I agree thor should be number 1 but that's not the case
aside from the fact we know he doesn't die, hulk was in no trouble at no point in this movie except against hulkbuster which took advantage of hulk being dazed and snapping out of the hex, ultron **** himself when hulk jumped onto the quinjet and then threw ultron like 100 feet into a bus.
I agree thor should be number 1 but that's not the case
aside from the fact we know he doesn't die, hulk was in no trouble at no point in this movie except against hulkbuster which took advantage of hulk being dazed and snapping out of the hex, ultron **** himself when hulk jumped onto the quinjet and then threw ultron like 100 feet into a bus.
thor is being man handled by ultron, this lasts for 5 minutes or so of cut away shots then when it comes back to him he says I am odins son and I am running out of things to say and im stalling then vision swoops in and attacks ultron. this in my mind means thor was pretty helpless. secondly yes he is bullet proof, as ultron flies the quinjet he shoots at hulk first who is unaffected then at thor who it irritates at best then he kills quicksilver with said gun.
id say hulk was the top dog imo, hulk was catching army jeeps and throwing them in the beginning and throwing cars like they were weightless in the hulkbuster fight. thor is 2nd easily, visions power level has been overrated by everyone and so has wandas.
I interpret that differently. Ultron is of course very strong but he doesn't do any damage to Thor and just holds him in place, and Thor isn't even trying to do anything but stalling a that point. Ultron flew in and tackled him away, and when we cut to that again they land and Ultron does his thing for a short time before Thor reveals that he's stalling. If he hadn't been stalling he would at the very least have tried to call Mjolnir to himself.
Hulk is the strongest but I don't think he surpasses Thor in terms of power in this movie. Thor was the one destroying tanks, and doing it without much effort, and he was generally doing more things than Hulk. Thor also has the big power moment of the movie. Hulk is significantly strongest in his rampage scene. As for Hulk with Ultron at the end, he only engages Ultron after his main body is broken down by Thor, Vision and Iron Man.
I interpret that differently. Ultron is of course very strong but he doesn't do any damage to Thor and just holds him in place, and Thor isn't even trying to do anything but stalling a that point. Ultron flew in and tackled him away, and when we cut to that again they land and Ultron does his thing for a short time before Thor reveals that he's stalling. If he hadn't been stalling he would at the very least have tried to call Mjolnir to himself.
Hulk is the strongest but I don't think he surpasses Thor in terms of power in this movie. Thor was the one destroying tanks, and doing it without much effort, and he was generally doing more things than Hulk. Thor also has the big power moment of the movie. Hulk is significantly strongest in his rampage scene. As for Hulk with Ultron at the end, he only engages Ultron after his main body is broken down by Thor, Vision and Iron Man.
Thor, I think, was more pissed off by Quicksilver's thing, whereas Hulk was more concerned about Black Widow being unconscious. Neither character showed any real noticeable reaction to being shot at, it was more how their teammates were effected.
Basically though
Hulk's not really in the film for a great deal, and the only scene where he does anything of note is the Hulkbuster fight. Otherwise he's more just a background thing. Thor's more of a main character than Bruce, so he's given more attention, including feats of power and all of that. I think the biggest display of power from Thor was, in his Scarlet Witch induced vision, how he went out of control and used his lightning to literally obliterate dozens of other asgardians.
Thor, I think, was more pissed off by Quicksilver's thing, whereas Hulk was more concerned about Black Widow being unconscious. Neither character showed any real noticeable reaction to being shot at, it was more how their teammates were effected.
Basically though
Hulk's not really in the film for a great deal, and the only scene where he does anything of note is the Hulkbuster fight. Otherwise he's more just a background thing. Thor's more of a main character than Bruce, so he's given more attention, including feats of power and all of that. I think the biggest display of power from Thor was, in his Scarlet Witch induced vision, how he went out of control and used his lightning to literally obliterate dozens of other asgardians.
It's a quick cut, but yeah I think bullets hit both. Neither character bleeds or is shown bleeding, so I guess you could assume the bullets where ineffective.
It's a quick cut, but yeah I think bullets hit both. Neither character bleeds or is shown bleeding, so I guess you could assume the bullets where ineffective.
They probably get shot but it's never really a big deal about Thor taking any attacks since nothing injures him. It's his offensive stuff that is the focus of attention.
Watched it a couple of hours ago and I absolutely loved it; much more than the first movie!
I can't believe how Whedon managed to put so much stuff in this movie and still make it work, but he did, and did it very well.
The character development is great: you see a bond between the ''big three'', which clearly are the ''cornerstones'' from the team and, at the same time, you see very intimate moments with Natasha, Hawkeye and Banner. All of this is done in a way that it feels everybody shines; I never got the feeling a particular character (or a couple of characters) outshined the others. Also, the action scenes were amazing!
About the God of Thunder... He was mighty, indeed! In my opinion, he had the most impressive scenes and was an absolute beast, from the first action scene to the last one. This time, the way he fought was much more ''superhuman'', much like in his first movie ( I think he looks more powerful in AoU), punching/kicking soldiers and robots with his bare hands as much as with Mjolnir and even doing some lifting, hehe. To me, and I say that as a big fan of the Hulk, Thor was the most impressive character in AoU and looked like the most powerful member. Even without a fighting sequence as cool as the Hulkbuster/Hulk fight (which is a fanboy dream come true), he shined.
About some of the individual fights:
the fight against the newborn Vision (who's a really powerful character in the MCU) isn't actually much of a fight. When Vision flies against Thor, the Odinson punches him away, almost casually.
Against Ultron's final form, it must be known that Ultron acknowledged Thor as threat first, and that's why he engaged Thor one on one. Of course, Ultron got the best of him, but no solo Avengers could face him alone. It was pretty clear only their combined powers would destroy Ultron.
Finally, what excited me the most about Thor was the scene about his visions!
It sets up Ragnarok perfectly and it has a very bizarre feel to it! I was intrigued with Heimdall saying something like ''you're powerful, Odinson, and your power will destroy us all'' (and we see that seven from the trailers, with the lightining bursting from Thor's body, as if he can't control it).
I couldn't get more excited about Ragnarok!
That's it, I guess. I wrote too much!t: Sorry for my bad english.
I have a feeling that Kevin Feige knows TDW isn't a very good movie, and he's going to do something about it. The fact that we still haven't heard any writer or director attached to the project may be good sign that Feige is taking his time to hire the right people for the job. Too bad they can't split the Russo Bros. into two teams so each brother can tackle a different MCU project.
I hope so, the thing that worries me is that TDW had all of the ingredients to be a really good movie and they messed it up so much by meddling in the production, I just hope they pick a director with a clear vision and let him do his thing. I would really like to see Branagh come back personally.
No spoilers, but Thor was great in the film. There was some good humour and his powers were portrayed very well, and very impressively. I'd say he was one of the highlights.
I have a feeling that Kevin Feige knows TDW isn't a very good movie, and he's going to do something about it. The fact that we still haven't heard any writer or director attached to the project may be good sign that Feige is taking his time to hire the right people for the job. Too bad they can't split the Russo Bros. into two teams so each brother can tackle a different MCU project.
So for those that saw it, does Vision's inclusion (along with what he can do) downplay Thor's significance/involvement with the group?
I mean if Vision can lift up Thor's hammer and has a infinity stone attached to his head, then is it safe to assume that Thor wouldn't have been needed to help destroy the floating city? Or was it somewhat established that despite Vision's powers, that Thor's involvement was crucial to Ultron's defeat and Earth's survival?
No....it just makes Vision look awesome but personally think it doesn't detract from what Thor does. He plays a key role (along with the others) at the end.
I think hulk and thor are both shown to be a great deal more powerful in this
like thor finally shown to be bullet proof and the fact he catches a falling car and fies it to safety with a funny consequence. and that part where he hammers the device its similar to the hulk one punching the leviathan as he has a little help from ironman but that's mostly him. so id give thor the feat of destroying a land mass the size of a large city with 1 strike. what I mean about hulk being number 1 is hulk is never in trouble and literally cant be hurt, thor has a greater range of attacks but can be subdued. I think of hulk as like kurse they are limited but what they can do they are ridiculous at, plus hulk has more mobility than curse. id like to see another fight between hulk and thor, if thor was sensible and used his variety he would win but if thor goes head to head trading blows he would lose. also captain America in this film is ****ing ridiculous, he isn't peak human he is borderline super human.
yeah finally the scene between ultron and thor was odd, I mean he just stands there whilst being choked? and waits for vision? but thor is like 2 times as powerful as vision so why he needs his help is beyond me, I think this scene was to show vision using the hammer tbh
Can't we agree Hulk is the strongest avenger, but Thor the most powerful? Hulk vs Thor without Mjolnir seems an open and shut case to me. With Mjolnir things change, of course.
And Cap being superhuman
when he's hanging from the ramp after the city starts lifting into the air, he's able to grab a ledge 2 feet above him whilst holding someone...no peak human could do that haha
I think hulk and thor are both shown to be a great deal more powerful in this
like thor finally shown to be bullet proof and the fact he catches a falling car and fies it to safety with a funny consequence. and that part where he hammers the device its similar to the hulk one punching the leviathan as he has a little help from ironman but that's mostly him. so id give thor the feat of destroying a land mass the size of a large city with 1 strike. what I mean about hulk being number 1 is hulk is never in trouble and literally cant be hurt, thor has a greater range of attacks but can be subdued. I think of hulk as like kurse they are limited but what they can do they are ridiculous at, plus hulk has more mobility than curse. id like to see another fight between hulk and thor, if thor was sensible and used his variety he would win but if thor goes head to head trading blows he would lose. also captain America in this film is ****ing ridiculous, he isn't peak human he is borderline super human.
yeah finally the scene between ultron and thor was odd, I mean he just stands there whilst being choked? and waits for vision? but thor is like 2 times as powerful as vision so why he needs his help is beyond me, I think this scene was to show vision using the hammer tbh
Does anyone know how long Hemsworth has to prep to play Thor? He always looks skinny before filming starts and then boom Thor size. It's annoying reporters don't ask him about that during Interviews. Would love to know how he puts size on so quickly.
Does anyone know how long Hemsworth has to prep to play Thor? He always looks skinny before filming starts and then boom Thor size. It's annoying reporters don't ask him about that during Interviews. Would love to know how he puts size on so quickly.
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t: Sorry for my bad english.
