Was anyone else moved by Magneto's love/respect for Xavier?

[gap5ewl]

magneto didnt care professor died. he simply said his death was necassary fo his cause but he had respect for him and for what he done/

 

[TrailerMusic]

he had respect for him and for what he done/

Thats because they both want the SAME THING only Magneto sees things differently & does not agree with he thinks

 

[ShadowBoxing]

He himself tried to kill him in the second movie, So...no I think his reaction is strange and badly written.

Yeah and I don't see love and compassion in standing there and watching your friend die so you can kidnap his student.

 

[CapBeerCino]

Yeah and I don't see love and compassion in standing there and watching your friend die so you can kidnap his student.

My feeling as well. Ian was good (as ever) but Magnetu wasn't himself.
He had a different personality from one scene to the other.

 

[LostSon88]

magneto didnt care professor died. he simply said his death was necassary fo his cause but he had respect for him and for what he done/

If Mags felt that Xaviers death was necessary, then why was he screaming for Jean to stop?

My feeling as well. Ian was good (as ever) but Magnetu wasn't himself.
He had a different personality from one scene to the other.

Perhaps Magneto couldn't move? Like how Wolverine was stuck on top of the ceiling?

Mags was SCREAMING for Jean to stop...but when she didn't, he regained his composure and decided that it was time to continue his initial objective...

There was nothing else he could do (Xavier was gone) other than continue his mission.

 

[CapBeerCino]

Perhaps Magneto couldn't move? Like how Wolverine was stuck on top of the ceiling?

Still out of character - he left Xavier to die in x-2 so that "I wish he hadn't die" doesn't sit well.

 

[LostSon88]

Still out of character - he left Xavier to die in x-2 so that "I wish he hadn't die" doesn't sit well.

But he didn't! He left Xavier in Dark Cerebro expecting him to eventually awake from his delusion...As far as Mags knew, the base was perfectly fine and the X-men would've found him and casually left...

You have to remember that by the time Magneto left Alkalai Lake, he had no idea that the dam had ruptured and that it would eventually flood.

As far as he knew, Charles would've just been left inside the Dark Cerebro until he woke up and/or the X-men found him...

Throughout the trilogy, Mags never showed any intentions of killing his old friend.

 

[skruloos]

Magneto/Xavier relationship was brilliant. The best we got from Singer was a prison visit (which seemed more like a way of boasting then a sign of friendship)...The relationship in this movie was astonishing./

I'd go with the opening conversation between Xavier and Magneto from X1. It perfectly explained their stances with being didactic. It also hinted greatly at their past friendship and where they are at the crossroads of their ideals.

 

[TheBlueMcCoy82]

I loved that. I'm glad that scene was put in there. Magneto has a lot of respect for Xavier and his dream.

 

[DACrowe]

This I will admit....

The movie did WELL. Just not well but brilliantly. To see the one who was screaming for Charles was Magneto instead of any of the other X-Men was a staggering well placed idea. However, while this relationship was given more due a relationship that was beautifully built for Magneto (Magneto and Mystique) by Singer was just ****ted upon by Penn and Kinberg and their lazy writing.

As was every other relationship (underplaying Cyke/Jean, overplaying Logan/Jean, no Storm/Jean, Xavier/Logan trounced upon, Scott/everyone etc., etc.).

 

[LastSunrise1981]

It was obvious he cared when Xavier died. See the look on his face afterwards? He was in shock at what had transpired right before his eyes.

He tried to help Charles, Phoenix was holding him back and making sure he didn't get up.

Either way their relationship is very well established; hopefully we see them work together in the sequel. One of my biggest regrets and disappointments was not seeing more of it in X2.

 

[AVP82]

I liked Magneto and Xavier's relationship in the movie too. Something that was more heartfelt than the previous two movies.

 

[xmenfan84]

I was glad they put that scene in there; but I agree it was odd after Magneto sabotaged Xavier trying to help Jean. Magneto indirectly killing Xavier in one scene, followed by praising him so highly in the next does cause some confusion.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

I was glad they put that scene in there; but I agree it was odd after Magneto sabotaged Xavier trying to help Jean. Magneto indirectly killing Xavier in one scene, followed by praising him so highly in the next does cause some confusion.

Actually he was the one telling Xavier to listen to Jean.

Unfortunately for Xavier it got out of hand and literally ended up losing his skin.

 

[LostSon88]

As was every other relationship (underplaying Cyke/Jean, overplaying Logan/Jean, no Storm/Jean, Xavier/Logan trounced upon, Scott/everyone etc., etc.).

Why is everyone blaming the writers for Cyclops demise? They had to come up with something to compensate with Marsden's lack of availiability during production...would you have preferred that they re-cast? I don't.

The fact of the matter is that fans wouldn't have been happy with how they would've handeled Cyclops regardless...whether they killed him off or be MIA for the film, y'all still would've b****ed.

"Cyclops" was doomed the moment Marsden signed on to do Superman Returns (I don't blame him, either...X3 was barely in pre-production when he signed on to play Richard White)

Don't hate on the writers, if anything hate on FOX.

EDIT: But anyway back on topic, after sleeping on it I have to say that that scene alone helped propel X3 as my favorite X-men film.

 

[AVP82]

I was glad they put that scene in there; but I agree it was odd after Magneto sabotaged Xavier trying to help Jean. Magneto indirectly killing Xavier in one scene, followed by praising him so highly in the next does cause some confusion.

Magneto believed Xavier's goal is unattainable, that's why he prefers his own route, but I doubt Magneto would say something horrible after Xavier's death. He did respect him.

 

[Secret_Riddle]

I loved X3...IMHO not as good as X2 but its close.

One of my favorite aspects of X3 however was how they showed that Magneto despite all of his differences with Xavier STILL had his feeling of brotherhood with him and was legitimately saddened by his death.

Along with the actual death scene, that part where he scolded Pyro for saying that he would've killed the Prof. had Mags given him the opportunity really speaks volumes about their past friendship.

That whole Prof. X death scene when the whole thing was happening, my jaw had dropped...I was shocked and saddened at what I was witnessing...hearing Wolverine call out for Xavier was expected but what really got my emotions going was when you even heard Magneto crying out for Jean to stop...man I really liked that aspect, showing that at the end of the day Mags still cared for Xavier.

Thoughts?

ur opinion of the films is identical to mine. i also thought the respect magneto showed was very touching. his reaction to charles death (calling it his biggest regret) i thought was very emotional. i also like the end where he is playing chess with himself probably thinking about how he has lost everything. his dream, charles, his powers that made him different. u know that he shud be there wit charles being affectionatly defiant as he was at the end of x1 and the 2 friends should be having a deep conversation but as we have it charles is dead and magneto has lost everything. until that last shot

 

[xmenfan84]

True, but Magneto was also egging Jean on, giving her reasons to distrust Xavier. However, what did Xavier in was him underestimating Jean's/Phoenix's power and will to survive.

 

[PROLIFIK1]

I was moved by the fact that Magneto defended Xavier in his honor when Pyro said he would of killed him if given the chance. It still shows despite Xavier and Magneto being rivals, that their mutual respect still existed.

 

[AVP82]

I was moved by the fact that Magneto defended Xavier in his honor when Pyro said he would of killed him if given the chance. It still shows despite Xavier and Magneto being rivals, that their mutual respect still existed.

That was great...Pyro is such an idiot...he really does need to go back to school (no offense to Pyro fans).

 

[LEX]

Still out of character - he left Xavier to die in x-2 so that "I wish he hadn't die" doesn't sit well.

Please, tell me, how did he left Xavier to die? He DID NOT know that the dam was ruptured.

 

[LostSon88]

True, but Magneto was also egging Jean on, giving her reasons to distrust Xavier. However, what did Xavier in was him underestimating Jean's/Phoenix's power and will to survive.

True...Mags was egging Jean on, but I don't think he EVER entertained the notion that Jean would KILL Charles...if anything he probably expected her to throw Xavier into a wall or something and knock him out...the professor wasn't the only one who underestimated Jean that day...

 

[Morgoth]

I loved seeing Magneto's love and respect for Chuck. I knew itwas gonna' happen. This movie got the X-men. Ratner got the whole tone and feel of the X-men better than anything Singer did. Singer just did his own thing, but Brett made an actual X-men movie.

 

[skruloos]

I was moved by the fact that Magneto defended Xavier in his honor when Pyro said he would of killed him if given the chance. It still shows despite Xavier and Magneto being rivals, that their mutual respect still existed.

Something bothers me about that scene though. He talks about how Xavier had to die so that "our dream may live". Whose dream is he talking about? Because he certainly isn't talking about Xavier's dream. Is he saddened that Xavier had to die as a casualty for his dream? This kind of brings up a good question. If it came down to it and his dream surviving, would he be willing to let Xavier die or even kill him? Was he always willing to accept Xavier as a casualty of his war on humanity?

 

[xmenfan84]

True...Mags was egging Jean on, but I don't think he EVER entertained the notion that Jean would KILL Charles...if anything he probably expected her to throw Xavier into a wall or something and knock him out...the professor wasn't the only one who underestimated Jean that day...

True. Magneto respected Xavier greatly and would not intentially kill him and he did underestimate Jean's power. His fascination over Jean's abilities and his desire to have her on his side did push what care he had for Xavier's immediate well being out of his mind, though. This is what led him to indirectly killing Xavier, even though that is a somewhat loose use of the term.