Superman Returns We don't like how this movie is looking (merged)

SpeedballLives said:
4. Leonardo Code (thats what i call it. He was from Vinci, that's not his last name)

:up:
Well he had no last name at all. At least not in the present day sense. I believe his full name was Leonardo di ser Piero da Vinci. Or Leonardo son of Piero from Vinci.

Here endeth the lesson.
 
skruloos said:
I'm not so sure about that. It's entirely possible for people to get burnt out on a genre. Remember when Die Hard ripoffs were all the rage? These were the action movies that could be described as "Die Hard on a (insert location here)". Pretty soon, people tired of this sub-genre of action movie. They died out. It doesn't mean they won't ever come back but it IS possible for a genre to fall out of favor with an audience.

I'd have to agree. While they are a mainstay right now. I wouldnt be surprised if folks get tired of them for a while. However it takes just one GREAT one to reignite the flame. I think they are getting better though. With Spider-man, Batman, etc taking the source material more seriously and not looking at them as purely just a comic film....I think we are safe for now.
 
Spare-Flair said:
I don't believe that my "preferred" Superman is a minority opinion, everyone I show images of Superman to complains that he doesn't look Superman. I guarantee that many critics who review Superman will say the same thing about how Routh and the suit don't look like Superman. Like it or not, Superman is an iconic character even in the non-comic reading public and I don't have any doubts in saying that people will be questing this Superman's validity when they see it in the theatres because the traditional look of Superman is so well established and Singer's revisionist attempt really runs in contrast to the aesthetics of many people including Superman's writers and artists in the comic industry (as stated by them in several intreviews that I have read).

This is getting old but who the heck are you showing images to? I am a Superman geek but 99% of the people I've shown pictures and the trailer to are not. They are "Joe Public" who of course know of Superman and probably most have seen at least the first Chris Reeve movie. These are the people that Warner needs to sell this movie to - not geeks with their hard ass thoughts on what a Superman movie absoultely must be other wise its a piece of crap. Of the probably 25 people that I have shown the trailer to, only one has said that Routh didn't work for them. The other 24 or so were all fine with him, most commenting on how much he does resemble Reeve.

Donner didn't follow the comics in his version. Hell I was 17 (thus old and wise now!) and an avid reader of the comics when it came out and ceratinly the Krypton that I had imagined from the books wasn't on the screen and Superman certainly couldn't alter history so by definition Donner's was a revisionist as well - he did a pretty dam good job anyways!

I feel sorry for you that you're not getting what you want what ever that may be - I'm just glad I'm getting what looks like a hell of a picture by someone who obviously loves the character and is treating him with respect, regardless of your take on it.
 
I just think it's funny that all these so-called experts who've been dissing Superman Returns are the same ones who said MI3 and Code would be blockbuster hits. Well, MI3 made money, but fell far short of what people expected, and Ron Howard's Code, with its stinging Cannes preview, will prob. lead to disappointing figures, and X3 next week will likely drop it off the top pretty quickly.

And let's not forget all the dark clouds over X3. Sci-Fi Mag recently ran a piece suggesting Ratner may need mutant powers to make X3 a hit, and there've been plenty of set reports expressing concern over FOX's rushed timeline and greater attention to meeting deadlines rather than making the best possible movie.

Bottom line: EVERY big summer movie this year is coming in with a good dose of negativity and skepticism. It's unfair to pin it moreso on one title than any other. If we have to analyze this, I think a lot of us would agree that SR has just as good a set of circumstances around it (Singer, Williams score, Donner's blessing, unknown Reeve-looking lead, Spacey) as any other summer film. Everyone likes to hear about the problems and the conflicts, and I'm not saying we shouldn't speculate, but I think we all need to acknowledge that all of us, Superman fans or not, should be pleased with the way this film was developed and be thankful that despite all the missteps and omenous decisions, the people who eventually laid and directed the road are some of the best ones we could get.

So, let's speculate, but I think it's unfair to suggest SR has any more chance of flopping than any other summer film at this point.
 
Why couldn't they have based this movie off Superman:TAS Ill never know, but atleast if this bombs, we got the new Braniac Attacks animated movie to look forward to!!!!!!!!!!!
 
romeogbs19 said:
I just think it's funny that all these so-called experts who've been dissing Superman Returns are the same ones who said MI3 and Code would be blockbuster hits. Well, MI3 made money, but fell far short of what people expected, and Ron Howard's Code, with its stinging Cannes preview, will prob. lead to disappointing figures, and X3 next week will likely drop it off the top pretty quickly.

And let's not forget all the dark clouds over X3. Sci-Fi Mag recently ran a piece suggesting Ratner may need mutant powers to make X3 a hit, and there've been plenty of set reports expressing concern over FOX's rushed timeline and greater attention to meeting deadlines rather than making the best possible movie.

Bottom line: EVERY big summer movie this year is coming in with a good dose of negativity and skepticism. It's unfair to pin it moreso on one title than any other. If we have to analyze this, I think a lot of us would agree that SR has just as good a set of circumstances around it (Singer, Williams score, Donner's blessing, unknown Reeve-looking lead, Spacey) as any other summer film. Everyone likes to hear about the problems and the conflicts, and I'm not saying we shouldn't speculate, but I think we all need to acknowledge that all of us, Superman fans or not, should be pleased with the way this film was developed and be thankful that despite all the missteps and omenous decisions, the people who eventually laid and directed the road are some of the best ones we could get.

So, let's speculate, but I think it's unfair to suggest SR has any more chance of flopping than any other summer film at this point.

Why would it have needed Donner's blessing or a Reeve Look alike????????
 
venom420 said:
Why couldn't they have based this movie off Superman:TAS Ill never know,
Why should it be? Because you like TAS more? Doesn't seem like a good enough reason to me.
 
Today I went out and grabbed a bite to eat with a friend of mine I hadn't seen in awhile. My friend isn't the biggest Superman fan in particular, but he loves superheroes and he is a frequent movie-goer, which by the way is the life line of the business unlike little prick fanboys. Knowing Im a Superman fan, about 5 minutes into our conversation Im hit with this, and it's a god's honest qoute, Im not making it up..........

" Have you seen the new Superman trailer, the new Superman looks like a ***. Why would they try to ruin the movie like that "

After that I tould him the concept for the movie, how it is a sequel to the 1978 film. Another exact qoute...........

" That is the stupidest f-ing thing Ive ever heard. Why would you make a sequel to a COMIC BOOK film that is almost 30 years old. So we are going to get the fairy Superman again "

This scares me, because again, my friend is a MOVIE fan, first and foremost, and he knows his stuff. He knows good movies and good ideas. I know some fanboy will come try and put me into my place but just thought I should pass this along.


And take this with a grain of salt, but after my sister saw the new Superman trailer before poseiden, she dead on asked me, and I qoute, why the guy from Smallville wasn't the new Superman, because he looks alot stronger than the new guy, and he is better looking to!!!!!!
 
skruloos said:
Why should it be? Because you like TAS more? Doesn't seem like a good enough reason to me.

How about you give me a good enough reason why this film should be a rehash of a near 30 year old film!!!

Oh thats right, your a " Defender of Singers Vision ", this film could be total ***** and you would praise it!!!!
 
edit: it's pretty clear by your previous posts you don't like what you're seeing with this movie so i'm not likely to think you....i mean, your friend.....actually said what you said he said
 
I can't believe you made a thread just to indirectly bash SR.

My god, "you know what my friend thought"... that's the classic case of using a another person to transmit your own opinion...

well, now that we know how you feel about this movie, we can all sleep at night again. thank you. :o
 
Well, I know I care what an intolerant, ignorant person thinks...
 
M.E.H.Z.E.B said:
I can't believe you made a thread just to indirectly bash SR. My god, you know what my friend thought... classic case of using a another person to transmit your own opinion... well, not that we know how you feel about this movie, we can all sleep at night again. thank you. :o


Your Welcome.......
 
venom420 said:
Why couldn't they have based this movie off Superman:TAS Ill never know, but atleast if this bombs, we got the new Braniac Attacks animated movie to look forward to!!!!!!!!!!!
What aspect of TAS? The de-powered wiener Superman? Characters like Live Wire didn't exactly strike my fancy (part Lori Petty...part lame character). The basic origin of TAS was okay, but it was very succinct and watered down (although for an animated pilot, I guess I shouldn't expect much).
 
The Guard said:
Well, I know I care what an intolerant, ignorant person thinks...


And I care what a dousche bag ignorant fanboy thinks........
 
Meh. If the guy (or you) want(s) to think that way, his loss.
 
venom420 said:
Today I went out and grabbed a bite to eat with a friend of mine I hadn't seen in awhile. My friend isn't the biggest Superman fan in particular, but he loves superheroes and he is a frequent movie-goer, which by the way is the life line of the business unlike little prick fanboys. Knowing Im a Superman fan, about 5 minutes into our conversation Im hit with this, and it's a god's honest qoute, Im not making it up..........

" Have you seen the new Superman trailer, the new Superman looks like a ***. Why would they try to ruin the movie like that "

After that I tould him the concept for the movie, how it is a sequel to the 1978 film. Another exact qoute...........

" That is the stupidest f-ing thing Ive ever heard. Why would you make a sequel to a COMIC BOOK film that is almost 30 years old. So we are going to get the fairy Superman again "

This scares me, because again, my friend is a MOVIE fan, first and foremost, and he knows his stuff. He knows good movies and good ideas. I know some fanboy will come try and put me into my place but just thought I should pass this along.


And take this with a grain of salt, but after my sister saw the new Superman trailer before poseiden, she dead on asked me, and I qoute, why the guy from Smallville wasn't the new Superman, because he looks alot stronger than the new guy, and he is better looking to!!!!!!

Make me laugh - are you sure you weren't having lunch with a mirror?
 
venom420 said:
How about you give me a good enough reason why this film should be a rehash of a near 30 year old film!!!
There are no reasons. Whoever is in charge of the movie gets to choose what they want to do with it. If they choose to build it off Donner's film then so be it. If they choose to build it off Abrams draft then so be it. If they choose to build it off STAS then so be it. Singer has made his choice. It's ridiculous that you would think he should base it on what you prefer simply because you like it more.

venom420 said:
Oh thats right, your a " Defender of Singers Vision ", this film could be total ***** and you would praise it!!!!
LOL. Defending Singer's vision means defending his right to tell the story he wants to tell. If the movie is bad, I'll be more than happy to criticize it but I'll still defend his choices to tell the story he wanted to tell. It's out of respect of the artist and not simply dismissing his ideas simply because I do not agree with them. But I suppose such a concept escapes you?
 
KaptainKrypton said:
What aspect of TAS? The de-powered wiener Superman? Characters like Live Wire didn't exactly strike my fancy (part Lori Petty...part lame character). The basic origin of TAS was okay, but it was very succinct and watered down (although for an animated pilot, I guess I shouldn't expect much).

The way the characters where portrayed, in particular........

Clark/Superman
Lex
Lois
The Kents

and we recieved kick ass battles with Braniac and Darkseid instead of turning back time!!!!
 
venom420 said:
And I care what a dousche bag ignorant fanboy thinks........
I'm willing to bet for being so ignorant he could probably spell *****e. And elaborate as to what makes a person ignorant for disregarding the opinion of a shaved ape. Please. Regale me.
 
venom420 said:
" Have you seen the new Superman trailer, the new Superman looks like a ***. Why would they try to ruin the movie like that "

The most objectively sound critisism of Brandon Routh yet. Your friend deserves a nobel prize :up:


" That is the stupidest f-ing thing Ive ever heard. Why would you make a sequel to a COMIC BOOK film that is almost 30 years old. So we are going to get the fairy Superman again "

Another classic example of how articulate your friend is. He should take his talents to the Times. They'll be lucky to have such a well-versed critic :up:
 
And I care what a dousche bag ignorant fanboy thinks........

How exactly am I ignorant?

If you're going to call me that, could you at least spell the words properly?

Your (cough) friend is probably just jealous that women adore men like Brandon Routh.
 

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