Drama USA's Suits - Part 1

As gripping as this season has been my internal voice keeps shouting at the screen "Mike really is a fraud" and trying to prove that he is not or getting the case thrown out is just wrong.

What makes this process worse is how Harvey, Mike and their side are dragging "good" people into making bad choices for selfish reasons and corrupting them. I even felt bad for Trevor but when Mike went after Jimmy and the widow, I was done with rooting for Mike and the gang.

They may be great lawyers and very successful but they are all filthy human beings. Except for Gretchen. I still love her because she is still morally strong.

I really think that Mike and the firm should pay a heavy cost in the resolution of this story arc.

You make good points, but my guess is you're supposed to weight Mike's obvious illegal status to all the good he's done over the last few seasons.

Frankly, I don't feel bad for Trevor. It's his fault Mike is in the situation to begin with, so he doesn't get to act holier than thou.
 
Suits season finale photo preview
hmm if I can make out anything out of some of those photos it looks like Harvey picks up Mike to personally takes him to the prison,where they have a moment together alone,before Mike checks himself in while Harvey is standing alone all sad.
 
[BLACKOUT]Yup, just as I suspected Mike going to prison was the only possible outcome[/BLACKOUT]
 
I'm glad the finale ended the way it did.

Was a little surprised they decided to go the straightforward route with Mike going to jail. I was half expecting a swerve at the very end with Harvey taking Mike's place and going to jail. but, I'm glad they didn't do that.

I was also right in my prediction that the jury would have found Mike not guilty. but again, I'm glad Mike chose to plead guilty and go to jail. At the end of the day, Mike is a fraud and he needed to face punishment. If he had escaped punishment with the not guilty verdict, the show would have essentially reverted backed to the status quo and the story wouldn't have advanced much. We'd just be marking time again until the fraud charge reared its ugly head again.

At least now the story can move forward. I'll bet the next season picks up 2 years later once Mike is getting out of prison to deal with the aftermath. But it will probably be the final season if they do that, because I can't see what more they can do now that Mike has finally been arrested.

Unless of course, they devote the next season dealing with Mike's time in prison. however, I don't think that would be that interesting or compelling.

better to just wind the show down with one more final aftermath/epilogue season.
 
I'm glad the finale ended the way it did.

Was a little surprised they decided to go the straightforward route with Mike going to jail. I was half expecting a swerve at the very end with Harvey taking Mike's place and going to jail. but, I'm glad they didn't do that.

I was also right in my prediction that the jury would have found Mike not guilty. but again, I'm glad Mike chose to plead guilty and go to jail. At the end of the day, Mike is a fraud and he needed to face punishment. If he had escaped punishment with the not guilty verdict, the show would have essentially reverted backed to the status quo and the story wouldn't have advanced much. We'd just be marking time again until the fraud charge reared its ugly head again.

At least now the story can move forward. I'll bet the next season picks up 2 years later once Mike is getting out of prison to deal with the aftermath. But it will probably be the final season if they do that, because I can't see what more they can do now that Mike has finally been arrested.

Unless of course, they devote the next season dealing with Mike's time in prison. however, I don't think that would be that interesting or compelling.

better to just wind the show down with one more final aftermath/epilogue season.

Actually, I think Mike's time in prison could be well spent.

Have you ever heard of "prison lawyers" where inmates, especially those incarcerated wrongly, devote their time to learning law in order to get themselves and others out? Well, Mike's already that.

I can see him actually taking cases in prison and representing fellow inmates in there.

Imagine what kind of powerful friends and enemies Mike can make in prison. Especially the Federal country club type prison he's in.

Also Forstman might be in the same prison. Lots of interesting possibilities there.
 
I'm glad the finale ended the way it did.

Was a little surprised they decided to go the straightforward route with Mike going to jail. I was half expecting a swerve at the very end with Harvey taking Mike's place and going to jail. but, I'm glad they didn't do that.

I was also right in my prediction that the jury would have found Mike not guilty. but again, I'm glad Mike chose to plead guilty and go to jail. At the end of the day, Mike is a fraud and he needed to face punishment. If he had escaped punishment with the not guilty verdict, the show would have essentially reverted backed to the status quo and the story wouldn't have advanced much. We'd just be marking time again until the fraud charge reared its ugly head again.

At least now the story can move forward. I'll bet the next season picks up 2 years later once Mike is getting out of prison to deal with the aftermath. But it will probably be the final season if they do that, because I can't see what more they can do now that Mike has finally been arrested.

Unless of course, they devote the next season dealing with Mike's time in prison. however, I don't think that would be that interesting or compelling.

better to just wind the show down with one more final aftermath/epilogue season.

Actually [BLACKOUT]they already stated there wouldn't be a time jump. Season 6 will open directly where we left off. It'll definitely be interesting to see how they will handle Mike in prison, but I highly doubt they'll keep him there for 2 whole seasons. I'm thinking they get him out by the mid-season finale or something.[/BLACKOUT]
 
Actually [BLACKOUT]they already stated there wouldn't be a time jump. Season 6 will open directly where we left off. It'll definitely be interesting to see how they will handle Mike in prison, but I highly doubt they'll keep him there for 2 whole seasons. I'm thinking they get him out by the mid-season finale or something.[/BLACKOUT]

[BLACKOUT]That's disappointing if true,they could do so much with the time jump,this is very similar to the time when Mike only spent 2/3 episodes as an investment banker[/BLACKOUT]
 
Actually, I think Mike's time in prison could be well spent.

Have you ever heard of "prison lawyers" where inmates, especially those incarcerated wrongly, devote their time to learning law in order to get themselves and others out? Well, Mike's already that.

I can see him actually taking cases in prison and representing fellow inmates in there.

Imagine what kind of powerful friends and enemies Mike can make in prison. Especially the Federal country club type prison he's in.

Also Forstman might be in the same prison. Lots of interesting possibilities there.

Actually [BLACKOUT]they already stated there wouldn't be a time jump. Season 6 will open directly where we left off. It'll definitely be interesting to see how they will handle Mike in prison, but I highly doubt they'll keep him there for 2 whole seasons. I'm thinking they get him out by the mid-season finale or something.[/BLACKOUT]

hmmm.....that could be interesting. guess we'll have to see.

however, I still hope this means the show will be wrapping up soon because I really don't see how they can drag the story on beyond another season.

So, I say, give it one more season or at most 2 more. but that's it. end it on a high note instead of dragging the story out like some others shows have done.
 
I thought the episode was pretty good and resolved the arcs pretty satisfyingly.

It still has that 'The End is Nigh' feeling so I hope they don't drag it past next season.
 
As others have voiced, I also felt satisfied with Mike going to prison. If there is no time jump I really hope Mike doesn't get out of the prison sentence. It would totally rob the audience of the justice they setup by having him go to prison.

Can Mike become a real lawyer while in prison?
 
Suits Boss Breaks Down "Game-Changing" Finale: "We Had to Pull the Trigger"
by Joyce Eng | Mar 2, 2016 11:04 PM EST

[WARNING: The following story contains spoilers about Wednesday's Season 5 finale of Suits. Read at your own risk.]

Orange is the new Mike.

Yup, Mike (Patrick J. Adams) took the two-year prison term deal with Gibbs (Leslie Hope) to protect Harvey (Gabriel Macht) et al on Suits' Season 5 finale. And the biggest twist is that he is actually now behind bars.

Upon learning about the deal, Harvey makes it his mission to get Mike out of it. He has Donna (Sarah Rafferty) locate the jury foreman, who informs Harvey that the jury was going to find Mike not guilty. Wanting to reassure a jittery Mike that he made the right decision, Harvey initially lies to him about the verdict while he and Donna buckle down to try to find a way to cut a new deal with Gibbs. No dice. Harvey finally tells Mike the truth after he asks Harvey to be the best man at his hastily planned, pre-prison wedding to Rachel (Meghan Markle).

And the truth hurts. Mike beats the crap out of Harvey (mostly at the latter's urging), and then decides, right before Rachel walks down the aisle, that he can't go through with the wedding under these circumstances. So instead of hopping into a "Just Married" car, Mike hops into Harvey's car for a ride to Danbury Federal Prison. Before walking through the gates, Mike tells Harvey that it's not his fault and he'd "do it again."

"I think he knows he had to put a stop to this," Adams tells TVGuide.com. "Would it have been good if he was just found not guilty? It would be an interesting show -- well, he's a lawyer now and everyone who watches the show knows he's not, but then it'd just be a lawyer show. I think the show has always been about more than that. This is really gonna expand the show. ... There's something of a hero's journey in [his decision], where someone just has to man up and say there's an out here. He's found a family in these people and the last thing he wants is to have a decision he made out of desperation to be something that rips them all apart. And if he has to take the bullet for two years, then he's gotta do it. I'm really excited to see what that does for Mike from this point on."

Elsewhere, Rachel's dad Robert (Wendell Pierce) appears to be breaking a non-compete to poach from Pearson Specter Litt, but he points out that per PSL's moral clause, any partner can leave if a name partner participates in a crime. The ace in his pocket? Louis' (Rick Hoffman) former protégée Katrina (Amanda Schull) had secretly recorded him admitting that Mike is a fraud. As Mike heads to the big house, Jessica (Gina Torres), Louis and Donna arrive back to a completely empty office.

So how long will we see Mike in prison? Why did it have to happen? Will Mike and Rachel ever get married? Executive producer Aaron Korsh answers our burning questions.

I kept thinking they would find some loophole to get Mike out or renegotiate the deal. Was it always the plan for him to go to prison?
Aaron Korsh:
This was always the plan. We decided at the beginning of the season. We questioned it at times along the way, but never really wavered. If doing something really scares the sh-- out of me, I think that makes it a good idea because it means that it's something that people will probably not expect and on top of that, provide for something new next year. Obviously this will be something that we've never done before. People always say this or that is game-changing, and I'm guilty of that too, but in this case, it really is for our show. We are both very scared and very excited about it.

When you started the show, did you ever envision Mike paying for this at some point?
Korsh: No. When I started the show, I originally wrote it as a spec script. I never in a million years thought it would get made, so I never bothered to think about the consequences. I didn't have a five-year plan. When I wrote the original script, he was never a fake lawyer. He just lied about having gone to Harvard Law and he was gonna be an investment banker. And in that job, if he was great and they found out he didn't go to Harvard, they would've promoted him. [Laughs] They wouldn't have cared. But this was something we came up with at the beginning of the year. We wanted him to get arrested at the end of the first 10 [episodes] and the plan was for him to go to jail.

Did you also plan from the beginning for the verdict to be not guilty? Add more salt to the wound.
Korsh:
At some point, the idea was, should we show the verdict to the audience? You know, you could've shown the piece of paper being thrown in the trash. My preference was if we were going to find out what the verdict is, then Harvey is going to find out what it is and Harvey is going to tell Mike. Then we came up with, what if Harvey lies to Mike? ... We did discuss what [the verdict] should be. We just got so much mileage out of it being not guilty. Harvey tells Donna, Harvey tells Jessica, Harvey tells Mike, Mike tells Rachel. They all have to live with that. The irony is both Rachel and Donna were right to tell their men to have faith in themselves and they didn't. I've been getting a lot of tweets about this, but Rachel, in that scene where she breaks the glass last week, never said to Mike to rat them out. She said, "Have faith in yourself and let it go to verdict." But it seems like everyone who watched that thought Rachel was telling Mike to rat them out.

Faith has been a big theme on the show and in Mike's life. For a guy who had enough faith and confidence in himself to fake it as a lawyer, how much of his decision was because of a lack of faith in the verdict and how much of it was guilt and wanting to do right by his friends and Rachel?
Korsh:
I don't think he was confident about the verdict, but I think a lot of it is guilt. [Rachel] even points out, "Is this your way of punishing yourself?" He says, "Maybe that's part of it." She says, "It seems like all of it." He wants to protect them. He could be found not guilty and they all continue on, but I think he realizes that something else could happen down the road to them. He's trying to take responsibility. I actually wish they hadn't teased in the teasers, "Someone's going to jail." But since they're so used to fooling people, people might not definitely be sure. I had a conversation with my brother a couple of weeks ago. I asked him why he liked Season 5 and he said, "It's relentless, it keeps coming and they can't get out of it." And I said, "What do you think is going happen?" And he said, "You're going to concoct something that gets them out of it." And I thought to myself, "No, we're not!"

I think some people are going to be surprised, but a lot of people will also be happy. There is a segment of fans who are like, "How long can this go on?"
Korsh:
Yes, exactly. That's why we planned it from the beginning [of the season]. It felt like we've really built to this over the years of someone finding out and it's culminating with this case. We had to pull the trigger. And this is a loss for Harvey. He couldn't get him out of it and he lost Mike. It's as emotional for him as it is for Mike and Rachel.

What is Season 6 going to look like? Are we going to see him in prison? Are you going to find a way to get him out of prison early?
Korsh: [Laughs]
We're working on figuring that out right now. It is our plan currently to have Mike be in prison next season. We don't know at the moment when he's going to get out. We haven't gotten there yet. We're not rushing to get him out and we're not jumping ahead in time to when he gets out.

What kind of strain is this going to put on Mike and Rachel? She was adamantly against the deal at first, but she seemed to understand when he called off the wedding.
Korsh:
Gabriel mentioned to me, "What if they didn't get married?" I had originally not wanted them to get married, but ... I heard the arguments to have the wedding and then have him go to prison to give something sweet to the fans in addition to something bitter, so we changed it. The reason I had not wanted the wedding was because it seems better for next year for them not to have gotten married. But I didn't know that we had earned enough of Mike calling off the wedding in this episode. When we reread the script after Gabriel said something to me, I said, "Wait, maybe we have earned it." That was my original inclination ... so we changed it back. ... They're going to be apart for a two-year-ish period of time. That's going to be tougher than not going through with the wedding. She doesn't hold that against him; she understood. It's more that he's going to be in prison that's going to affect them.

What's the status of the firm? They need some bodies in there.
Korsh:
We're going to pick up not long after the events of the finale. You saw they got back and everyone was gone. Our current plan is to pick up with an episode that takes place throughout the first night of Mike being in prison and everyone at the firm finding out everyone's gone and them figuring out what to do and how to adjust to life in their new situations. It's hopefully going to be a different episode of Suits, but still with some emotional turns and hopefully a surprise or two. I know people might not believe this, but even though Mike's in prison, the trial being over means there will be more humor next year. At least on the firm side of things, most of the drama is gone.

Suits returns in the summer.
https://www.tvguide.com/news/suits-finale-postmortem-mike-prison/

'Suits' Finale Postmortem: EP Aaron Korsh on What's Next for
in Prison
Wednesday, March 02, 2016

Well that happened! Someone headed to prison at the end of Suits Season 5 Episode 16, "25th Hour." The finale was an emotional roller coaster with everyone trying to save Mike, his co-workers and the firm.

Beware: Spoilers for the Suits Season 5 finale. If you haven't watched, don't continue!

BuddyTV spoke with Aaron Korsh, creator and executive producer, about the shocking conclusion to the season and where the show goes from here in Season 6.

Will we see Mike's time in prison next season? Or will there be a time jump?

We are not planning on doing a time jump. Each year, we go always go through the same question, should we come back with a time jump? And almost every time we think like, "There's just too much good stuff that could happen right now, right in the immediate aftermath of whatever it is that happened."

I felt like if we're going to send him to prison, let's see him in prison. Let's not hold back on that. The whole purpose of sending him to prison was to say, "Let's see what would happen if we sort of take the show to it's natural conclusion in that aspect of the show and go beyond it." For me, to go beyond it, I'd rather not jump ahead. I'd rather see what's life gonna be like in prison for Mike Ross. We explored it. If we couldn't come up with a story that we thought was compelling, we wouldn't have done it, but we did and we hope it will be good.

Will Mike be helping people with the law in prison?

That might be a small aspect of him in prison. I will say it was the first idea that was pitched to me. ... Most of the people's first thing was, they said, "If Mike goes to jail that the season's going to be jailhouse lawyer," right? For me, I wasn't sort of interested in that. That's not to say we might not-- we might do that on a small basis, but I was more interested in seeing him adapt to life in prison and see how he can manage and survive on a more personal level. There will be some aspect of that, but that was not my first instinct. I think it's a case of splitting the difference.

Mike's plea deal was for 2 years behind bars. Will it actually be two years or could he get out sooner?

We are still working that through. In real life, two years can sometimes be less than two years with good behavior or some other incentive to get you out earlier. I suppose it's also possible that it could be more than two years if you mess up in some form or fashion while you're in there. Once you're inside that place anything can happen. I can say this, we are not planning on getting him out in short order. He's going to be in there for awhile, but we haven't landed yet on what might happen exactly once he gets inside.

The firm is threatened now because of Mike's deal. Will that be the centerpiece of the firm side next season?

Yes, is the short answer. The firm isn't even really threatened, the firm is gone to some degree. Every single person in that firm is gone when they get back. Where did they go? What are they going to do? The truth is when we come back, we're gonna pick up sort of right where we left off.

Mike's going to have to deal with his first night in prison and our people are going to have to deal with the fact that when they walked back into the firm nobody was there. What are they going to do? Is there going to be a Pearson Specter Litt tomorrow? There may not be. And if there isn't, what are they going to do? Are they going to go their separate ways? Are they going to stick together and start a new thing? What exactly is going to happen? And that's going to be answered throughout the course of Season 6.

Suits will return for Season 6 on USA.
 
Well, they went all the way with the finale, it'll be interesting to see how they handle the next season. I hope Harvey gives Gibbs her comeuppance.
 
Gina Torres Lands Lead Role in ABC's Death of Eva Sofia Valdez Pilot

Looks like Gina Torres may soon join the exodus from Pearson Specter Litt: The Suits star has been cast as the title character in an ABC pilot called The Death of Eva Sofia Valdez, our sister site Deadline reports — and if the project goes to series, it could mean the end of Torres’ time on the USA Network drama.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if she decides to call it quits on Suits.

But then, being cast as the title character of the pilot doesn't mean she is actually the lead in the show. The character appears to be dead, so maybe it's like Brenda Strong's character in Desperate Housewives. Torres was playing a role in Revenge last year at the same time as Suits.

But if she did quit, there would be a reasonable explanation for it, as Jessica might decide enough is enough when everyone has left the firm. It could end up just being Spectre Litt.

As for the ending, I guess there was no other way to go except for Mike to go to prison. But I don't know how interesting it would be to have him in jail scenes for the next season. And he can't exactly come back and practise law again later. Would PSL even take him back after all the trouble he caused?
 
Spectre Litt just doesn't have the power that Pearson Spectre Litt does. I would love to see Hardman at the top of the ticket. I love Daniel Hardman, he is such a great character and the actor is awesome.
 
Suits - Season 6 - Erik Palladino, Paul Schulze and Malcolm-Jamal Warner to Recur
Erik Palladino (ER, 666 Park Avenue), Paul Schulze (Nurse Jackie) and Malcolm-Jamal Warner (American Crime: The People vs. OJ Simpson) have booked recurring roles on the upcoming sixth season of USA Network’s drama series Suits.

The series, set in the fast-paced, high stakes world of a top Manhattan corporate law firm, stars Gabriel Macht, Patrick J. Adams, Gina Torres, Rick Hoffman, Sarah Rafferty and Meghan Markle. Season 6 will pick up with Mike (Adams) entering Danbury Prison after accepting a plea deal for conspiracy to commit fraud.

Palladino will play Kevin Miller, Mike’s fellow inmate who he is unsure of whether or not he can be trusted, but as they come to depend on one another, Kevin may become the closest thing Mike has to a friend on the inside. Schulze is Frank Gallo, a fellow inmate hardened by his own time served, Frank Gallo is the first to introduce Mike to life in Danbury Prison. Warner will play Danbury Prison’s Counselor who is tasked with helping inmates survive their time in prison, and putting them on the path to rehabilitation – which in Mike’s case, will require admitting that he’s spent a lifetime cutting corners.
http://deadline.com/2016/04/suits-c...olm-jamal-warner-usa-drama-series-1201737892/
 
I thought it said Frank Grillo. :o
 
Suits Season 6 - Get Ready Promo
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Cant quite put my finger on it ,but something just feels off about this season,also Rachel is becoming more annoying than usual
 
So Damien Darhk has shown up and Harvey Specter is seeking his help. Can't he do his magic on that inmate and have him killed? What happened to Darhk anyway? Did he die at the end of Season 4? I can't even remember the finale.
 
The season premiere was very good but depressing. Mike is going to learn a lot of lessons in prison given how he got played on his first day.

I don't understand how an organization with thousands of people can all collectively leave so quickly. I find it hard to believe that only the tech guy had an independent thought to stay.

Given how low the firm and characters are starting out this season, it will be interesting to see where they end up.
 
Cant quite put my finger on it ,but something just feels off about this season,also Rachel is becoming more annoying than usual

I thought the first two episodes were solid. It feels off because it's something different than we're use to. That was a series game changing move last season. This is one of the few times in the series we pick up immediately after the ending of a previous season. But I'm loving this new side of Jessica. I like Malcolm-Jamal Warner's character and Mike's cellmate.
 

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