The Dark Knight Two Face Revealed

[DarthSkywalker]

ROTK is the low point of the films. Plays to much on the heart strings. Genuine peril is forgotten.

 

[Nepenthes]

See I don't agree that a sweeping melodramatic story naturally needs that kind of grand acting though. To me it makes it feel so much more contrived. The spectacle of wizards and elves and such would be far more amazing if it seemed like they were interacting with real people. Even Star Wars didn't do it like LOTR. Han Solo, Leia, Luke, the black traitor guy, they all had far more personality and nuance than the majority of the LOTR cast.

I have to admit though that LOTR was very much dependent on families, it needed to be a childrens film too. And children respond best to obvious acting I guess.

 

[Aidan2209]

Star Wars was actually also criticised for its acting, and the prequels go even further to prove that Star Wars is full of grandiose orating rather than more realistic interactions. I agree that the setting doesn't necessarily dictate the acting style, and it would be interesting to see a more modern style of acting (a tentative way of putting it considering the "acting" you often see on TV and the Silver Screen) in a fantasy film (we've already seen it a lot in sci-fi), but I don't think The Lord of the Rings is a story you can tell that way, particularly having read the novel (that's right, I called it a single novel) several times. It's a grand adventure on a vast mythological canvas. I think in talking about acting, where also talking about the style of writing, and I'm in the same boat for that, too. And a more modern and less grandiose approach to the writing and acting in a fantasy film would most likely indicate some sort of parody. Even if it didn't, such a style would be unsuitable for The Lord of the Rings. And that's my point-zero-two dollars.

 

[Anubis Raptor]

Wonder if two face will have his grumbly voice in this film? I would love to see this and will make sure to let you guys know if I here legal word about it.

 

[Gianakin_]

Star Wars was actually also criticised for its acting, and the prequels go even further to prove that Star Wars is full of grandiose orating rather than more realistic interactions. I agree that the setting doesn't necessarily dictate the acting style, and it would be interesting to see a more modern style of acting (a tentative way of putting it considering the "acting" you often see on TV and the Silver Screen) in a fantasy film (we've already seen it a lot in sci-fi), but I don't think The Lord of the Rings is a story you can tell that way, particularly having read the novel (that's right, I called it a single novel) several times. It's a grand adventure on a vast mythological canvas. I think in talking about acting, where also talking about the style of writing, and I'm in the same boat for that, too. And a more modern and less grandiose approach to the writing and acting in a fantasy film would most likely indicate some sort of parody. Even if it didn't, such a style would be unsuitable for The Lord of the Rings. And that's my point-zero-two dollars.

There is fantasy acting and there is fantasy acting. LotR was the 2nd (the bad one) aka people trying too hard to sound noble and... english (I will elaborate on that in another post if need be). And before I get misinterpreted, I love the English language and attitude, love it, love it.

The acting in SW, wooden at parts maybe (MAYBE), but it had variations. The characters felt different just by the way they acted.

 

[Hole Shot]

The acting in SW, wooden at parts maybe (MAYBE), but it had variations. The characters felt different just by the way they acted.

You mean how Hayden Chrisitansen felt more like Oak and Natalie Portman was a little closer to Mahogany?

 

[CaptainBeaver91]

You mean how Hayden Chrisitansen felt more like Oak and Natalie Portman was a little closer to Mahogany?

You win.

 

[Gianakin_]

You mean how Hayden Chrisitansen felt more like Oak and Natalie Portman was a little closer to Mahogany?

Well, you know, at least they tried to portrait something non generic. Whether they succeeded or not is a matter of opinion. I loved the way Christensen played (not crazy about Portman)... heck I like him as an actor in general.

 

[Nightmare]

You mean how Hayden Chrisitansen felt more like Oak and Natalie Portman was a little closer to Mahogany?

Padme: Anakin no!

Anakin: YOU LIED TO ME!

 

[hannya]

Well, you know, at least they tried to portrait something non generic. Whether they succeeded or not is a matter of opinion. I loved the way Christensen played (not crazy about Portman)... heck I like him as an actor in general.

Seen "Shattered Glass"? Christensen is spectacular in that, really excellent. His hamminess in Episode ii and iii is largely down to George Lucas' inability to direct actors. He also drained all the life out of Liam Neeson.

 

[J.Howlett]

No it's not. A lot of the issues with Hayden's "acting" in the Prequels has nothing to really do with acting. It's his voice that's the problem, especially when he does ADR work. Simply put, he sucks at it.

There are times in Episodes II and III where they actually use the production dialogue for a few scenes with him and the overall impression of his acting is vastly superior to the moments when he has to ADR...because when he does it, it changes his performance. It was the same with Natalie Portman.

Watch the picnic scene in Episode II....that was mostly production dialogue and they are so natural with each other. It just works beautifully. The same for their first scene together in Episode III at the Senate. All production dialogue and they're natural as hell with each other. Then, compare that to their next scene on the balcony when it's ADR...their performances suffer a bit. And then, the very next scene on the veranda is different again with a mix of ADR and production sound.

 

[hannya]

No it's not. A lot of the issues with Hayden's "acting" in the Prequels has nothing to really do with acting. It's his voice that's the problem, especially when he does ADR work. Simply put, he sucks at it.

There are times in Episodes II and III where they actually use the production dialogue for a few scenes with him and the overall impression of his acting is vastly superior to the moments when he has to ADR...because when he does it, it changes his performance. It was the same with Natalie Portman.

Watch the picnic scene in Episode II....that was mostly production dialogue and they are so natural with each other. It just works beautifully. The same for their first scene together in Episode III at the Senate. All production dialogue and they're natural as hell with each other. Then, compare that to their next scene on the balcony when it's ADR...their performances suffer a bit. And then, the very next scene on the veranda is different again with a mix of ADR and production sound.

Come on that's nonsense. Lucas spreads hamminess like a virus. He's uncomfortable with actors and that spreads right through the cast. The only one immune to it was Ian McDiarmid, who through years of theatre acting has developed the indestructible "Ham Vaccine".
Watch Episode III with the sound turned down and then marvel at how Christensen's performance suddenly blossoms.
NOT.

 

[BatFan1986]

You mean how Hayden Chrisitansen felt more like Oak and Natalie Portman was a little closer to Mahogany?

Didn't know that Oak had tearducts...Especially after two movies you think they would have patched up the salt water leak.

 

[DiFabio]

What thread am I looking at? What topic is this?

It's always the same damn, brought up, drawn out discussions isn't it?

You bore me people...

 

[magus]

What thread am I looking at? What topic is this?
It's always the same damn, brought up, drawn out discussions isn't it?

You bore me people...

WAHHHHHHH!!! Why aren't people talking about what I want!!!!

 

[X The Bends X]

no for real though watch the movie life as a house, christensen is really good in that one. great movie.

 

[Gianakin_]

Seen "Shattered Glass"? Christensen is spectacular in that, really excellent. His hamminess in Episode ii and iii is largely down to George Lucas' inability to direct actors. He also drained all the life out of Liam Neeson.

There was nothing hammy about his performance. When I think "hammy", Arnold in B&R comes to mind. Or most of the baddies of the Highlander movies.

And I have followed his career closely. He has great talent for facial expression, his voice sometimes falls flat. He's amazed me in every movie he's been in, including the Prequels.

 

[ronny]

So, with Two-Face's look did they use a combination of make-up and digital effects or was it purely computer generated?
Sure, I'm a little disappointed by what happens in regards to this character but I'll still really enjoy seeing him done right in this movie. From the small glance we got at his bad side (And, of course, the concept art) it looks truly revolting. Like overcooked meat. All gristly and flaking off.

 

[HappyCat]

I've been jazzed for the Joker ever since seeing Batman Begins but, to be honest, I can't stand waiting to see Two-Face in motion. That leaked picture was soo horrific and I LOVED IT!!! Dent looks like a zombie!

 

[hame4479]

If the rumors are true then what the hell was all that chatter on Nolan's part about not killing off antagonists. WTF?

 

[KILLING JOKER]

If the rumors are true then what the hell was all that chatter on Nolan's part about not killing off antagonists. WTF?

That's what I want to know.

 

[Nightwing1977]

So, with Two-Face's look did they use a combination of make-up and digital effects or was it purely computer generated?

Both. Though it supposely will be more of make up with a little bit of CGI for part of the face that would be too difficult to do with makeup. Or it probably too painful for Eckhardt.

 

[hame4479]

Not to mention the fact that didn't he and goyer have a three movie arc in mind, I swear if he just crammed his ideas for the third flick all into the last half hour of TDK I will be sorely dissapointed.

 

[regwec]

It is probably just Nolan's desire to round things off before he abandons the franchise, which seems slightly selfish.

 

[inlers87]

Although I hardly ever actually post, I've frequented these boards for years and thoroughly enjoy listening to like-minded individuals argue the finer points of some of our favorite franchises. That being said, I have to get in on this.

Where, if anyone knows, did these rumors originate? I've looked everyone in this thread and the most I've found is "I heard..."

Any help?