What....If any....Classic Bond elements would you like to see in Bond 23 ?

[StrainedEyes]

Or you could have just made the very obvious assumption that I was disappointed with its lazy implementation into QoS, especially given the thread.

Thankfully, most forum posters don't need such a demanding level of clarification, or else we'd all go crazy trying to specify the innate implications of our statements.

There was a youtube video where someone edited it into the front of the movie... and I have to say it didn't work. Obviously it wasn't professionally edited so it was supposed to go there, ie the circle turning into the scene and spreading out to fill the screen, but still it felt off.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I think they definitely need to get a proper villain in for the next ones. And that villain should have a "No.2" IMO. Maybe not with a weird gimmick or whatever but ALL good Bond villains have a main henchmen or henchwoman, not just a load of generic bullet fodder.

 

[Matt]

I think they definitely need to get a proper villain in for the next ones. And that villain should have a "No.2" IMO. Maybe not with a weird gimmick or whatever but ALL good Bond villains have a main henchmen or henchwoman, not just a load of generic bullet fodder.

Maybe go back to the Red Grant model for a henchman? That way they can live in Craig's "realistic," Bond world, give Bond a physical rival and be a nostalgic bonus for Bond fans.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Maybe go back to the Red Grant model for a henchman? That way they can live in Craig's "realistic," Bond world, give Bond a physical rival and be a nostalgic bonus for Bond fans.

Yea that sounds pretty good. I don't particularly want to see gun toting midgets and Koreans with metal rimmed bowler hats!

 

[xwolverine2]

gadgets and tricked out car so long as they are believable... like batmans hardware

 

[Matt]

Yea that sounds pretty good. I don't particularly want to see gun toting midgets and Koreans with metal rimmed bowler hats!

I wouldn't mind seeing a main villain who can be a physical threat to Bond though, in which case the henchman is not needed. Someone along the lines of Alec Trevelyan who is in my opinion the best Bond villain to date, as he was essentially the anti-Bond. He could anticipate Bond's every movie, match his skills, etc.

 

[Matt]

gadgets and tricked out car so long as they are believable... like batmans hardware

I don't even see how they have to be "believable." I don't want anything ridiculous like the invisible car, but I am fine with a laser watch or the car that can be steered with the cell phone, and that type of thing. I mean, people are praising a movie for its realism that is about a terrorist who stored water in caves via dams in order to cause a drought to sell water to a third world dictator he was installing. Not exactly realistic. I don't get this whole mentality that you need realism in a movie about a super spy stopping massive terrorist organizations from various world domination schemes.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I wouldn't mind seeing a main villain who can be a physical threat to Bond though, in which case the henchman is not needed. Someone along the lines of Alec Trevelyan who is in my opinion the best Bond villain to date, as he was essentially the anti-Bond. He could anticipate Bond's every movie, match his skills, etc.

Yea Trevelyan is my favourite Bond villain. It's like what if Bond got disillusioned with this "Queen and Country" stuff and became twisted and bitter with it all. And yea the fact that he was always at least one step ahead made him a great villain.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Lots of interesting feedback.

Personally I am not interested in seeing Q or Moneypenny again, if they want to add strong continuity support characters, then I'd like to see Felix Liter's role beefed up.

The main thing I'd like to see is the music cue back in on the money shots and the "Bond.........James Bond" line.

Gadgets I can take or leave, the tricked out car might be fun if well executed and not done with a sense of tongue in cheek irony.

I wouldn't mind seeing a main villain who can be a physical threat to Bond though, in which case the henchman is not needed. Someone along the lines of Alec Trevelyan who is in my opinion the best Bond villain to date, as he was essentially the anti-Bond. He could anticipate Bond's every movie, match his skills, etc.

I agree, he is my favourite as well. I wouldn't mind seeing a villain who could match Bond mentally and physically, a rival agent.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Always liked Scaramanga for the same reason as Travelyan; of course, being played by Christopher Lee wasnt exactly a disadvantage either.

 

[StrainedEyes]

Alec and Blofeld are the best Bond villains.

Alec because Goldeneye is just an all around fantastic film. "For England James?" "No, for me." Is probably my favorite scene in the series.

Blofeld because he was one of the few continuities in the series and was a lingering threat, and was involved in killing Bond's wife, making it personal. Then they made him a cross dressing clone, Then they lost the rights to him and threw him into a smoke stack while he yelled about giving Bond a "Delicatessen in stainless steel." What a bad way for such a cool character to go.

 

[Immortalfire]

"Bond, James Bond."

Leaving that out is damn crime.

 

[xwolverine2]

I don't even see how they have to be "believable." I don't want anything ridiculous like the invisible car, but I am fine with a laser watch or the car that can be steered with the cell phone, and that type of thing. I mean, people are praising a movie for its realism that is about a terrorist who stored water in caves via dams in order to cause a drought to sell water to a third world dictator he was installing. Not exactly realistic. I don't get this whole mentality that you need realism in a movie about a super spy stopping massive terrorist organizations from various world domination schemes.

i dont see anything unrealistic about that

 

[StrainedEyes]

i dont see anything unrealistic about that

Are you kidding? It's creating a new society in space or under sea all over again!

 

[xwolverine2]

lol wtf

 

[Spider-Fan]

You can add all these things, but these two movies do have their own sense of realism also. The gadget and car should be nothing too outrageous, and I do feel Q needs somewhat of update. I don't want the next Bond movie quite as serious as QoS (which I still liked), but I also don't want the formula to be completely back. This Bond series has a different feel than the other 20, and that shouldn't be ignored.

Moneypenny is easy.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Are you kidding? It's creating a new society in space or under sea all over again!

C'mon - no way was Greene's plan as outlandish and unbelieveable as Drax's or Stromberg's plans.

 

[StrainedEyes]

I'm kidding, I don't agree with Matt. That's what this means.

 

[xwolverine2]

morgan freeman should be Q lol

 

[Brian Braddock]

I'm kidding, I don't agree with Matt. That's what this means.

You were embarrassed for him?

t:

 

[The Guard]

We need to see these things in each movie, not every now and then. I understand that CR and QoS are one big movie, per say, so it's excusable this time......

We did see these things. In both movies. Just not in the same ways we have in the past (cheese laden).

 

[Matt]

C'mon - no way was Greene's plan as outlandish and unbelieveable as Drax's or Stromberg's plans.

Keep in mind though, I'm not the one who made those comparrisons, Geo was. All I am saying is, it is snobbish to sit around and act as if Greene's plan was the pinnacle of realism and the Craig Bond movies are the British equivilant to The Good Shepherd. These are still pretty outlandish, escapist, spy FANTASY movies. It is hypocritical to complain about the lack of realism in a gadget like a laser watch or a grappling hook when Bond is stopping someone from forcing a drought to sell the water.

 

[SatEL]

Die another day put me of Gadgets, I think they should stick with what works which is the new elements they have implemented.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Quite;

There are different levels of believability and realism.

There are also limits as to just how much one someone can/is willing to suspend their disbelief.

An invisible car is stretching it.

 

[Matt]

And I do not believe one person here has asked for Die Another Day-esque gadgets.