The Dark Knight Rises What do you not like about the movie?

[Reek]

Oh, and another thing, how did batman put a shed load of petrol in the shape of a bat sign on that bridge. It was epic moment, but so ridiculous, things like that need explaining, if they are they then they are epic, if not it just looks stupid because its such a ridiculous thing to be able to acheieve, I mean how would you even begin trying to do something like that?

Was there time to evolve a strategy though.? I mean a bomb was to going to blow up in a little time.

Batman always has a strategy.

So funny, a bomb is close to exploding, the city is in hell, yet Batmans 'strategy' included setting up a flaming bat signal...

Bat-Magic?

 

[the_monk]

"Oh, and another thing, how did batman put a shed load of petrol in the shape of a bat sign on that bridge. It was epic moment, but so ridiculous, things like that need explaining, if they are they then they are epic, if not it just looks stupid because its such a ridiculous thing to be able to acheieve, I mean how would you even begin trying to do something like that?"

I have to take issue with this. It's not important how he accomplishes it. Showing him actually doing it would crush the visceral importance of the scene. If you watch a lot of great films, you'll find these sort of things happening often. A famous moment I would refer to is in The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. Tuco and Blondie are coming toward camera, having a conversation. Suddenly, they run into some Union soldiers, and the camera pans to show an entire army in front of them. It's ridiculous, in real life, to assume they wouldn't see the army, but the point of cinema isn't to present real life. When things happen off camera, they aren't shown for a reason.

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

It's called "closed form."

 

[Reek]

I agree, it doesn't matter how he did it, etc.... But IMO it took away some of the 'sense of urgency'... i was like, ok, so he had all the time to do that... and all the time to walk on the ice and find the correct path blah blah blah...

 

[robinsonp]

I was dissappointed in the demise of Bane. A lot of the movie was spent building Bane up to being an, almost, and Anti-Bruce Wayne. Both were orphans, both suffered through terrible things as children and both found inspiration and heart and soul to pull themselves out of there predicament. They kind of grow through the same route and then Bane is what happens when you take the evil route and Batman is what you get when Bruce Wayne went the other direction with his inspiration. They were very similar but polar opposite characters. It was setup for a great showdown in the end.

Instead Miranda, a character who was only semi-interesting as Bruce Waynes love interest, turns out to be Talia Al Ghul and the story turns out to really be about her the whole time. Unfortunatley at that point everything that Bane had done and said at that point just lost a lot of meaning and he became a glorified henchmen, not a supervillian. Then as soon as he came in catwomen shoots him with some gun on the bike and thats the end of Bane. And just like that we are supposed to shift all this fear and distrust we had developed with Bane onto Talia Al Ghul and it just didnt happen for me.

I guess a lot of people were very happy with the surprise rising of Talia but I thought it devalued Bane who had earned the title of a worthy opponent for Batman. Thought it was a good movie but Bane was the villian we needed to step up not Talia Al Ghul in last 3 minutes of the movie.

 

[Reek]

While I always knew

Spoiler

Selina was going to be the one to kill Bane

I didnt like how. could have been done much much better.

 

[ComicStalker]

For the Flaming Bat-Symbol on the bridge I imagined him using the Bat and spraying some type of gas or petroleum with a flame thrower type thing on the Bat.
Then Batman shows up on the other side of the ice, the side where everyone was falling in because the ice was too thin from the current. I was like WTF? Not only that but he's got his heavy armour/suit on. So he should be heavier than a normal person. But he doesnt fall in...

 

[Scooter]

The only thing about this movie that kind of irked me - and it's nitpicky enough to make feel like a jerk for being such a nerd - was the charge the cops made on Bane's men...who were armed with automatic rifles and had the cops funneled into a corridor. Charging a line of machine guns hasn't worked since World War 1, those cops would have been mowed down. Batman should have fired some smoke grenades or something as he was flying away.

 

[MessenjahMatt]

I didn't like how it often felt like whole transitions were cut, which I'm guessing they were. A really jarring one would be Bruce visiting Gordon in the hospital. He jumps out the window, then smash cut to him sitting in the chair and Gordon talking. I wanted to see him get into Gordon's room, see Gordon's reaction, and how he comes to understand that this guy in a ski mask is Batman.

Holding out hope for an extended edition. I could watch 4+ hours of this movie.

 

[Nevincer]

I didn't like how it often felt like whole transitions were cut, which I'm guessing they were. A really jarring one would be Bruce visiting Gordon in the hospital. He jumps out the window, then smash cut to him sitting in the chair and Gordon talking. I wanted to see him get into Gordon's room, see Gordon's reaction, and how he comes to understand that this guy in a ski mask is Batman.

Holding out hope for an extended edition. I could watch 4+ hours of this movie.

I feel exactly the same. A lot of the movie's faults lie with the fact it feels like it was cut too short from all they were trying to do in it.

 

[The Guard]

Thinking about it further, I am disappointed that Batman never really lead the troops against Bane. There was no rousing speech to rally the cops and lift their spirits; he just flew over them in the Bat.

Yeah, that kind of sucked.

I don't think we really saw anyone rally them.

In a film full of cliches, thats the one that probably should have existed, and didn't.

 

[karatemanchan37]

It was too short. My only complaint.

 

[Polaris23]

I didn't like that it ended with JGL nor that they included "Robin" in any shape or form. I thought Bale/Nolan said they would never touch Robin in their series?

 

[film4life]

I didn't like that it ended with JGL nor that they included "Robin" in any shape or form. I thought Bale/Nolan said they would never touch Robin in their series?

This was the biggest complaint I had the first time I saw it. I HATED the ending for that reason, just HATED it! Then I watched it again and for some reason I realized it is the PERFECT ending for this series. Once I got over the fact that Robin would be included, I realized we just got the BEST Robin origin story! So I'll say to you, please give it another try, I understand where you're coming from.

 

[sauronthegreat]

My only complain: Joker's absence from the finale

 

[Reek]

If they intended Robin to be a superhero, they wouldnt reveal his real name is Robin. I take the ending to be JGL just wanting to truly know the man who saved the city.

 

[Travesty]

This was the biggest complaint I had the first time I saw it. I HATED the ending for that reason, just HATED it! Then I watched it again and for some reason I realized it is the PERFECT ending for this series. Once I got over the fact that Robin would be included, I realized we just got the BEST Robin origin story! So I'll say to you, please give it another try, I understand where you're coming from.

Best Robin origin story? I find it to be one of the worst Robin stories ever conceived.

 

[Venom75]

Here's a few of mine. Nothing new,really...

-The film was so damn long,but at the same time felt rushed.
-I could barely make out alot of what Bane was saying. I'd say I understood maybe 65%?
-No Joker mention or scene whatsoever.
-Not enough Catwoman

 

[Ironhorse75]

Anytime the Batpod rolled sideways. I see how convincing some of the special effects in Transformers is and they still can't seem to pull this effect off seemlessly.

 

[ElMariachi]

Something dawned on me on why TDKR wasn't quite as good as TDK or BB. In TDK, Gotham City felt like a living, breathing city full of memorable yet minor characters. This new movie had none of that. Can anyone here recall any lesser characters from TDKR that remotely stood out?

In TDK, the list of memorable characters is huge. Lau, Chechen, Maroni, Gambol, Wuertz, Ramirez, Gordon's family, Loeb, Coleman Reese, William Fichtner, Anthony Michael Hall, etc. Characters further down the totem pole is really what made TDK special. The overconfident passenger on the ferry, the fat guy with the bomb in his stomach, that cop that 'guards' Joker, Tommy 'Tiny' Lister, Harvey's Russian ballerina date, the pudgy Batman impersonator, the nervous prisoners/passengers on the ferry, the crazy guy Batman stops Dent from killing, the old guy that stands up to the Joker, the nervous cops in the semi chase, and so on. The Joker thugs in the prolouge of TDK had more personality than any of Bane's henchmen.

The problem with TDKR is that it was all cops,thugs, and orphans. It lacked the little characters that made Gotham City a rather believable, intersting American city in The Dark Knight and Batman Begins. I think even Nolan bit off a bit more than he could chew with this movie. Don't get me wrong, it was still great but I think it's the Return of the Jedi of the Nolanverse. I'd also compare it to Iron Man 2. I think TDKR is better than IM2 but it suffers from many of the same problems. Those being some questionable writing, too many characters, too many plots, a great villain being undermined by a bigger baddie (Talia/Hammer), and too much hype.

Other things that stood out was the first 30 minutes of the movie was a bit clunky, there were a few too many plotholes, and some really questionable things that happened in the plot. For starters, the Gotham Police attacking a heavily armed group of thugs, en masse. It looked cool but I think any officer would realize that Civil War/WWI military tactics don't work against modern weapons.

Also, what's Nolan's deal with changing locations? It didn't even look like the Gotham City from the first two movies. No elevated rail, no narrows, no previous landmarks, no Arkham, and completely different geography.

 

[Darkmania]

Good movie, however I agree that so many of the scenes just seemed rushed, as if Nolan was trying to fit in as much as he could regardless of if a particular scene needed more time or not.

Also, did anyone else feel that some of the main characters seemed to dissapear for long periods of time?

 

[Black Narcissus]

This movie needed about 20 more minutes. I wish Nolan did a directors cut. I also hope for a dvd commentary with Bale.

 

[JAK®]

I actually don't think the movie was rushed, except maybe for how Bane was defeated.

I just think it's complexity took away from it's power, ever so slightly.

 

[Spider-Vader]

My biggest problem was no Joker, I obviously know he wasn't going to appear, but they should have had a throwaway line talking about what happened to him. Did they kill him? Is he in Arkham? Did they move him out of the city?

 

[Mace Dolex]

Just a few nitpicks here:

At the end Wayne Manor becomes an orphanage but what if a nosy kid happens to be playing the piano keys and opens the bookcase to the Batcave, oh well I guess all those ophan kids can train and become the Sons Of Batman.

With Gotham's bridges cutoff how did that the surrounding rivers turn to ice, yeah it was snowing but was it that extremely cold that rivers turned to ice?