Age of Ultron Ultron! We Would Have Words With Thee! Official Thor/Chris Hemworth Thread - Part 1

[DarthSkywalker]

Well, based on everything that I've read and seen, it seems as though Thor is not present with the group during the action sequences that takes place in Seoul and Wakanda.

I'm guessing that the only action sequences/scenes Thor will take part in will be in:

1. The opening sequence involving the raid on the Hydra Base.

2. Ultron's first attack on the Avengers in Avengers' Tower.

3. Cap, Thor, and Iron Man confronting Ultron and the Twins at another base.

4. Thor's mini quest across the realms, looking for answers.

5. Thor vs Vision

6. Thor rejoining the rest of the group for the final battle

That's definitely a lot more for Thor to do when you compare it to his role in the first Avengers film.

Also, I wonder if that shot above indicates that Ultron will at some point knock most of the Avengers down, leaving Thor to fight him by himself for awhile.

I think what matters is it seems Thor has a legit purpose here. Loki was the villain of the first film, but Thor almost felt sidelined, even with his brother being the major threat. Here he has a job to do, and gets to do it.

 

[Herolee10]

I think what matters is it seems Thor has a legit purpose here. Loki was the villain of the first film, but Thor almost felt sidelined, even with his brother being the major threat. Here he has a job to do, and gets to do it.

Agreed.

Also, I like the added lightning effect to Thor's hammer to this group shot:

 

[Joesh]

I didn't take what Hemsworth said last year about "seeing the bigger picture" seriously, more so something random that came out because he may have not known what else to say. But the new description is interesting. I wouldn't be surprised if his vision leads him to Thanos - and Thanos appearing at all going by this and Variety's claim last year that he'd have a small role in the film.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Well a Thanos moment seems inevitable considering where the movies are going.

 

[Herolee10]

I've gotten so used to seeing Thor without his armored sleeves that it actually looks strange seeing him with it in other films/shots now.lol

 

[jaqua99]

I disagree look right at the end his face goes from grimacing and teeth gritting to almost composed and determined

I know, and that isn't even for half a second. The point of that shot is to show Ultron's superiority. As far as that scene goes, we know Ultron lands atleast one haymaker across Thor's face. Also, right before Ultron grabs him by the throat, Thor is dropping to his knees. Thor doesn't look any different there than in his fight with Kurse.

Thor shouldn't have anything for Ultron physically, that's how it should be

 

[Ghostcrow13]

I know, and that isn't even for half a second. The point of that shot is to show Ultron's superiority. As far as that scene goes, we know Ultron lands atleast one haymaker across Thor's face. Also, right before Ultron grabs him by the throat, Thor is dropping to his knees. Thor doesn't look any different there than in his fight with Kurse.

Thor shouldn't have anything for Ultron physically, that's how it should be

Well I always said Ultron should knock Thor and Hulk away fairly easily, however seeing as it seems to be a one on one then i think it should be a closer fight with Ultron winning, that Kurse fight sucked so I woudn't want another 1v1 which was just one guy smashing the other for a couple of minutes.

 

[Quasimod0]

Agreed.

Also, I like the added lightning effect to Thor's hammer to this group shot:

They also changed it so that the Hydra guy isnt shooting the wrong way. lol

 

[Joeyjojo72]

It's pretty ****ing amazing how quickly they can make significant changes to these shots. Powerful software (and plenty of long nights for the fx folk).

 

[Ghostcrow13]

They also changed it so that the Hydra guy isnt shooting the wrong way. lol

He actually was never shooting the wrong way, I slowed it down and what was happening was he was turning to face the Avengers and light shined off his gun, which looked like a flash from him firing.

But yeah I think they took it out cos it did look like he was firing the wrong way

 

[ernesth100]

They also changed it so that the Hydra guy isnt shooting the wrong way. lol

Black Widow is about to kick the **** out of him tho.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Those Hydra soldiers are stupid. If I saw that coming for me I'd be running for the hills.

 

[jaqua99]

Well I always said Ultron should knock Thor and Hulk away fairly easily, however seeing as it seems to be a one on one then i think it should be a closer fight with Ultron winning, that Kurse fight sucked so I woudn't want another 1v1 which was just one guy smashing the other for a couple of minutes.

Yeah, I'm just trying to picture it, if Thor's dropping to his knees, it's because of some sort of pain, or shock, as you fall, you get grabbed by the throat, those two factors together make it seem difficult for one to quickly retaliate.

I don't think Ultron should stomp Thor. I think he should overpower him physically, and I think he should be able to wear him down.

Using all of his powers, and abilities I think Thor should be able to "keep up" with Ultron 1 on 1.

 

[Herolee10]

Unless Chris signs on for more films as Thor post "Infinity War", I think this film will probably mark the first and only time that we'll really see Thor taking on threats that originated from Earth (Hydra Soldiers and Ultron) with the remaining threats that we see Chris's version of Thor being from the Nine Realms and Thanos.

 

[BigThor]

I disagree look right at the end his face goes from grimacing and teeth gritting to almost composed and determined

I agree 👌

 

[warriorking]

Yeah, I'm just trying to picture it, if Thor's dropping to his knees, it's because of some sort of pain, or shock, as you fall, you get grabbed by the throat, those two factors together make it seem difficult for one to quickly retaliate.

I don't think Ultron should stomp Thor. I think he should overpower him physically, and I think he should be able to wear him down.

Using all of his powers, and abilities I think Thor should be able to "keep up" with Ultron 1 on 1.

Exactly, Ultron is extremely powerful but we cannot have him throwing Thor around like the Hulk did with Loki..
Thor is a different foe, unlike any Ultron will have ever faced.
Its true due to his indestructible design he will prevail in an extended battle simply due to fatigue and Thor's inability to find and deliver a killing blow..
But to have Ultron throw anyone of Thor's stature around like a Rag doll without him at least being able fight back or put him on his heals at times would make for a pretty boring fight scene....

 

[dr fate]

ultron imo should be more powerful than thor or hulk 1 on 1 and stalemate them 2 on 1 then that makes him a substantial foe. I think the problem with mcu thor is not his powerf level its his feats, what we need to see is thor throwing cars etc. but obviously wheedon isn't interested in doing unnecessary strength feats just to make fanboys happy. but it would raise thor in everyone's esteem if he had some lifting feats to go with his immense durability and striking feats.

 

[ernesth100]

How did Thor fair against Ultron in the comics?

 

[jaqua99]

ultron imo should be more powerful than thor or hulk 1 on 1 and stalemate them 2 on 1 then that makes him a substantial foe. I think the problem with mcu thor is not his powerf level its his feats, what we need to see is thor throwing cars etc. but obviously wheedon isn't interested in doing unnecessary strength feats just to make fanboys happy. but it would raise thor in everyone's esteem if he had some lifting feats to go with his immense durability and striking feats.

I agree. I do think ultron should be able to beat Thor and wear him down. I just think thor will be able to keep up with him, if he goes all out. Ultron shouldn't draw even with thor.. I mean at his best Ultron can beat heralds.. He's easily on thor's tier. Better showings he transcends him in my opinion

 

[jaqua99]

How did Thor fair against Ultron in the comics?

Ultron has beaten avengers teams that include thor, on multiple occasions.

 

[BigThor]

ultron imo should be more powerful than thor or hulk 1 on 1 and stalemate them 2 on 1 then that makes him a substantial foe. I think the problem with mcu thor is not his powerf level its his feats, what we need to see is thor throwing cars etc. but obviously wheedon isn't interested in doing unnecessary strength feats just to make fanboys happy. but it would raise thor in everyone's esteem if he had some lifting feats to go with his immense durability and striking feats.

I've been saying this for years, MCU is not really nerfed he just lacks over the top feats.

He's caught a punch from Hulk and crushed Iron Man's gauntlet's with ease, but that doesn't look as impressive as throwing a bus or catching an airplane.

Ultron has beaten avengers teams that include thor, on multiple occasions.

Thor always jobs when he's with the rest of the Avengers in the comics so that doesn't count.

Honestly Thor's feats in the comics put him above Ultron imo.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Thor always jobs when he's with the rest of the Avengers in the comics so that doesn't count.

Honestly Thor's feats in the comics put him above Ultron imo.

I love when fans just decide these things. Forget what happens in the actual comics. t:

 

[ernesth100]

Well if Ultron can take down The Avengers all together in the comics. I don't think one specific Avenger deserves special treatment against Ultron. Make it like the comics, have Ultron lay waste to the Avengers when he achieves his final form. And only through some sort of miracle, some sort of devine insight, some sort of...Vision can they overcome him. XD

But seriously though, I know Thor's powerful but this is Ultron he has to put every Avenger in there place AT LEAST once.

 

[jaqua99]

Thor jobs to foes that can beat him. Ultron I think is around Thor's level, but a high end Ultron is tough. Some future alternate version was literally no selling a bunch of blasts from a group of powerhouses, including the surfer. Ultron keeps getting more powerful.

As for Thor, I don't think I have the order correct, but given what we saw in the TV spot with Thor vs Ultron, it would be cool if Thor says "is that the best you can do!?" right after they lay waste to a wave of Ultrons. Then that HUGE amount of Ultrons get sent away to destroy a city or something. All the other avengers have to go stop them, while Ultron has his fun and fights Thor 1 on 1, responding to his call out. Regardless of how he does in the fight, if something similar to this is the case, it's a good showing for Thor

 

[warriorking]

I have no problem with Thor being beaten by Ultron One on One...I just want Ultron to have to bring his A game to achieve it.....