The Dark Knight Rises What do you not like about the movie?

[UaalaDan]

That's kind of a thing The Joker has in the comics, though. Ridiculous luck.

Although, in THE DARK KNIGHT, when The Joker gets flipped over in the truck, he at least has some issues crawling out, and is limping.

Burton's BATMAN played with that concept, too.

Moreover, He's a sadistic bastard. He enjoys the pain.

 

[UaalaDan]

- The people of Gotham City being practically nonexistent in this film.
- The Daggett subplot.
- Alfred leaving Bruce.
- Series regulars getting the shaft in favor of new characters like Foley, Tate, and Blake - the former two being so underdeveloped that they were, for all intents and purposes, a waste of time.
- The film's breakneck pace.
- The film's main villain ultimately being upstaged by an underdeveloped and poorly utilized character in one of the most uninspiring twists of all time.
- The LoS angle.
- Nolan's notorious "tell" style of filmmaking.
- Bane's defeat.
- The "John Blake Rises" second act.
- Underdeveloped themes.
- Gotham's five-month siege being truncated to ten minutes worth of screentime.
- Awkward interjections of BB flashbacks.
- Plotholes, Plotholes, Plotholes.

Add to that "Robin" name bs and we've got a winner.

 

[Batmansvoice]

There was one thing that drove me a bit crazy during the final part of the movie. Crazy enough to actually make an account instead of being a part time lurker.

Why didn't Blake take the kids through the South Street Tunnels where Catwoman blew apart the debris? He knew about them since he told one of the orphans to tell people to use either the bridge or the tunnel. Apparently the tunnels weren't being guarded by military and outside cops and they should have still been usable. Instead of getting back on the bus and praying, maybe they should have been trying to hightail it out of Gotham. Also Batman seems kind of like a jerk telling Blake about the bridges when he knows military are there to prevent an escape. Just use the tunnels.

 

[The Guard]

But then he wouldn't have been able to lose his **** in that one sequence.

 

[kvz5]

- The people of Gotham City being practically nonexistent in this film.
- The Daggett subplot.
- Alfred leaving Bruce.
- Series regulars getting the shaft in favor of new characters like Foley, Tate, and Blake - the former two being so underdeveloped that they were, for all intents and purposes, a waste of time.
- The film's breakneck pace.
- The film's main villain ultimately being upstaged by an underdeveloped and poorly utilized character in one of the most uninspiring twists of all time.
- The LoS angle.
- Nolan's notorious "tell" style of filmmaking.
- Bane's defeat.
- The "John Blake Rises" second act.
- Underdeveloped themes.
- Gotham's five-month siege being truncated to ten minutes worth of screentime.
- Awkward interjections of BB flashbacks.
- Plotholes, Plotholes, Plotholes.

This is one goddamn good list especially the bolded ones.

 

[Tron5000]

What I don't like:

-The pace at which the story unfolded
-Batman "returns" twice in the same movie
-Missing 3-month time period
-Didn't feel sense of tension
-Batman being out of action for 8 years

I wish I liked this movie more than I do. But after 2 viewings and thinking about and discussing it, I just have some issues with it. First, I wasn't a fan of Batman being out of action for 8 years. That just seems like a lot of time. I would've preferred that he had remained active, but in the shadows and with the police chasing him and such, and for a shorter time period of maybe 2 years or so. One reason I didn't like Batman being "missing" was that his first return to action took some of the wind out of his second return. I would've liked to have seen him come back to action only once, not twice, in the movie. I think it would've made for a more meaningful return near the end of the movie if Batman had been active the whole time, and then Bane breaks him and sends him away, perhaps even broadcasting it to the people of Gotham. Trying to gain their support by taking down Public Enemy #1.

I felt Bane's reign of terror should have begun a bit earlier in the film, and Bruce's imprisonment should've lasted longer (in screen time). Time could've been saved by not building up Batman's first time returning to action, and I would have used this screen time to show parts of those 3 months that were not shown. They could've shown the police living underground and how they made that work. I would've liked some more scenes of Gotham turning upside down. Rich people living on Skid Row, poor people living it up in the mansions and penthouses, crime running rampant with no police around...it would have added to the feeling of terror in Gotham, which I felt was sorely missing. And it would have made Batman's eventual return a bigger deal.

Basically I would've chopped a good portion of the first 45 minutes. Yeah, still have the Dent Act passed and organized crime cleaned up, but Batman still working behind the shadows busting some low-level crooks (maybe show a Calculator-type guy or something) and running from the cops a bit. Then Bane shows up, busts up the Batman, sends him away and takes over Gotham. Then focus more on the terror-related aspects of the film (like they did with the court and the image of people hanging from the bridge). Show Bruce working up his strength to get out of the pit, and then show his "return to action" training.

I felt this movie had so much promise that it failed to deliver on. It tried to be a lot of things when it could have narrowed the focus and come out better for it. Of course this is all my opinion, but it's how I wish they had done things.

 

[The Shape]

My biggest problem was the 8 year gap in which Batman was inactive.

Think about it. If that wasn't the case, MANY of the problems people are having with the film would not exist. The film wouldn't have had to spend that much time pushing Bruce to become Batman again, and it would've made his Fall and ultimate Rise much more poignant. Less wasted time early on, more time for the things everyone wanted to see later on.

 

[LoveDragonDon]

The timeline in this movie is just completely MORONIC.

Nolan is a GREAT film maker, but he obviously has NO idea about time.

You don't fight any war in 45 minutes beating Bane and leading cops into war!!! UNREALISTIC

You can't hook up a nuclear bomb to a Bat in the last 2-3 minutes from city to all the way out there in the ocean, 6 miles away from the city UNREALISTIC Plus you escape in the last 5-10 seconds... MOST UNREALISTIC

At what point did Batman jump out into the ocean? You saw him in the cockpit in the last 5 seconds, is that his rescue Bat then I assume?

I don't care he is Batman, he is not that fast to accomplish all these in the last 45 minutes, period.

 

[UaalaDan]

Also, why the hell did Blake left the police and threw his badge? It made no sense to me.

I`m like...cops and Batman are battling together and then he quits?

 

[UaalaDan]

My biggest problem was the 8 year gap in which Batman was inactive.

Think about it. If that wasn't the case, MANY of the problems people are having with the film would not exist. The film wouldn't have had to spend that much time pushing Bruce to become Batman again, and it would've made his Fall and ultimate Rise much more poignant. Less wasted time early on, more time for the things everyone wanted to see later on.

Yeah. That part sucked too.

 

[LoveDragonDon]

Also, why the hell did Blake left the police and threw his badge? It made no sense to me.

I`m like...cops and Batman are battling together and then he quits?

That he already told Gordon in the end.

 

[LoveDragonDon]

My biggest problem was the 8 year gap in which Batman was inactive.

Think about it. If that wasn't the case, MANY of the problems people are having with the film would not exist. The film wouldn't have had to spend that much time pushing Bruce to become Batman again, and it would've made his Fall and ultimate Rise much more poignant. Less wasted time early on, more time for the things everyone wanted to see later on.

This is a very good movie, but the time thing really made the movie dumber.

Where the time people expect shorter, he made it very long

Where the time people expert longer, he made it very short.

 

[Quasimod0]

What I can't believe is that batman had nothing in his utility belt in his first fight against bane except for Some smoke bombs. Lol. That was ridiculous. Where we're those little bat tranquilizer darts he had later on?

 

[AnneFan]

Where we're those little bat tranquilizer darts he had later on?

Hehe yeah. The film would've been a lot shorter if he whipped those out sooner during the first fight.

 

[Doc Samson]

Upon more thought, one of my bigger gripes is the reveal of Dent's true nature, and Gordon's ability to seemingly get away with it. I understand Gotham is essentially under new rule, and obviously the man risked his life to save the city once again. But some type of hearing or investigation would've surely took place. I don't think Gordon would've just been allowed to stay with the force with no type of repercussions.

 

[Quasimod0]

Hehe yeah. The film would've been a lot shorter if he whipped those out sooner during the first fight.

Lol surely he had SOMETHING other than what he threw at bane. Can you imagine a fight between arkham city batman and this batman? Yeesh

 

[combocaz]

I really hate the fight scenes, flailing punches dont make for good viewing. I thought angry bat voice wouldnt make an appearance until when batman was demanding where the trigger was from bane "WHERES THE TRIGGER!!! WHERE IS IT!!!" oh dear.. Nolan may know how to tell a good story but he cant film fight scenes.

 

[munchie64]

- The people of Gotham City being practically nonexistent in this film.
- The Daggett subplot.
- Alfred leaving Bruce.
- Series regulars getting the shaft in favor of new characters like Foley, Tate, and Blake - the former two being so underdeveloped that they were, for all intents and purposes, a waste of time.
- The film's breakneck pace.
- The film's main villain ultimately being upstaged by an underdeveloped and poorly utilized character in one of the most uninspiring twists of all time.
- The LoS angle.
- Nolan's notorious "tell" style of filmmaking.
- Bane's defeat.
- The "John Blake Rises" second act.
- Underdeveloped themes.
- Gotham's five-month siege being truncated to ten minutes worth of screentime.
- Awkward interjections of BB flashbacks.
- Plotholes, Plotholes, Plotholes.

Most of these are positives for me.

 

[mego joe]

This is one goddamn good list especially the bolded ones.

Thirded w/o the gd.

 

[mego joe]

What I don't like:

-The pace at which the story unfolded
-Batman "returns" twice in the same movie
-Missing 3-month time period
-Didn't feel sense of tension
-Batman being out of action for 8 years

I wish I liked this movie more than I do. But after 2 viewings and thinking about and discussing it, I just have some issues with it. First, I wasn't a fan of Batman being out of action for 8 years. That just seems like a lot of time. I would've preferred that he had remained active, but in the shadows and with the police chasing him and such, and for a shorter time period of maybe 2 years or so. One reason I didn't like Batman being "missing" was that his first return to action took some of the wind out of his second return. I would've liked to have seen him come back to action only once, not twice, in the movie. I think it would've made for a more meaningful return near the end of the movie if Batman had been active the whole time, and then Bane breaks him and sends him away, perhaps even broadcasting it to the people of Gotham. Trying to gain their support by taking down Public Enemy #1.

I felt Bane's reign of terror should have begun a bit earlier in the film, and Bruce's imprisonment should've lasted longer (in screen time). Time could've been saved by not building up Batman's first time returning to action, and I would have used this screen time to show parts of those 3 months that were not shown. They could've shown the police living underground and how they made that work. I would've liked some more scenes of Gotham turning upside down. Rich people living on Skid Row, poor people living it up in the mansions and penthouses, crime running rampant with no police around...it would have added to the feeling of terror in Gotham, which I felt was sorely missing. And it would have made Batman's eventual return a bigger deal.

Basically I would've chopped a good portion of the first 45 minutes. Yeah, still have the Dent Act passed and organized crime cleaned up, but Batman still working behind the shadows busting some low-level crooks (maybe show a Calculator-type guy or something) and running from the cops a bit. Then Bane shows up, busts up the Batman, sends him away and takes over Gotham. Then focus more on the terror-related aspects of the film (like they did with the court and the image of people hanging from the bridge). Show Bruce working up his strength to get out of the pit, and then show his "return to action" training.

I felt this movie had so much promise that it failed to deliver on. It tried to be a lot of things when it could have narrowed the focus and come out better for it. Of course this is all my opinion, but it's how I wish they had done things.

Nice points. Much agreement here, but why punish yourself with the second viewing?

 

[mego joe]

Most of these are positives for me.

I'll just direct you to your signature.

 

[munchie64]

I'll just direct you to your signature.

 

[Saitou Hajime]

Alright, so what happens to all of those police at the station when the bomb goes off? Maybe they're not dead, but they're definitely incapacitated. He's still standing. Even the cop he was holding hostage went down as well.

He was the only one who knew what was about to happen, so I suppose he just braced himself.

 

[UaalaDan]

I`m glad that I`m not the only one who thought this movie TONS of flaws.

Such a disappointment that I really don't get the praise.

Nolan made 2 great movies and 1 that is good but not great. He had great ideas but completely got lost in the scope, timing, editing and screenplay.

 

[TomPiltoff]

I thought angry bat voice wouldnt make an appearance until when batman was demanding where the trigger was from bane "WHERES THE TRIGGER!!! WHERE IS IT!!!" oh dear.

I actually really like the Bat-voice when it's like that, and when he was trying to beat Rachel's location out of The Joker.