The Dark Knight Rises Villains you most want to see in sequels? (Post fan art if yee wish)

[MechaOrga]

Hugo strange is growing on my everyday...

I mean if he really is going to go nutso and start to think he's batman, what a great way to clear the real bats of all of those murders or keep dents secret quiet (or would this be complicating things) all the while working for the police and their new Batman task force leader:

Sarah Essen.

Her inclusion would give gordon an even more prominent role, as he tries to hide his feelings for sarah, be loyal to the bat, AND all the while knowing her one job is to lead this Batman finding task force...that sounds kinda cool!

Lastly, do you think Nolan may tweak or combine characters...Im thinking if you combine Bane and Deadshot, you get an awesome character. Keep the name Bane but make him a suave guy, like Deadshot was out of costume, and lean the costume overall towards Deadshot (since bane looks like a luchador wrestler) and have him start off as an assassin for hire but over the course of the film, his intentions become clear: to rule gotham's underworld.

Bane could also be combined with Black Mask as well, for great results

Just a though and something i wouldn't put past The Nolan...

 

[MechaOrga]

and just to add:

I do think even with this awesome Hugo Strange/Sarah Essen thing in my head, we are still going to get a villain in a costume

(may it be bane/deadshot/catwoman)

Toys must be sold, sorry to say...

 

[The Guard]

This thread makes me want to see Batman movies forever.

I would be all for some combination of Hugo Strange, Catwoman and a freak mob boss, like Penguin or Black Mask, leaning toward Penguin because I think properly adapted, it's a more subtle evolution from gangster to freak than Black Mask would be. It still amazes me that Chris Nolan doesn't like The Penguin, especially with all the rumors about who would play him after BEGINS and before THE DARK KNIGHT. And The Penguin wouldn't have to be reimagined to be an arms dealer or a prominent Gotham figure. He is one in the comics.

I'd also like to see Rupert Thorne in some capacity. He's not a boring character, he's manipulative, and would suit the atmosphere now that Batman is a wanted man.

I like the idea of Joker impersonators. Sort of like the Jokerz. If this is to become Gotham, then there need to be people who value what The Joker is, and what he does, and who want to be like him. In the Batman musical I'm working on, The Joker, as The Clown Prince of Crime, inspires the freaks, and they all sort of become his subjects. I'd like to see something similar as the films go on, the way things were in the 70's

I do like Black Mask's resources. He could be a strong villain, but he's not. He's a crazy sadist. Which has its place in the Batman mythology, but I'm getting a bit tired of writers coasting on that.

Were Bane to be used, I'd like to see him tied to Ra's Al Ghul somehow, as he was during LEGACY. He could keep his original origin. Maybe Bane and Talia could work together to take Gotham.

 

[Mr. Earle]

It sure didnt feel like anyone would root for the joker unless they were insane. Even in the comics, the joker doesnt have groupies.

 

[regwec]

He does in "Detective Comics", now. It's crap.

 

[Spiderine]

I really like the use of Penguin. You've got Bruce Wayne, a rich powerful figure in Gotham who's alter ego Batman is a wanted fugitive. Meanwhile you've got Cobblepot, a rich influential political figure in Gotham who has taken a lead role in being vocal about the capture of this fugitive Batman. His alter ego known as "the Penguin" is secretly smuggling and supplying Gotham's criminal organizations with weapons behind the scenes. Helping to turn Gotham against Batman while being a true criminal himself. He doesn't have to be the main villain but a supporting villain in that capacity.

 

[Matt Mortem]

I really like the use of Penguin. You've got Bruce Wayne, a rich powerful figure in Gotham who's alter ego Batman is a wanted fugitive. Meanwhile you've got Cobblepot, a rich influential political figure in Gotham who has taken a lead role in being vocal about the capture of this fugitive Batman. His alter ego known as "the Penguin" is secretly smuggling and supplying Gotham's criminal organizations with weapons behind the scenes. Helping to turn Gotham against Batman while being a true criminal himself. He doesn't have to be the main villain but a supporting villain in that capacity.

I like this idea. Thats the best way for The Penguin to work

 

[regwec]

Cobblepot is a good shadow to Bruce Wayne, too. Bruce is Gotham's golden boy, but is indifferent to his wealth and status, seeing it as a distraction. Cobblepot is a freakish outsider, but hugely aspirational and desperate for wealth, power and influence. I think it is interesting when writers hint at The Penguin's precocious libido, too, as that forms another contrast with the the generally self-denying Batman.

 

[Spiderine]

Penguin is literally working two side here. He is using his status position in Gotham in persuading the law enforcement and city leaders of the importance of capturing this outlaw Batman. The police is already angry with Batman. Meanwhile his "Penguin" persona is secretly supporting and supplying this criminal organization and let's just say "Black Mask" with the weapons and logistics to deal with Batman. Penguin wouldn't have to take the lead role with the criminal organization as that would primarily be Black Mask and his men trying to kill Batman. It gives good use of two villains without them upstaging each other as Black Mask would probably be the main villain. This Cobblepot character poses a huge challenge for Wayne himself.

 

[Mr. Earle]

I just find the Penguin disgusting and that's why i cant buy that he would get very far in Gotham's high society. Its like that episode of BTAS where he was scorned by Gotham's elite and that made him seek revenge.

If its going to be a character like that, i'd rather it be someone as charming as Bruce, who can rival him in class and finess, like Hush, Black Mask, etc.

 

[Spiderine]

I just find the Penguin disgusting and that's why i cant buy that he would get very far in Gotham's high society. Its like that episode of BTAS where he was scorned by Gotham's elite and that made him seek revenge.

If its going to be a character like that, i'd rather it be someone as charming as Bruce, who can rival him in class and finess, like Hush, Black Mask, etc.

Well actually, Roman Sionis could still serve as the man who rivals Bruce in class amongst the elite while he is secretly the Black Mask running the organization since I would definitely have him as the main villain. So the personal connection is between Bruce and Roman which gives more depth with Batman and Black Mask. Cobblepot's character merely serves as a political figure who has become the face of Batman opposition in Gotham. Using his position to shake things up. Just an idea, I think it could work. He is more "scarecrow" in his operations.

 

[Doc Samson]

Doc you're quickly becoming one of my personal heroes on this forum...I agree completly, I've always been more of a fan of the darker characters, the true sadists in the Bat-verse. Black Mask would be great, and I think there's a good chance we might get him.

The hero you deserve or the one you need?

Seriously though, I think any combination of Black Mask, Bane, or Hugo Strange would make for a very fitting sendoff.

 

[returntovoid]

Main Villain: Black Mask
Supporting Villain: Killer Croc (Pre-Crisis version with skin disease)
Mob Villain: (Most of the Mob got whacked by The Joker in TDK, let the freaks take over)
Cameo Villain: Voice of Joker in darkened Arkham cell

They should replace Mob Villain slot with Catwoman.

I doubt a realistic rendition of Hugo Strange could offer much plot.

 

[The Guard]

I just find the Penguin disgusting and that's why i cant buy that he would get very far in Gotham's high society. Its like that episode of BTAS where he was scorned by Gotham's elite and that made him seek revenge.

If its going to be a character like that, i'd rather it be someone as charming as Bruce, who can rival him in class and finess, like Hush, Black Mask, etc.

That's kind of the overarching point of The Penguin, in terms of who he is VS what he does. He's someone who should never have been able to attain the type of stature that he does. He wants nothing more than to attain that stature, and finds himself hitting a wall, so he turns to other means, like a lot of real criminals. He's Strain Theory in action, and he's also an incredibly driven character.

 

[Mr. Earle]

I'd like to see more characters from the comics, even if they dont have much screentime or character development. I want to see Bullock and Montoya in the GCPD, Penguin and the Iceberg lounge, Dr Quinzel practicing in Arkham, Bruce bumping into Thomas Elliot at some gala, Vicky Vale among other reporters interviewing someone (like when Harvey was rescued from Batman and reporters were asking him what he thinks about being the white knight, etc), etc. It would make Chicago feel more like Gotham you know? Of course fans will whine that the characters are there for no reason, have no development, etc.

 

[The Guard]

You're going to like my Batman musical.

Assuming you like musicals.

 

[Mr. Earle]

I do!

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[The Guard]

What is that? Won't let me access it.

 

[Mr. Earle]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAFP0IoMfsA

 

[The Guard]

Yeah, it won't quite be like that.

 

[Mr. Earle]

How about these?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHY9USNC_Fk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebI8H5nq5L4

But do tell, how will it be?

 

[The Guard]

How about these?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHY9USNC_Fk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebI8H5nq5L4

But do tell, how will it be?

Rogers and Hammerstein meets THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA, with the atmosphere of JEKYLL & HYDE, and the relative scale and cultural significance of something like LES MISERABLES or RAGTIME. It's a delicious mess of a massive concept. I am apparently nothing if not ambitious when it comes to superhero musicals.

My goal is to show that a Batman musical can be fantastic.

It draws from the movies, the TV show, the animated series, and every era of Batman lore, including a lot of classics like THE KILLING JOKE, ARKHAM ASYLUM, etc. It takes a select few cues from Burton's abandoned Batman musical, in that it will be pseudo period, but this version will be set sort of vaguely around the turn of the century, because there were a lot of relevant social changes at the time (Sort of like GASLIGHT). I'm also considering a steampunk visual approach in the design of it.

I'm trying to come up with a story that pretty much includes everything from the mythos that people care about. Emphasis on everything. It's been maddening, but I'm almost there. It's kind of YEAR ONE meets the LONG HALLOWEEN/DARK VICTORY era, but it moves through the years a bit and shows us classic Batman and his allies.

The book is, oh, about 60-70% done, because I went back and revamped the third act, and the songs I'd say are about 30% written and 80% conceived. I've got a composer onboard, an arranger waiting in the wings, and a budget if I can get it off the ground. Running time is going to be an issue, as it's currently about three hours long, which is not impossible for a musical, but pretty hefty.

It'll be a community level thing that will, best case scenario, run for a few weekends, but my community is incredibly, incredibly talented. I'll have no trouble casting it. My goal was to have a reading my the end of the year, but life got in the way. I would very much like to have a reading in early 2011, and if possible, record a concept album in late 2011 or early 2012.

Like SPIDER-MAN: TURN OFF THE DARK, it's going to have some "aerial work", and a TON of villain (and hero) potential. Literally everyone in the cast will have a chance to be a classic hero or villain somewhere.

It takes a few creative liberties with characters and their stories, but they're all tonally relevant, and I think fans will appreciate the faithful elements that have been included, and how they've been included.

Assuming Batman fans like musicals.

It's currently titled GOTHAM'S KNIGHT: THE BATMAN MUSICAL.

 

[itsthebatman]

That. Sounds. Cool.
Good luck!

 

[FCEEVIPER]

 

[RoboAmish]

Despite not being the biggest Day fan in the world, I endorse this choice. Then again, I'd love to see Lithgow turn up in this franchise in any capacity possible