World Which film had the best swinging scenes??

Which movie had the best swinging scenes??

  • Spider-Man

  • Spider-Man 2

  • Spider-Man 3

  • The Amazing Spider-Man

  • The Amazing Spider-Man 2


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The fight in the Power Plant looked like a PS2 videogame, there was nothing believable about it. The design of the costume doesn't help either, the big Spidey eyes make it look like a cartoon.

PD: The Sandman visual effects are more impressive than anything in TASM series.

lol I have no idea what ps2 video games you have been playing. People are just crazy like 90% of CGI now days you can even tell that it is CGI in less it is some low budget movie like shark nado or a tv show or something.
 
Hmm, I think a lot of the CGI in TASM2 did look fake though. Just look at the power plant scene where Electro says, "And I will be like a God to them!"

Yes I agree that that little moment right there did look fake. Lol
But the rest of the film was very well done.
 
lol I have no idea what ps2 video games you have been playing. People are just crazy like 90% of CGI now days you can even tell that it is CGI in less it is some low budget movie like shark nado or a tv show or something.

Or The Hobbit films lol
 
The fight in the Power Plant looked like a PS2 videogame, there was nothing believable about it.
Like spiderman 2 so perfectly put it a couple pages back: If TASM2 looks like a PS2 game then SM-1 looks like an SNES game. :funny:

Anyways the main thing I like about TASM 1 & 2 over the Raimi swinging scenes are just how real they feel. The others were great for their time, but with the new films, I can really believe that it's a real person in the suit as Spider-Man. His movements and swings feel so believable, he doesn't swing the exact same way every time, his movements and falling feel more realistic. It just feels like a real person. And the camera helps a lot too. It feels like I'm right there swinging with Spidey.
 
Like spiderman 2 so perfectly put it a couple pages back: If TASM2 looks like a PS2 game then SM-1 looks like an SNES game. :funny:

Anyways the main thing I like about TASM 1 & 2 over the Raimi swinging scenes are just how real they feel. The others were great for their time, but with the new films, I can really believe that it's a real person in the suit as Spider-Man. His movements and swings feel so believable, he doesn't swing the exact same way every time, his movements and falling feel more realistic. It just feels like a real person. And the camera helps a lot too. It feels like I'm right there swinging with Spidey.

Couldn't agree more my friend, great post
 
Raimi pushed the envelope of the last decade in terms of cgi and directing/camera tricks. Raimi invented a new filming technique. Webb just used cgi. Raimi did something special. Webb didn't.

Also to those saying the CGI in SM1-3 looks terrible to ASM1-2...see you in 10 years and see what you say lol. Guess what, ASM1-2 will look like crap in 10 years. Sad thing is, a lot of ASM2 already looks like crap...particularly the final fight sequence. It looked like a video game.

The fight in the Power Plant looked like a PS2 videogame, there was nothing believable about it. The design of the costume doesn't help either, the big Spidey eyes make it look like a cartoon.

PD: The Sandman visual effects are more impressive than anything in TASM series.

Agreed with these posts. A lot of cgi in Webb movies look fake and unnatural. That's why the swing scenes feel unreal and fake.
 
Like spiderman 2 so perfectly put it a couple pages back: If TASM2 looks like a PS2 game then SM-1 looks like an SNES game. :funny:

Anyways the main thing I like about TASM 1 & 2 over the Raimi swinging scenes are just how real they feel. The others were great for their time, but with the new films, I can really believe that it's a real person in the suit as Spider-Man. His movements and swings feel so believable, he doesn't swing the exact same way every time, his movements and falling feel more realistic. It just feels like a real person. And the camera helps a lot too. It feels like I'm right there swinging with Spidey.

The thing I like about the asm1 and 2 swing over the sm 1-3 swings are a few things.

1. We see sm doing more flips and role and such witch shows of his agility that is something we didn't see much of in sm 1-3. Also how he climbs up on the webs at times something else we didn't really see in sm 1-3.
2. The spend and him running across and jump of the side of builds kind of like you can do in the asm1 and 2 games with the web rush control only it looks way more realistic in the movie then the game. These 2 things we didn't really have much of in sm 1-3.
3. Finally more so with sm 1 then 2 and 3 but he looks more like he is flouting when swinging where in asm1 and 2 it looks more like he is acctrucly swinging.

Asm1 and 2 clearly have better web swinging then sm 1-3 but at least people are voting more for sm2 then 1 and 3 has 2 has aged much better then 1 or 2 has in just about ever way.
 
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There's one scene of electro particularly just as Spidey enters the powerplant that looks REALLY bad.

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That actually legitimately only looks a bit better than the electro from "The Amazing Spider-Man 2" on Ultra settings on PC (If I could replay missions on the game I could prove it but ya'll will just have to believe me)

I loved the Raimi films but the swinging was not as good as TASM/2. The reboot captured Gravity and momentum, captured the elasticity of the web, mad Spiderman himself react to the environement he was creating, as in, he'd fall away to the left or right depending on where he'd put his weight, he'd flip and move through the air naturally, the web allowed natural rigid changes in direction, increases and even decreases in speed. The TASM series had fluid, fast paced, realistic defections of momentum, Gravity and speed.

The Raimi series I did genuinely love and what they achieved a decade ago was nothing short of astonishing, but spider-man does not react to the environment around him; he looks like a second dimension of the scene, as if he's not actually there. He has slight moments of gravity defiance as the stitch the next swing in and I think the biggest thing is he just sorta stays the same. He has no real variation in his day to day swinging. The biggest thing is gravity and momentum however, the Raimi Spiderman just didn't follow it as well, given that the technology was old. An example would be the train sequence, as Spidey flings himself up towards the train, he goes over a building. The direction he went in should have seen him just clip the building but as he reaches it he sorta starts floating up and up before sharply falling down. Another example is the final swing in Spiderman 1 where he is swinging towards the flag. It's as if some magnetic force begins to pull him towards the flagpole. He's up in the air, floating very slowly, and all of a sudden he dips sharply towards the flag. Another thing you can see in pretty much any swing is the delayed transition between the end of one swing and the start of the other, this one is harder to explain in words but he basically sorta jilts a bit, and then jags up before before falling down sharply, and then shoots out a web again and does the exact same action with little variation.

It just didn't have the fidelity and variation of the reboot series. And that just comes down to the current tech. You can say "oh it'll look crap in ten years" but SM1-3 will look even worse as they never captured physics to today's standards, and to be honest I'm not sure how much more accurate the physics engines can get these days, as they're getting more and more accurate. Obviously future films are going to look a hell of a lot better, but I think TASM1-2 will always look more natural then SM1-3

That's not saying that the Raimi series is bad because it really isn't, but both series use CGI in the swings, they're both "cgi fests" if you want to call it that.

At the end of the day, it's folly to claim 10 year old CGI is better then the current stuff.

I understand Spider2099's arguement of the context behind the scenes, but in terms of the raw swings themselves Raimi's are outclassed and that's nothing to be ashamed of
 
Raimi pushed the envelope of the last decade in terms of cgi and directing/camera tricks. Raimi invented a new filming technique. Webb just used cgi. Raimi did something special. Webb didn't.

Also to those saying the CGI in SM1-3 looks terrible to ASM1-2...see you in 10 years and see what you say lol. Guess what, ASM1-2 will look like crap in 10 years. Sad thing is, a lot of ASM2 already looks like crap...particularly the final fight sequence. It looked like a video game.

The fight in the Power Plant looked like a PS2 videogame, there was nothing believable about it. The design of the costume doesn't help either, the big Spidey eyes make it look like a cartoon.

PD: The Sandman visual effects are more impressive than anything in TASM series.

Agreed with these posts. A lot of cgi in Webb movies look fake and unnatural. That's why the swing scenes feel unreal and fake.

These people get it. It's gratifying to see not everyone is seduced by a new wave of CGI over the better older SFX.
 
You do understand that the Raimi films didn't use pure SFX right? There was computer stuff there as well!

Firstly, the CGI looks better, so im happy to be seduced or whatever

Secondly, the actual physical motions of TASM/2 look better than the Raimi series, that's a realllly hard point to argue against as you're basically arguing against reality.

I'll whip out GIFS if I have to
 
You do understand that the Raimi films didn't use pure SFX right? There was computer stuff there as well!

Of course I realize that. I never said there wasn't any.

Firstly, the CGI looks better, so im happy to be seduced or whatever

It's why Michael Bay has a career. CGI seduction.

Secondly, the actual physical motions of TASM/2 look better than the Raimi series, that's a realllly hard point to argue against as you're basically arguing against reality.

I'll argue it because I don't agree with it. Spidey looked more fluid, vibrant, and life like than your new obvious CGI Spider-Man.

I'll whip out GIFS if I have to

Knock yourself out. It won't change anything.
 
Of course I realize that. I never said there wasn't any.



It's why Michael Bay has a career. CGI seduction.



I'll argue it because I don't agree with it. Spidey looked more fluid, vibrant, and life like than your new obvious CGI Spider-Man.


Knock yourself out. It won't change anything.

You kinda implied there wasn't any when you're saying that the new Spiderman is CGI And can't beat the classic SFX. As andrew said, there's no point reasoning with someone who thinks that the swinging scenes were practical in the Raimi series

That's totally it, got it in one. Everybody who likes CGI likes Michael bay. Your one of those people who thinks CGI is evil aren't you?

You're actually going to have to prove that defying Gravity is fluid and lifelike

And it won't bother posting GIFS since you just admitted that nothing will sway you at all.
 
The Amazing Spider-Man, hands ****ing down!

1. The Amazing Spider-Man
2. Spider-Man 2
3. Spider-Man 1
4. Spider-Man 3
5. The Amazing Spider-Man 2
 
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I'm sorry but TASM1 had the most realistic swinging.
Tobey kinda just... floated in the air.
 
I don't think the TASM movies have ever won any kind of award for anything. Not even the actors have for either of them I don't think.
 
Don't get me wrong, I love the Raimi films. but it's just the truth.. TASM had better CGI.
 
If there's no stunt double then it's in part done by computer graphics.

I love the way you argue though. "Oh practical effects are always better, except when they're not like Dawn of the Planet of the Apes".

That's new age CGI mate.

Yeah, it did say Spider-Man floats, so did Mark Kermode, so do a lot of other people.

Even though you've already admitted nothing will change your mind.

[YT]/watch?v=MGeOjK0I7JY[/YT]

Look at how slowly he is falling here, and even rising, it's completely unrealisitc, hence, defying gravity. When he shoots out a web it has no impact on him whatsoever.

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Again, look how slow he's going. The most daming thing is how he gets to the flagpole.

He drifts up, and then zooms down, its as if for the first time in the movie, the power of America has allowed gravity to take hold on him.

Compare this to the amazing spider-man 1

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Body reacts to the pull of the web, momentum is real, gravity is real. Speed increases and decreases based on release of webb. Ie; realistic depiction of swinging.

Anyway, I think it's the soundtrack

[YT]/watch?v=hIhgcaTqpaI[/YT]

Start from 30 seconds in, Spider-Man is now Elf'd
 
I don't think the TASM movies have ever won any kind of award for anything. Not even the actors have for either of them I don't think.

No I don't think so either.

Don't get me wrong, I love the Raimi films. but it's just the truth.. TASM had better CGI.

Well the CGI is going to improve with newer films. That's just the natural progression of special effects.
 
The big eyes make it look like a cartoon??? What?? I guess the red and blue spandex suit makes it look like a cartoon as well. This is Spider-Man, he's supposed to have big bug eyes like that, it looked straight from the comics.

Not really, in the comics he didn't have that design for a long time.

:lmao:

Transformers earned awards for it's CGI. You're being pretty stupid if you think that classifies the CGI as super real and flawless. Or else your realistic trilogy wouldn't look so fake, right? Stop being so dumb, you're trying too hard.

Well the Transfomers movies have fantastic CGI do I don't know what's your point there.

Spider-Man's 2 visual effects were considered the best that year. On the other hand according to the Academy TASM 2's CGI is inferior to many movies that came out last year which means it is nothing special.
 
18 people on the poll are denying your 'truth'. Well done, all.
 
Not really, in the comics he didn't have that design for a long time.



Well the Transfomers movies have fantastic CGI do I don't know what's your point there.

Spider-Man's 2 visual effects were considered the best that year. On the other hand according to the Academy TASM 2's CGI is inferior to many movies that came out last year which means it is nothing special.

Point is simple, if you're willing to understand it. It won an award but it didn't made me say, "Oh, is that a real?", Spider-Man earned as well, and even at the time, it was possible to recognize what was real or not, these days? Well, it's super fake.

Except that it isn't, every single person besides the haters have praised the CGI, saying that it was superb, even more from those who've watched the movie at IMAX3D, like me. Even the reviews called it top nodge, which is the truth.

Now, saying that SM2 or any movie from the past trilogy has better CGI is pretty much BS. Or else every single recent CBM is inferior as well.
 
Point is simple, if you're willing to understand it. It won an award but it didn't made me say, "Oh, is that a real?", Spider-Man earned as well, and even at the time, it was possible to recognize what was real or not, these days? Well, it's super fake.

Except that it isn't, every single person besides the haters have praised the CGI, saying that it was superb, even more from those who've watched the movie at IMAX3D, like me. Even the reviews called it top nodge, which is the truth.

Now, saying that SM2 or any movie from the past trilogy has better CGI is pretty much BS. Or else every single recent CBM is inferior as well.

See this is the kind of one sided thinking you're arguing with. It is newer so it's better. The CGI is more advanced today so it automatically is better looking by default.

Oy vey!

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/gallery/10-classic-sci-fi-movies-632461

Just be glad the whole world isn't on that crazy train of thought.
 

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