Homecoming What should they do with the Spidey franchise? - Part 1

[Stormz96]

If it means anything, I feel Garfield's spidey really captures the spidey I grew up with in the late 90s early 2000s. I guess that's why I would love to see him as a more mature spiderman, drawing more from modern era Peter. I think it would be cool for him to be working for horizons in a film or even being a teacher like he was during the civil war era. Plus it makes sense considering Garfield himself is in his thirties. A time jump seems like a likely scenario for freshening up the franchise

 

[degraves93]

If it means anything, I feel Garfield's spidey really captures the spidey I grew up with in the late 90s early 2000s. I guess that's why I would love to see him as a more mature spiderman, drawing more from modern era Peter. I think it would be cool for him to be working for horizons in a film or even being a teacher like he was during the civil war era. Plus it makes sense considering Garfield himself is in his thirties. A time jump seems like a likely scenario for freshening up the franchise

Maybe at the end of TASM3?

 

[Stormz96]

Maybe at the end of TASM3?

That makes sense, I mean we probably wouldn't meet JJ if Peter isn't doing freelance to pay the bills. Plus oscorp would probably have to fall before Horizons pops up

 

[degraves93]

That makes sense, I mean we probably wouldn't meet JJ if Peter isn't doing freelance to pay the bills. Plus oscorp would probably have to fall before Horizons pops up

I'd be perfectly fine without JJ being introduced again. Peter as a teacher would be awesome.

 

[Stormz96]

I'd be perfectly fine without JJ being introduced again. Peter as a teacher would be awesome.

I always felt Peter was at his happiest teaching. And yea I could go without JJ, I'd miss him though

 

[degraves93]

I always felt Peter was at his happiest teaching. And yea I could go without JJ, I'd miss him though

How the hell could you compete with Simmons? And welcome to the Hype!

 

[Stormz96]

How the hell could you compete with Simmons? And welcome to the Hype!

Thanks! And you really couldn't top Simmons, that's why they should just have him reprise the role if JJ ever returns (from some comments I've heard from Marc Webb, that may not be so far fetched)

 

[spiderman2]

word i guess i just misinterpreted your post or watever


you'll have to get me some statistic that shows me no one likes garfield. i think at best that it is mixed but i do not think he's universally hated

That is because he is not. He is closer to being universally loved then hated. Even most people that thought the movie was bad liked Garfield and most people like him more the toby. The problem is not him it is that a lot of people found the story was not good or to chessey ect.

 

[Venom'sDad]

Had Max/Electro character been taken seriously, with a real motivation, we probably wouldn't be having this conversation right now.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

That is because he is not. He is closer to being universally loved then hated. Even most people that thought the movie was bad liked Garfield and most people like him more the toby. The problem is not him it is that a lot of people found the story was not good or to chessey ect.

well that's just a problem with screenplay and writing. I say... continue going forward with bringing garfield to the goddamn mcu

 

[Frodo]

That is because he is not. He is closer to being universally loved then hated. Even most people that thought the movie was bad liked Garfield and most people like him more the toby. The problem is not him it is that a lot of people found the story was not good or to chessey ect.

I don't know if i'd go that far, at least with the GA. I think alot of fans of the comics like him more than Tobey but I don't know if I'd go as far as saying most people like him more than Tobey.

As someone who was old enough to be aware of the OT's heyday, I can tell you he was very popular and was praised as Spiderman by critics , fans, and the GA alike. I think you have that with Garfield as far as the fans and critics go but I'm not sure I would go as far as including the majority of the GA the way Maguire was.

 

[W/ Great Power]

From a neutral point of view, I would say that Maguire's Spidey had/has more fans than Garfield does at the moment, despite Garfield doing a great job with what he's been given.

That's why there was such a backlash when the reboot was announced. No matter what, for those of us who were old enough to genuinely experience the OT, Maguire will always be engrained in our minds whether we like him or not. He was the first Spidey onscreen, and that milestone itself is the reason he'll always hold a special place for us as fans.

I like Garfield as Spidey as well, but I think a lot of people can agree to what I stated above.

 

[spider-neil]

I don't know about him being dead wrong, but I wouldn't even call the reception to Garfield 'mixed at best'. Garfield and Stone were the most consistently praised aspects of both films.

Plus, why are fans calling his Spidey a jerk now? First they complain about not enough quipping, then they complain about too much quipping. I've come to the conclusion that a population of fans with never be happy with anything, even if he's moved to the MCU, they'll whine about something. I guess it's because it's easier to hate something than it is to like something despite its flaws. I'm not talking about constructive criticism, I'm talking about needless hate.

I felt in ASM Spider-Man was finding his feet. His quips were there but they were a little 'off' it was coming off as unlikeable especially when he was laughing when the crook was crying out for help. In ASM I thought Spider-Man's quips were spot on and especially when he pulls Rhinos pants down.

In ASM Peter Parker was out and out unlikeable but I understood why especially with the loss of his father figure. Peter was a lot more likeable in ASM2. Both in ASM and ASM 2 I thought Garfield gave good performances, a character can give a good performance and still be unlikeable, if that makes sense.

Maguire's PP was likeable enough but 'HATED' his Spider-Man and disliked that at no time did Maguire show any aspects of Spider-Man personality (in the comics) when he was out of costume. Total character shift. 'Did your husband make that for you'. Where the heck did 'that' come from? Screw wish fulfilment, personality changes have to come from 'somewhere' or I'm not buying it.

 

[spiderman2]

I don't know if i'd go that far, at least with the GA. I think alot of fans of the comics like him more than Tobey but I don't know if I'd go as far as saying most people like him more than Tobey.

As someone who was old enough to be aware of the OT's heyday, I can tell you he was very popular and was praised as Spiderman by critics , fans, and the GA alike. I think you have that with Garfield as far as the fans and critics go but I'm not sure I would go as far as including the majority of the GA the way Maguire was.

While ok maybe not everyone like say 90% like him better then toby but I would say more then 50% of people like him more then toby including me and yes I am on hear but I have never really read the comics more just played the spider man games and watched the movies and played the games. I like both toby and Garfield but Garfield is easily the better of the 2.

 

[spiderman2]

I don't know if i'd go that far, at least with the GA. I think alot of fans of the comics like him more than Tobey but I don't know if I'd go as far as saying most people like him more than Tobey.

As someone who was old enough to be aware of the OT's heyday, I can tell you he was very popular and was praised as Spiderman by critics , fans, and the GA alike. I think you have that with Garfield as far as the fans and critics go but I'm not sure I would go as far as including the majority of the GA the way Maguire was.

I think that has more to do with what people thought about sm 1-3 compared to asm1 and 2. If asm1 and 2 where consider has good of movies has sm1 and 2 and yes even 3 has i think more people like 3 compared to asm2 I don't think this would even be talked about at all.

 

[degraves93]

I'm just irritated with the outsize hate this franchise gets, and I'm especially irritated with the people who want S6 to fail just so he can get moved to MCU. That's just freaking stupid.

 

[Spider-Ock]

I'm just irritated with the outsize hate this franchise gets, and I'm especially irritated with the people who want S6 to fail just so he can get moved to MCU. That's just freaking stupid.

Hear hear. We have had many such posters on here who have nothing but irrational hate for a movie that has not even had any details about it announced yet. Honestly, it really is a bad time to be on these boards right now.

 

[HanShotFirst]

I just "accidentally" glanced at my Amazing Spider-man 529 and started crying again. Tears won't stop.

Gods are so cruel!

 

[Spider-Ranger]

Hear hear. We have had many such posters on here who have nothing but irrational hate for a movie that has not even had any details about it announced yet. Honestly, it really is a bad time to be on these boards right now.

The hate towards S6 is nothing compared to Josh Trank's F4 reboot

I don't get both parties though... how can you "hate" something you haven't seen a bit of yet?

 

[TheWallCrawler]

The hate towards S6 is nothing compared to Josh Trank's F4 reboot

I don't get both parties though... how can you "hate" something you haven't seen a bit of yet?

because they already basically told that they aren't doing Doctor Doom justice

it's not like we have gotten the iconic classic version of Doctor Doom yet so why on earth would they decide to go this left field with it

 

[LEVITIKUZ]

From a neutral point of view, I would say that Maguire's Spidey had/has more fans than Garfield does at the moment, despite Garfield doing a great job with what he's been given.

That's why there was such a backlash when the reboot was announced. No matter what, for those of us who were old enough to genuinely experience the OT, Maguire will always be engrained in our minds whether we like him or not. He was the first Spidey onscreen, and that milestone itself is the reason he'll always hold a special place for us as fans.

I like Garfield as Spidey as well, but I think a lot of people can agree to what I stated above.

I agree with this and it is coming from a neutral POV too.

Look at how Michael Keaton is still praised as one of the best Batmen. We had Val who did look much more like Bruce in the comics, had a film that actually focused on Bruce and Wayne Enterprises, but his film wasn't as good.

Because Tobey was Spidey for 2 great films, people like him. Sure he gets made fun of for the third film but how many good third films are there? All I could think of is Indy 3 & Jedi.

Andrew's films have been mixed. If Andrew's films were praised, he would be more beloved as Spidey.

 

[JOE]

Because Tobey was Spidey for 2 great films, people like him. Sure he gets made fun of for the third film but how many good third films are there? All I could think of is Indy 3 & Jedi.

Return of The King.

 

[LEVITIKUZ]

Return of The King.

Well since I've returned, nobody has called me King but I'll take the title.

 

[JOE]

Well since I've returned, nobody has called me King but I'll take the title.

Just watched it last night so it was fresh in my mind. Easily the best ending to a trilogy out there. I'm hoping the last Hobbit movie is half the movie ROTK was.

 

[LEVITIKUZ]

Just watched it last night so it was fresh in my mind. Easily the best ending to a trilogy out there. I'm hoping the last Hobbit movie is half the movie ROTK was.

You missed the joke. I haven't been here for weeks (missed all the praise for the Aunt May solo film), and I took it as you were saying "Return of the King" as hey Levi's back.