves the character of Neo is those around them. Somehow Fishburne and Moss get you believing in this bland idiot. Your rooting for their love and belief in him.

The good.
- It looked great.
- I liked Jeff Bridges, Michael Sheen and Olivia Wilde.
- The scenes between Sam and his father were good. Credit goes to Mr. Bridges.
- It was filmed in Vancouver, an hour away from me.

The bad.
- The guy who played Sam Flynn wasn't that good.
- Sam gets sucked into this completely alien world, and immediately knows how to kick ass at disc wars.
- Music, while good, was distracting. Especially during dialogue scenes.
- 3D was stupid. "Some of this filmed was shot in 2D, but please keep your glasses on for the entire movie". F*** that.
- CGI Jeff Bridges looked awkward. Impressive though.

Overall, 6/10.

Of course he does. He grew up on stories of the Grid. He played the games and even had the action figures.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Neo was portrayed by Keanu Reeves. He is the essence of bland and one dimensional. What saves the character of Neo is those around them. Somehow Fishburne and Moss get you believing in this bland idiot. Your rooting for their love and belief in him.

Keanu played that role fairly well. The scene with the Oracle and his chemistry with Fishbourne I felt were way stronger than anything I got from Sam in this movie. I felt Wilde and Bridges played their characters well, but Sam was just too bland. Not saying Keanu's acting in The Matrix was genius, but I felt it had more variety than he is given credit for.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Keanu played that role fairly well. The scene with the Oracle and his chemistry with Fishbourne I felt were way stronger than anything I got from Sam in this movie. I felt Wilde and Bridges played their characters well, but Sam was just too bland. Not saying Keanu's acting in The Matrix was genius, but I felt it had more variety than he is given credit for.

He played the role well because the character is one dimensional and bland. What you are complaining about in Sam, is the basis of Neo's character. I don't know how you can even say there is any variety to his performance.

Personally like Sam, other then his idiotic shouting in combat. He actually has some charisma, is appropriately awkward around his father, and is able to bond with Quorra without without coming off like a pervert.

 

[Spider-Fan]

He played the role well because the character is one dimensional and bland. What you are complaining about in Sam, is the basis of Neo's character. I don't know how you can even say there is any variety to his performance.

You can see Neo's confidence grow as the film goes on, and his inner conflict when deciding whether or not to save Morpheous. That is decent acting.

Personally like Sam, other then his idiotic shouting in combat. He actually has some charisma, is appropriately awkward around his father, and is able to bond with Quorra without without coming off like a pervert.

His charisma didn't feel natural to me. Why is he such a reckless guy? I don't know, the script says so. We could see why Neo wasn't a fun guy, he was a seemingly unimportant desk clerk. Of course he would be seemingly boring (though this I would argue). With Sam, we see his dad leave, and all of a sudden, he is parachuting off buildings. Didn't feel natural.

Again, I know people will assume I hated the movie. I didn't. I just find fault in it, and I feel they needed to do more with Sam than they did. He was too boring.

 

[craigdbfan]

Hedlund is getting criticized for all the things almost every single action hero has fallen victim too.

Also I'd like to point out that Sam for me personally came off as very likable and did have personality even though he "lacked" charisma.

His charisma didn't feel natural to me. Why is he such a reckless guy?

The movie tried showing from the beginning that he was completely lost due to the complete lack of guidance from any sort or authentic parental figure instead of having Alan and his grandparents trying to fill the void. I'd like to see someone lose their mother at an early age and then lose his father on top of that when he's basically your father/mother/and brother in a sense and not act reckless. Especially when your parents company is being run by complete a-holes.

Part of it was that he didn't really develop a personality of his own but goes onto develop one he starts familiarizing himself with his father and the world he had created.

He played the part well and you can see that when he first meets Clu and mistakes him for Kevin that he really starts to get hurt by the things he is saying to him. Even in the dinner scene where they are talking about what he's done with his life I couldn't help but feel sort of bad for the character even though he lives off his trust fund he doesn't lead a lavish lifestyle that he could be using the money for.

Instead he isolates himself and becomes a hermit who plays tricks on the company that his father basically created because they've strayed away from every principle that Kevin Flynn stood for.

 

[CBGB]

Of course he does. He grew up on stories of the Grid. He played the games and even had the action figures.

Just because he grew up with stories doesn't mean he can do them. If I read a book or saw a movie about Gladiators, I couldn't survive a battle with one.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

You can see Neo's confidence grow as the film goes on, and his inner conflict when deciding whether or not to save Morpheous. That is decent acting.

You mean the confidence that yields "The One", the most bland superhero I can remember. Once he reaches his zenith, every last bit of charisma is gone. He can't even afford to look you in the eye.

His charisma didn't feel natural to me. Why is he such a reckless guy? I don't know, the script says so. We could see why Neo wasn't a fun guy, he was a seemingly unimportant desk clerk. Of course he would be seemingly boring (though this I would argue). With Sam, we see his dad leave, and all of a sudden, he is parachuting off buildings. Didn't feel natural.

He is reckless because he is brilliant, rich and without one real connection to the world. His mother died when he was young, he lost his father and Grandparents before he could legally drive.

Again, I know people will assume I hated the movie. I didn't. I just find fault in it, and I feel they needed to do more with Sam than they did. He was too boring.

Well I don't find him boring in the least bit. I have lived through Will Turner. I know boring.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Just because he grew up with stories doesn't mean he can do them. If I read a book or saw a movie about Gladiators, I couldn't survive a battle with one.

Have you seen the original? What Flynn can do on the grid?

They are in a place where knowledge is paramount. Being good at games makes you good on the grid.

 

[Spider-Fan]

You mean the confidence that yields "The One", the most bland superhero I can remember. Once he reaches his zenith, every last bit of charisma is gone. He can't even afford to look you in the eye.

The discussion was in The Matrix. Not the sequels. Neo is no longer the character Sam was supposed to be in the sequels. Invaled comparison.

He is reckless because he is brilliant, rich and without one real connection to the world. His mother died when he was young, he lost his father and Grandparents before he could legally drive.

So, all reckless, rich, and brilliant people parachute off buildings? That is not a good explanation.

Well I don't find him boring in the least bit. I have lived through Will Turner. I know boring.

Will Turner was boring, I agree. But, the first Pirates was 50% about Jack. This film was mostly about Sam, so it is less forgivable.

 

[Brem]

I just wanted to throw my opinion in here.

I saw it on Wednesday (yesterday) and I have to say I really enjoyed it. I didn't go to the cinema knowing what to expect, and I was happy with what I saw. I was thoroughly entertained.

I enjoyed the mystery at the start, the action half way through and everything else that came after.

 

[Darkness Falls]

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[DarthSkywalker]

The discussion was in The Matrix. Not the sequels. Neo is no longer the character Sam was supposed to be in the sequels. Invaled comparison.

I am talking about the last five minutes of the Matrix...

So, all reckless, rich, and brilliant people parachute off buildings? That is not a good explanation.

Self-destructive behavior is well documented in the wealthy youth of the world. From Paris Hilton to Wayne Rooney. Sam prefers fast bikes and jumping off building to liquor and cocaine.

Will Turner was boring, I agree. But, the first Pirates was 50% about Jack. This film was mostly about Sam, so it is less forgivable.

Tron Legacy is the story of Frankenstein (Flynn) and his monster (Clu).

 

[Spider-Fan]

I am talking about the last five minutes of the Matrix...

He becomes a messianic being essentially at the end. His "boringness" is supposed to show his elevation to a higher plane. Symbolism.

Self-destructive behavior is well documented in the wealthy youth of the world. From Paris Hilton to Wayne Rooney. Sam prefers fast bikes and jumping off building to liquor and cocaine.

None of those are the same as parachuting off buildings in the city. It's not a great transition to go from average teenager to leaping off a giant building. That is a stark transition, and I feel need smoother build up.

Tron Legacy is the story of Frankenstein (Flynn) and his monster (Clu).

In part, yes. The story is about the Flynn legacy, and how the sins of the father effect the son. The son is to carry out and determine what his father's legacy is. That is mostly what it is about. Sam is a huge part of that. If I don't care about Sam, this major aspect of the film suffers.

 

[craigdbfan]

Self-destructive behavior is well documented in the wealthy youth of the world. From Paris Hilton to Wayne Rooney. Sam prefers fast bikes and jumping off building to liquor and cocaine. egacy is the story of Frankenstein (Flynn) and his monster (Clu).

Lets not forget about another famous billionaire playboy by the name of Bruce Wayne who parades out at night as a ominous bat figure who beats the **** out of crime syndicates and anyone who dares goes against his view of stability in Gotham.

Another case of losing parents at an early age leading to reckless behavior. Don't hear many people ripping on Bruce for this and label it as "no reason and just done because its in the script".

 

[DarthSkywalker]

He becomes a messianic being essentially at the end. His "boringness" is supposed to show his elevation to a higher plane. Symbolism.

Flynn is very much this in Tron Legacy. At no point is he boring. In Dune, Paul is never boring.

None of those are the same as parachuting off buildings in the city. It's not a great transition to go from average teenager to leaping off a giant building. That is a stark transition, and I feel need smoother build up.

It is the basis for Batman for goodness sake. Seeing your AV, that doesn't seem to bother you.

Bruce Wayne is very much a normal kid until his family is tragically taken from him. Sam grows up believing his father is either dead or abandoned him. As tragic, if not more.

Bruce tries to fix his father's city. Sam tries to fix his father's company.

In part, yes. The story is about the Flynn legacy, and how the sins of the father effect the son. The son is to carry out and determine what his father's legacy is. That is mostly what it is about. Sam is a huge part of that. If I don't care about Sam, this major aspect of the film suffers.

If this were true, Flynn would not be necessary for this film.

Lets not forget about another famous billionaire playboy by the name of Bruce Wayne who parades out at night as a ominous bat figure who beats the **** out of crime syndicates and anyone who dares goes against his view of stability in Gotham.

Another case of losing parents at an early age leading to reckless behavior. Don't hear many people ripping on Bruce for this and label it as "no reason and just done because its in the script".

Exactly.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Flynn is very much this in Tron Legacy. At no point is he boring. In Dune, Paul is never boring.

You didn't think he was boring, but clearly many people feel the way I did. It's your right to like his performance, I disliked it.

It is the basis for Batman for goodness sake. Seeing your AV, that doesn't seem to bother you.

Bruce Wayne is very much a normal kid until his family is tragically taken from him. Sam grows up believing his father is either dead or abandoned him. As tragic, if not more.

Difference is, Batman was WELL developed in all the stories, films, etc. Sam's development went from kid to reckless adult without explanation other than his dad left and he was alone. Why is it recklessness and not something else that became of him? We don't know anything about those middle years than he dropped out of college.

If this were true, Flynn would not be necessary for this film.

What are you talking about? Yes, Flynn is needed for the legacy angle of the story to work. It's about Kevin Flynn's legacy that Sam has to live with! Did you see the same movie I did?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

You didn't think he was boring, but clearly many people feel the way I did. It's your right to like his performance, I disliked it.

So your basing your argument on something that you can not possibly quantify?

Difference is, Batman was WELL developed in all the stories, films, etc. Sam's development went from kid to reckless adult without explanation other than his dad left and he was alone. Why is it recklessness and not something else that became of him? We don't know anything about those middle years than he dropped out of college.

What you want is exposition for the sake of exposition. No mas.

How much do we really know about Bruce Wayne in either Batman '89 or Begins other then he is afraid of bats, his parents died and he traveled a bit?

What are you talking about? Yes, Flynn is needed for the legacy angle of the story to work. It's about Kevin Flynn's legacy that Sam has to live with! Did you see the same movie I did?

Your missing my point. If it was Sam's story, Flynn's presence would be unnecessary. It could be Sam v. Clu. Sam is simply a means to an end. A reason for Flynn and Clu to finally do battle.

Sam's lack of "importance" is shown in Flynn's willingness to sacrifice himself for Sam boggles Clu's mind.

 

[That-Guy]

I don't know why some people had such an issue with the parachute thing... some people enjoy base jumping. Are they nuts? Maybe, to some extent, but they do it. Is there some life-altering moment that creates base jumpers? I don't know, but I doubt it. Young, reckless people with no ties to anyone do crazy, dumb sh**. That's all I took out of it.

 

[dark_b]

I don't know why some people had such an issue with the parachute thing... some people enjoy base jumping. Are they nuts? Maybe, to some extent, but they do it. Is there some life-altering moment that creates base jumpers? I don't know, but I doubt it. Young, reckless people with no ties to anyone do crazy, dumb sh**. That's all I took out of it.

i think htey have a problem how it was presented. and the dialoge.

 

[dude stannis]

Honestly, I loved this film to death. Aside from the aside from de-aged Jeff Bridges the effects where fantastic, some of the best I've ever seen.

"bio-digital jazz man". Jeff Bridges was awesome in this movie. I'd like to see him as Jor-El in MOS.