What are your complaints? What would you do differently? *SPOILERS* - Part 1

[spider-neil]

So you'd have had Superman fight the Kryptonians in a cornfield where there's no danger to anyone around which means there's no tension? Well it worked out well when they did fight scenes in a desert in one of the Transformers film didn't it

The danger was his mother could be hurt. So in essence to safe guard one person he put hundreds in danger by taking the fight into town.

 

[BlueLantern]

The danger was his mother could be hurt. So in essence to safe guard one person he put hundreds in danger by taking the fight into town.

So...realism?

 

[tomoe]

The danger was his mother could be hurt. So in essence to safe guard one person he put hundreds in danger by taking the fight into town.

Not only that, his mom's safety was hardly guaranteed by his actions. Those kryptonians he left her behind with could have easily snapped her neck before going to help Zod. He was really lucky they didn't. If the fight had to be in town for it to look awesome or whatever it should not have been Superman who led it there.

 

[dude stannis]

So you'd have had Superman fight the Kryptonians in a cornfield where there's no danger to anyone around which means there's no tension? Well it worked out well when they did fight scenes in a desert in one of the Transformers film didn't it

Where the hell was the tension in annihilating downtown metropolis when Supes clearly wasn't bothering with preventing collateral damage?

 

[sf2]

Not only that, his mom's safety was hardly guaranteed by his actions. Those kryptonians he left her behind with could have easily snapped her neck before going to help Zod. He was really lucky they didn't. If the fight had to be in town for it to look awesome or whatever it should not have been Superman who led it there.

you just made up of a lot of your own scenes for you to dislike the movies.

 

[sf2]

Where the hell was the tension in annihilating downtown metropolis when Supes clearly wasn't bothering with preventing collateral damage?

first of all, they are not annihilating the city. the massive destruction was done by the black zero. superman managed to destroy it and saved the city.

 

[PacificBoy]

first of all, they are not annihilating the city. the massive destruction was done by the black zero. superman managed to destroy it and saved the city.

Well, Clark did save the day, but he didn't exactly save the city.

 

[sf2]

Well, Clark did save the day, but he didn't exactly save the city.

that's exactly what lex luthor would think.

hmmm... r u a lex luthor?

 

[Jaxon]

Well, Clark did save the day, but he didn't exactly save the city.

pretty sure he didn't have much choice in the city destruction when he was on the other side of the world

Zod attacked him in the end, not sure where you think he was going to go, Zofd only flew at the end so it's not like he could have had a fight in space

 

[PacificBoy]

pretty sure he didn't have much choice in the city destruction when he was on the other side of the world

Zod attacked him in the end, not sure where you think he was going to go, Zofd only flew at the end so it's not like he could have had a fight in space

Hey, not blaming Clark for the city's destruction at the hands of the world engine, and even the fisticuffs with Zod; it's a fight between two god-like beings and realistically speaking the level of collateral damage shown is to be expected. He could have flown Zod away from the city, like he did in Smallville when Zod confronted Ma Kent. Zod at this point, however, had probably gotten used to his powers and was too tough to be manhandled as before.

But what I'm saying is that while Clark did save the day, he couldn't (didn't) save the city, for whatever reason. This could be held against him in the sequel.

 

[PacificBoy]

that's exactly what lex luthor would think.

hmmm... r u a lex luthor?

I think if Lex makes an appearance in the sequel, he would feel somewhat this way.

 

[BH/HHH]

Where the hell was the tension in annihilating downtown metropolis when Supes clearly wasn't bothering with preventing collateral damage?

How could he prevent damage when he was in the Indian Ocean saving the entire planet? If he hadn't have done that all humans would have died. But no everyone on the planet potentially dying doesn't have any tension to it does it

Also when he's fighting Zod its clear when u watch it that Zod is doing most of the damage Superman only through him through buildings that clearly weren't populated.

But as usual people seem to think Superman can be everywhere at once

 

[Nathan]

Zod was pretty much dictating the battle. Superman always tried to keep eyes on him and when he lost him, he got sucker punched. So imagine if he would have tried to save civilians, he takes his eyes off Zod for a second, only to get sucker punched, and any person he tried to save, would have died anyway.

 

[BH/HHH]

Zod was pretty much dictating the battle. Superman always tried to keep eyes on him and when he lost him, he got sucker punched. So imagine if he would have tried to save civilians, he takes his eyes off Zod for a second, only to get sucker punched, and any person he tried to save, would have died anyway.

Exactly

 

[robot]

Well, Clark did save the day, but he didn't exactly save the city.

Clark didn't save the city, he saved the entire planet!

 

[Mjölnir]

Zod was pretty much dictating the battle. Superman always tried to keep eyes on him and when he lost him, he got sucker punched. So imagine if he would have tried to save civilians, he takes his eyes off Zod for a second, only to get sucker punched, and any person he tried to save, would have died anyway.

Superman could have saved civilians/destruction by moving away from the city. Zod was only after one thing, to kill Kal-El, so he would have followed him. Zod made no indications at all to hurting humans to get to Kal until the final scene. It's that, or trying to forcefully remove Zod instead of just smacking him around.

 

[Nathan]

Superman could have saved civilians by flying away from the city. Zod was only after one thing, to kill Kal-El, so he would have followed him. Zod made no indications at all to hurting humans to get to Kal until the final scene.

Except he outright told him he would make the humans he adopted suffer. And take them all from him one by one. I can already see it, Superman flies out of the city, in hopes that Zod follows him, only to hear the screams of people dying. Then we'd have people on here saying how stupid he was for just leaving, knowing full well that Zod threatened to kill everyone.

 

[Mjölnir]

Except he outright told him he would make the humans he adopted suffer. And take them all from him one by one. I can already see it, Superman flies out of the city, in hopes that Zod follows him, only to hear the screams of people dying. Then we'd have people on here saying how stupid he was for just leaving, knowing full well that Zod threatened to kill everyone.

You don't have to fly away out of sight, you of course lure him away, perhaps taking a few blows for doing it but it wasn't like anyone of them looked particularly hurt so it couldn't have killed him. Or, as I edited my previous post, he could have tried to remove Zod from the location himself. The Superman I know puts the good of others above himself, which there's also precedent of him doing in the movie (even against his father's orders).

Zod's primary objective was definitely to kill Kal-El, otherwise he'd start killing humans as soon as Supes didn't know where he was. Zod didn't as he always found and attacked Supes again.

 

[robot]

Except he outright told him he would make the humans he adopted suffer. And take them all from him one by one. I can already see it, Superman flies out of the city, in hopes that Zod follows him, only to hear the screams of people dying. Then we'd have people on here saying how stupid he was for just leaving, knowing full well that Zod threatened to kill everyone.

Hahaha... so true. You can't win...

 

[Nathan]

You don't have to fly away out of sight, you of course lure him away, perhaps taking a few blows for doing it but it wasn't like anyone of them looked particularly hurt so it couldn't have killed him.

Which would have resulted in even more collateral damage. This was basically a battle of gods. How many buildings would Superman have to let himself get punched or thrown through to get out of Metropolis? The city was huge.

Zod's primary objective was definitely to kill Kal-El, otherwise he'd start killing humans as soon as Supes didn't know where he was. Zod didn't as he always found and attacked Supes again.

Or he'd kill humans only to get Superman's attention again. Keep the fight in the city, where Superman can't fully exert himself.

 

[robot]

You don't have to fly away out of sight, you of course lure him away, perhaps taking a few blows for doing it but it wasn't like anyone of them looked particularly hurt so it couldn't have killed him. Or, as I edited my previous post, he could have tried to remove Zod from the location himself. The Superman I know puts the good of others above himself, which there's also precedent of him doing in the movie (even against his father's orders).

Zod's primary objective was definitely to kill Kal-El, otherwise he'd start killing humans as soon as Supes didn't know where he was. Zod didn't as he always found and attacked Supes again.

I have watched MOS 3 times now.. I am pretty sure Zod wanted to die... he was just threatening the world so that Supers kill him... he's lost his purpose... he was genetically engineered for one thing, without which he's self-destructing..

 

[BH/HHH]

I don't see how he could have even lured him away, he'd have just kept going back. All he has to do is give Superman a sucker punch (no pun intended) and fly back.

 

[BH/HHH]

You don't have to fly away out of sight, you of course lure him away, perhaps taking a few blows for doing it but it wasn't like anyone of them looked particularly hurt so it couldn't have killed him. Or, as I edited my previous post, he could have tried to remove Zod from the location himself. The Superman I know puts the good of others above himself, which there's also precedent of him doing in the movie (even against his father's orders).

Zod's primary objective was definitely to kill Kal-El, otherwise he'd start killing humans as soon as Supes didn't know where he was. Zod didn't as he always found and attacked Supes again.

Yoo need to realise he's not that Superman yet. This is an inexperienced Clark Kent, he's never been in this situation before where he's had to save the whole planet and take on people as powerful as he is.

 

[Nathan]

Luring him away simple wouldn't have worked. As you can see, in the 2nd half of the fight, once Zod flies, Zod is actually the one doing the luring. Superman actually keeps the fight above the city at first, only for Zod to fly off and hide amongst the buildings.

 

[Jaxon]

Yoo need to realise he's not that Superman yet. This is an inexperienced Clark Kent, he's never been in this situation before where he's had to save the whole planet and take on people as powerful as he is.

Great point. Everyone just considers "the Superman I know", but fail to think about what experiences might have shaped him to be that person. Now the reasoning has a real sense to it.
The scream after begging Zod to stop symbolised his deep values but also that he was left without choice, and this superman who never kills, well what if you had to for the greater good. It was a situation he needed to be put in.