Under the hood of the Fantasticar!

[Kelly]

I dunno. Seems like it was a fairly new product at the time.

You can't lure aliens with a Payday bar, though.
Trust me. It just ticks 'em off.

There's nothing worse than a ticked off alien........

 

[Kelly]

The thing about product placement is that it should be subtle. They shouldn't manufacture scenes in order to display the product.

The bit at the motocross event was in character for Johnny as he was a gearhead from way back in issue 1. It allowed for more reasonable product placement.

I have no problem if the Torch flies through Times Square so you see all the billboards.

One thing I did have a problem with was Minority Report. In one scene, Tom Cruise runs through a mall where ads are triggered by sensors reacting to a persons eyes. It was a short scene, but it was there specifically to draw attention away from the Tom's attempts at escape and to the ads that he was seeing. It was disruptive to the flow of the movie and shouldn't have been used.

I agree....

As far as movies.....I guess I don't remember a whole lot about "Minority Report" to be able to comment....

The worst movie I've seen advertising in, the over-advertising was part of the plot"....that was Josie and the Pussycats.......(don't laugh) that was my favorite cartoon growing up, and I was an excited fangirl when I heard they were putting on the big screen.......then I saw the movie......OMG, soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much product placement. In every freakin' scene..................

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I love Reese's Pieces....

And back then most kids did, so was it "product placement" or was it simply what most kids would use to lure an alien out of the closet.....lmao

If I remember correctly . . .

Steven Spielberg wanted and intended to use M&M's, but when they asked permission (and I may have this wrong, but I don't think it was even a matter of money . . . I think SS just wanted to use them with no money going either way) Mars said "no".

So he went to Reeses and we all saw what happened.

That may have actually been the genesis of paid product placement when companies saw how much business they could get from a product being used by characters in a film.

 

[Kelly]

If I remember correctly . . .

Steven Spielberg wanted and intended to use M&M's, but when they asked permission (and I may have this wrong, but I don't think it was even a matter of money . . . I think SS just wanted to use them with no money going either way) Mars said "no".

So he went to Reeses and we all saw what happened.

That may have actually been the genesis of paid product placement when companies saw how much business they could get from a product being used by characters in a film.

I think you are right....because I think thats on a list I read one time of the top 10 biggest mistakes in business.....

But I don't necessarily see that as "product placement"....I guess I see it more as....."thats what a kid would do.....thats what I would have done at that age.....and if you want the audience to know immediately what he is doing.....(in this case, sharing with someone he knows nothing about, the thing that is his prize possession)....then you make sure its something people will recognize....M&M or Reese's Pieces is the perfect prop to use....

 

[Malus]

^ I'd always heard that, too.
But I think it's on the Wikipedia entry that Reese's simply outbid Mars.

 

[Carp Man]

You know I have a very stroung opinion when it comes to product placement in movies. The extreme scene when Johnny comes walking out was wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy over the top, and do not give me the crap about 'oh, that's the way it is at BMX events'. This is not a BMX Extreme event, or a NASCAR race. it's a movie, and when advertisements overtake a scene to the point of distraction, then it is too much. Johnny with the Jiffy Pop in his hand, or the box of Corn Flakes sitting on the kitchen sink, or the Ram logo on the Fantasticar, and other subtle placements is fine. Subtle is the key word. Not smashmouth in your face.

 

[Kelly]

You know I have a very stroung opinion when it comes to product placement in movies. The extreme scene when Johnny comes walking out was wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy over the top, and do not give me the crap about 'oh, that's the way it is at BMX events'. This is not a BMX Extreme event, or a NASCAR race. it's a movie, and when advertisements overtake a scene to the point of distraction. then it is too much. Johnny with the Jiffy Pop in his hand, or the box of Corn Flakes sitting on the kitchen sink, and other subtle placements is fine. Subtle is the key word. Not smashmouth in your face.

But thats what they are portraying.......and its not crap....thats what they look like....and how did it hurt the scene AT ALL to have it look like a real x-game?????? I would be you 100 bucks that you could only have given me the BK board and maybe 1 other sign after you walked out the first time.....I'm not going to ask now because you've seen the thing 100x over and it wouldn't be relevant.....

 

[Kelly]

You know I have a very stroung opinion when it comes to product placement in movies. The extreme scene when Johnny comes walking out was wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy over the top, and do not give me the crap about 'oh, that's the way it is at BMX events'. This is not a BMX Extreme event, or a NASCAR race. it's a movie, and when advertisements overtake a scene to the point of distraction. then it is too much. Johnny with the Jiffy Pop in his hand, or the box of Corn Flakes sitting on the kitchen sink, and other subtle placements is fine. Subtle is the key word. Not smashmouth in your face.

But thats what they are portraying.......and its not crap....thats what they look like....and how did it hurt the scene AT ALL to have it look like a real x-game?????? I would be you 100 bucks that you could only have given me the BK board and maybe 1 other sign after you walked out the first time.....I'm not going to ask now because you've seen the thing 100x over and it wouldn't be relevant.....what about Johnny's sunglasses.....those were sold advertising Fantastic Four in the malls before the movie....and they did an upclose so you could see the insignia of the glasses....THAT IS PRODUCT PLACEMENT.....the advertising on the walls of the x-games was simply like going to an x-game and filming that scene......which if they could.....thats what they would like to do to get the feel of what was going on......

Did we NEED A CLOSEUP of Johnny with the glasses and him turning just so you can see the insignia......NO.....AND THAT IS WHAT MAKES IT A PRODUCT PLACEMENT.....

 

[Malus]

You know I have a very stroung opinion when it comes to product placement in movies. The extreme scene when Johnny comes walking out was wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy over the top, and do not give me the crap about 'oh, that's the way it is at BMX events'. This is not a BMX Extreme event, or a NASCAR race. it's a movie, and when advertisements overtake a scene to the point of distraction, then it is too much. Johnny with the Jiffy Pop in his hand, or the box of Corn Flakes sitting on the kitchen sink, or the Ram logo on the Fantasticar, and other subtle placements is fine. Subtle is the key word. Not smashmouth in your face.

I felt similar til I walked in on some friends actually watching one of these telecasts, and yeah, it looked just like the setting in FF1. No question.

I think they could have dialed it back a bit for "product placement sensitives" but otherwise, it no longer bothers me.

 

[Carp Man]

But thats what they are portraying.......and its not crap....thats what they look like....and how did it hurt the scene AT ALL to have it look like a real x-game?????? I would be you 100 bucks that you could only have given me the BK board and maybe 1 other sign after you walked out the first time.....I'm not going to ask now because you've seen the thing 100x over and it wouldn't be relevant.....what about Johnny's sunglasses.....those were sold advertising Fantastic Four in the malls before the movie....and they did an upclose so you could see the insignia of the glasses....THAT IS PRODUCT PLACEMENT.....the advertising on the walls of the x-games was simply like going to an x-game and filming that scene......which if they could.....thats what they would like to do to get the feel of what was going on......

Did we NEED A CLOSEUP of Johnny with the glasses and him turning just so you can see the insignia......NO.....AND THAT IS WHAT MAKES IT A PRODUCT PLACEMENT.....

I did not have a problem with the closeup on the sunglasses. That did not take away from the scene. I pulled my DVD out and i see, X Box, Pepsi, Oscar Mayer, Dell, Wal-Mart, Activision, Mountain Dew, Couple of beer brands, Sobe, Burger King, and some others. If that is not to many ADVERTISEMENTS in 1 scene, I do not know what is.

 

[Carp Man]

I felt similar til I walked in on some friends actually watching one of these telecasts, and yeah, it looked just like the setting in FF1. No question.

I think they could have dialed it back a bit for "product placement sensitives" but otherwise, it no longer bothers me.

You want reality ? Walk thru the streets I grew up on, at 3 am, and you'll see reality. I don't want reality in my movie, I want to see a movie, not a glorified commerical. Studio execs. are nothing more then glorified pimps, ****ing out their product.

 

[Malus]

You want reality ? Walk thru the streets I grew up on, at 3 am, and you'll see reality.

Did...they hold extreme sporting events there, too? t:
I'm just sayin'...the scene took place at an event that's normally plastered ad nauseum with glaring advertisements. Phony brands would distract me more than name brands aggravate me. Unless they're satirical, and that again would distract me from what's going on.

That being said, I hate that entire sequence anyway and wish it never existed. I wanted to see Johnny souping up his cherished hot rod, not performing motorbike monkey tricks for a coliseum of brain-dead bimbos and blockheads.

Studio execs. are nothing more then glorified pimps, ****ing out their product.

Well, yeah.

Wonder what products they'll place if Indiana Jones IV is ever made?

 

[Grizzly Mac&Cheese]

That car is awesome.

 

[Carp Man]

Did...they hold extreme sporting events there, too? t:
That being said, I hate that entire sequence anyway and wish it never existed.

Well I don't know if you would call it sporting, but is is defently extreme. I liked the sequence after the event, Sue's mommy moment, Ben crushing Johnnys car, just the whole sequence, brought all the things that Make the FF, the FF, together in that 1 scene. The Extreme scene, I could have done without. Wonder whose bright idea that was ? Was more like a brain fart. Looked like something Frost would cook up.

 

[Carp Man]

That car is awesome.

I agree. Can't wait to see it in action. t:

 

[Bubonic]

I suppose it still isn't as bad as cast away with there fed ex thing, or Harold and Kumar go to White Castle. But for the latter you know what your in for.

 

[gerbstat]

Uh, we have. For quite some time:

1949 saw the Marx Brothers in their last official film together Love Happy. In an early example of blatant product placement Harpo is chased across buildings with various advertising billboards. In the end he escapes on Mobil Gas' flying red horse logo.

This was intentional product placement in its purest form. Harpo (who was the actual initiator of the film) was out of funding, and they negotiated this sequence in order to complete the film.

Thankfully, the sequence worked and was very very funny. I liked the Kool penguin...

I'd like to see Johnny promoting Zippo lighters...

 

[Kelly]

This was intentional product placement in its purest form. Harpo (who was the actual initiator of the film) was out of funding, and they negotiated this sequence in order to complete the film.

Thankfully, the sequence worked and was very very funny. I liked the Kool penguin...

I'd like to see Johnny promoting Zippo lighters...

Yeah, but that would be pretty much promoting smoking and I don't see that happening....nor would I want it.

 

[gerbstat]

Yeah, but that would be pretty much promoting smoking and I don't see that happening....nor would I want it.

Not necessarily-

He might use a Zippo to dry off his hand in order to flame on after getting wet. Or, he might use one to illuminate his path during a power blackout. Or, he might be lighting a candle in the wind at a funeral for a friend.

Or not.

 

[Kelly]

Not necessarily-

He might use a Zippo to dry off his hand in order to flame on after getting wet. Or, he might use one to illuminate his path during a power blackout. Or, he might be lighting a candle in the wind at a funeral for a friend.

Or not.

Ummmm...yeah.