The Dark Knight What do you think? Joker,live or die?

[Stevens25]

At the end of most films like this the bad guy always dies in the end. So,should the Joker meet the same fate in TDK?
I wouldn't mind at all seeing him live. The Joker's my second favorite baddie after Venom.

 

[The Kid]

He won't die. He'll get locked up in arkham or something like that. They surely won't repeat what burton did that extent...

 

[Symbiotic]

I say let him live, but let the Bat give him a decent beating first.

 

[Romero's Stache]

You can kill Jack.

You can't kill Cesar - besides nature.

The Joker will live forever.

 

[Speedball]

He'll live. His death was where the original Batman series "jumped the shark", if that can be applied to a film series.
The Joker is his nemesis, his arch-enemy, his Lex Luthor. You can't kill of the main baddie, even though he may not be in the next film.

 

[The Batman]

see spider man 1, please

 

[StorminNorman]

see spider man 1, please

Joker and Lex Luthor or more pop culturally relevant that Green Goblin.

Plus he had a legacy anyway - he was in every movie.

 

[Closerframe]

He'll live in this movie then well assume he's dead by the end of the 3rd film...

 

[Speedball]

see spider man 1, please

Green Goblin has died in the comics, as did Harry, so I don't really have a problem with him dying in the films. The Joker, who has never died (except for elseworlds), should not die in a Batman film.

 

[Capeless Hero]

You simply do not kill the best villian in the DC universe....I would venture to say the entire comic universe. He didnt kill Scarecrow, so I think we'll be ok with the Joker.

 

[Fanticon]

Batman's gonna get a Superman Returns sized beating. But I'm sure the Joker will be doing all the punching and kicking. Bats is probably gonna be dazed or hallucinating from a gas attack...if they want to keep it interesting...they should let the next film carry over into another Joker storyline...I thought the producers had said in an interview once that they're not going to be killing off villains...like in other comic book films...which will separate them from the others.

 

[The Kid]

you thought about batman vs the joker during the superman beat down too huh...

 

[Baba Ghanoush]

I think either could work depending on how the storyline plays out.

 

[Symbiotic]

If the Joker gives Batman a SR-like beating, I just hope that Bats pays him back.

 

[Sun_Down]

At the end of most films like this the bad guy always dies in the end. So,should the Joker meet the same fate in TDK?
I wouldn't mind at all seeing him live. The Joker's my second favorite baddie after Venom.

No. No. No. Part of the Joker's appeal as a Batman villain is that he's always there. He's a thorn in Batman's side and because Batman won't kill him himself, he will just keep coming back.

 

[NinjaTurtleFan]

Scarecrow should die after Joker beats him to a bloody mess for spraying him with fear gas. As for Joker he should have a fight with Batman, Batman wins, and sends Joker's pasty-white ass to Arkham where he spends his time till movie 3 when he breaks out by seducing a vulnerable blonde psychiatrist named Harleen Quinzell.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Joker could "die" in the third film after escaping from Arkham, but his "death" should be suspect from the beginning, mostly due to the fact that they don't find his body. Then, at least you could leave it open whether or not you bring him back in the future.

 

[millennium movies]

Joker should never die! He should be able to pop up either as mentioned or in a scene for every movie. Kinda like he used to do in BTAS.

PS: This should be a poll!

 

[xwolverine2]

PS: This should be a poll!

xw2 agrees.


he MUST NOT DIE!
i was enraged when ras died.. dont dissapoint me again please

 

[Killing Joke926]

Long live the Clown Prince of Crime!t:

 

[millennium movies]

i was enraged when ras died.. dont dissapoint me again please

He didn't "die" really...

 

[tang126]

He should live, definitely. Be locked up in Arkham or whatever, but still alive and a threat. Maybe carry over to a third movie, where it's a big free-for-all with Joker and Two-Face.

I'd prefer these new films not take the Burton and Schumacher approach and feel like they have to toss in every villain from the comics because, let's face it, they get kinda silly...I don't think there's a way to do Riddler and Penguin without the camp (or the whiff of camp and "ewwww, this is kinda lame").

Joker and Two-Face are legit hardcases and bad men. Let Batman tangle with those two in this movie and, if necessary, one more.

But I'll go so far as to say this: I don't need a third movie either. There's no law saying "The Dark Knight" can't be a completely satisfying two-hour or so experience, with a defeated - but still alive - Joker, and a triumphant Batman heading out into the night to do his thing.

I just have a thing about third movies in a franchise...ugh.



Two works fine: introduce a story, establish a vibe and "rules". Then make ONE sequel, expand on it a bit, toss some unexpected elements into the mix ("Luke, I am your father", etc.), resolve some things and leave a few things hanging for fans and movie buffs to talk about for years to come ("Star Wars", "X Men", Burton's Batman, Raimi's "Spider-Man" and "The Godfather" all should've stopped after their second one; leave on a high note, leave 'em wanting more...but nooooooooo, gotta go and make those turdfest third entries don't they?).

Trilogies, schmilogies...so trumped-up, meaningless and "expected" nowadays, isn't it?

 

[killingyouguy]

Joker could "die" in the third film after escaping from Arkham, but his "death" should be suspect from the beginning, mostly due to the fact that they don't find his body. Then, at least you could leave it open whether or not you bring him back in the future.

Agree. Pretty much.

In TDK I don't want Joker to die. Either he's locked up in Arkham (most likely) or still on the loose. If they bring him back in a future movie than it's possible he could "die" in that film. But like AndrewGilkison said, his "death" should be suspect and it should leave open the option to bring him back in the future.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

I agree that some franchises should've stopped after the second one. Terminator comes to mind. T2 closed the book perfectly, and a third one couldn't be done without basically undoing everything the second one did. It also came years too late to boot.

But comic book characters like Batman and the X-Men have decades of history to draw from, so they don't need to end after a second one. Just keep corporate interference to a minimum and let Nolan tell his story, and I think we could have a great follow up to TDK.

 

[killingyouguy]

But comic book characters like Batman and the X-Men have decades of history to draw from, so they don't need to end after a second one. Just keep corporate interference to a minimum and let Nolan tell his story, and I think we could have a great follow up to TDK.

I love the X-Men but X3 was absolutely terrible.