Turtles forever

[Nathan]

Peter Laird needs to get over his *****ey ways and realize he'd be no where or nothing with out the 80's toon or 90's movies.

Seeing the old series portrayed negatively, just cause he hates it, is disgusting. Without it, he'd be nothing.

Doesn't mean he has to like it. Wouldn't it annoy you if you've come up with a concept, but the only way to get it recognized is by dumping it down and kiddying it up?

 

[FrostBite]

Doesn't mean he has to like it. Wouldn't it annoy you if you've come up with a concept, but the only way to get it recognized is by dumping it down and kiddying it up?

Personally, as always, I am pretty sure the creator cares less about what a company did with his creation than his fans do. If they truly hated the idea, they shouldn't have signed off on it, and if they didn't know, then they should have. A cartoon in the 80's wasn't going to be serious, and especially for the time, if it were a cartoon it was going to be for children.

Not to mention Laird was speaking about the sale of the Ninja Turtles, and really, he didn't seem to care about the old series that much, all he said is it "wasn't what [he] would have done." and that the new series was closer. He also went on to say that Nick probably wouldn't have done what he would either, but that it didn't mean any of these incarnations are necessarily bad, just not what he would have done.

And still I say, that the old cartoon was far better than the new one--and not for it's campiness or comedy. The new series is just poorly done, and if Laird has that as his original intention for the Turtles well... then I'm sorry, but I am glad it was ripped out of their hands and placed in someone with more competency; because the cheese level is off the charts and there is absolutely nothing likable there (except for an oddly catchy theme song.)

So every time someone asks these questions "Wouldn't you hate it if you were a creator and..." I have to respond "No, I wouldn't. In fact I probably wouldn't care at all--and neither do they." The creator of Batman probably didn't hate the campy Batman, Stan Lee probably isn't rocking himself to sleep at night in a puddle of his own tears over Spider-man 3, it's just not what they would have done.

Artists/creators/writers treat these things differently than fans, and even if something disappointments them, it doesn't infuriate them. (Unless you're Alan Moore.) In Laird's case I am sure he understands that he owes a lot to that TV show, and probably even uneasily respects it, which is why he's continued to stay on despite the series staying child oriented for quite sometime.

 

[Nathan]

I admit that the newer cartoons got way too silly and crazy in later seasons. But can you honestly watch the entire first season of the 2k3 cartoon and still say the 80's one is better?

 

[FrostBite]

I admit that the newer cartoons got way too silly and crazy in later seasons. But can you honestly watch the entire first season of the 2k3 cartoon and still say the 80's one is better?

I honestly don't remember much of the first season. I just watched some episodes on demand later last night, so I'd feel like a cocky fool commenting on something I don't know too well.

But comparing the first season of the 80's cartoon to what I watched then, which wasn't too later on (considering they were still fighting Shedder and... you can correct me, because as I said, I don't know much from the newer series--he is eventually defeated) and it was just... horrible. Simply horrible.

I think people see the 80's cartoon far more cheesy and kiddy than it really was. But then again, seeing as I don't remember much, maybe the show, like the newer one, gets much worse as the seasons go on (which is extremely likely.)

I'm just saying, from what I've seen, the 80's show blows it out of the water, and this is coming from someone who despises most of the shows from that time period.

Edit: The episodes I am complaining about being far worse than the 80's? From the 3rd season for the new show (the opening episodes really.) Meaning the show already jumped the shark by season two. -sigh-

Seriously, the old toons not getting their approval from Laird? Fine by me, after all, he was giving approval for this:

 

[3dman27]

in light of nickolodeans purchase of the turtles whats going to happen to turtles forever?

 

[Terminator]

It'll go on as planned.

 

[SUPER SAIYAN D]

in light of nickolodeans purchase of the turtles whats going to happen to turtles forever?

Good question. As far as I know, it's still suppose to be aired on tv sometime next month, but it still doesn't have a distributor for the dvd yet.

 

[RootBeerMaster]

What I like about turtles forever is the 80s turtles villian's really were that Cheezy, I mean look that some of the Alien's that attacked them, and they even had Rocks, Mutant Cows attack them in the 80s so Mutant Food isn't that big of a strech and Neither is April wanting an Excluse with the 2003 turtles that was all dead on.

WHAT MAKES ME ANGRY is they had April just STANDING there and SCREAMING, not CALLING the turtles or RUNNING AWAY, SAYING were are the turtles, and while the turtles did act that Campy and did break the fourth wall, I have episode where Raphel say's don't try this at home, they were NOT that STUPID AS THEY ARE PORTRAYED HERE. And I know Cause I have SEASONS 1 - 4, and SEASONS 6-8 of the 80s turtles in my room right NOW.

I have Alway's HATED TURTLES 2003, IT WAS NEVER ANY GOOD UNTIL the LOST EPISODES and BACK TO THE SEWERS. While I hated the show I liked TMNT the flim. also Notice that in back to the sewers they start acting Funny like in the 80s but in a serious show now, but there still not has funny has the original turtles and notice how the battle shell Changes to look more like the original turtle van. I don't mind him protraying them as a joke I thought the evil food and they way the fought it was Awsome, I just mind that they are being protrayed has EXTREAMLY STUPID, they are NOT THAT STUPID.

 

[SUPER SAIYAN D]

What I like about turtles forever is the 80s turtles villian's really were that Cheezy, I mean look that some of the Alien's that attacked them, and they even had Rocks, Mutant Cows attack them in the 80s so Mutant Food isn't that big of a strech and Neither is April wanting an Excluse with the 2003 turtles that was all dead on.

WHAT MAKES ME ANGRY is they had April just STANDING there and SCREAMING, not CALLING the turtles or RUNNING AWAY, SAYING were are the turtles, and while the turtles did act that Campy and did break the fourth wall, I have episode where Raphel say's don't try this at home, they were NOT that STUPID AS THEY ARE PORTRAYED HERE. And I know Cause I have SEASONS 1 - 4, and SEASONS 6-8 of the 80s turtles in my room right NOW.

I have Alway's HATED TURTLES 2003, IT WAS NEVER ANY GOOD UNTIL the LOST EPISODES and BACK TO THE SEWERS. While I hated the show I liked TMNT the flim. also Notice that in back to the sewers they start acting Funny like in the 80s but in a serious show now, but there still not has funny has the original turtles and notice how the battle shell Changes to look more like the original turtle van. I don't mind him protraying them as a joke I thought the evil food and they way the fought it was Awsome, I just mind that they are being protrayed has EXTREAMLY STUPID, they are NOT THAT STUPID.

You actually liked Back to the Sewers ? Not knocking what you like dude, but back to the sewers was horrible. 4KIDS should've went with their originally idea after the 2k3 toon and made Ultimate TMNT which would've combined all the elements from the Mirage, OT, and the movies. But the geniuses decided to greenlight Back to the Sewers instead. Go figure.

 

[3dman27]

that was a tactical error on the networks part

 

[Terminator]

A representative for 4Kids has announced over at TheTechnodrome.com (and on 4Kids.tv) that "Turtles Forever" will air on CW4Kids, for one time only, on November 21.

Surely, any future viewing would have to be on DVD. And as we have no idea what the status for a DVD release is, this is something you most definitely do not want to miss!

So be sure to check your local listings and tune in November 21!

http://ninja-pizza.blogspot.com/2009/11/turtles-forever-to-air-on-cw4kids-nov.html

 

[Aztec]

What an appropriate time for this film. It features all 4 of the TMNT canons (Mirage, Original Toon, Movieverse, 2K3 Toon) one last time. That kind of clears the path for the Nick TMNT canon. It's the end of an era, well actually several eras, of TMNT.

 

[BlueLightning]

I don't think this was brought here yet so here it comes:

It's a poster for the Turtles Forever event that was cancelled.

 

[3dman27]

nice artwork

 

[Dark Helmet]

Will this at least be on Itunes & or Amazon after wards ?

 

[deathshead2]

Will this at least be on Itunes & or Amazon after wards ?

Doubtful. Because of the deal with Paramount 4kids loses all rights early 2010. So, 4kids can't make any deals like that. So, watch it on tv while you can. Or torrent, or youtube when its online.

Once Paramount gets the show this and the rest of the 4kids show will most likely never be seen again. At least until direct downloads to the computer become more popular than buying dvds. Which will be a few years.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

Teaser trailer is up:

http://www.4kidstv.com/tmnt/tmnt-25th-montage/0025

Spoiler

Loved the shot of the Mirage Turtles towards the end.

 

[3dman27]

nice

 

[Nathan]

I can't watch it. It says the content is unavailable. Probably region restricted.

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

god damn it i want to see this bloody thing

 

[Sam Fisher]

Awasome.

 

[SUPER SAIYAN D]

Teaser trailer is up:

http://www.4kidstv.com/tmnt/tmnt-25th-montage/0025

Spoiler

Loved the shot of the Mirage Turtles towards the end.

Once again, my d--k just got hard !!!

 

[Spikey]

YouTube version

 

[TheVileOne]

Set your DVR's on kill everyone. This could become like some of those obscure animated movies that are aired once and never again.

 

[deathshead2]

Set your DVR's on kill everyone. This could become like some of those obscure animated movies that are aired once and never again.

I can see this being very popular at bootleg dealers at cons in the future. As popular as the Star Wars christmas special, or the Roger Corman Fantastic Four expect its a good movie.