Who do you want to see as Captain Marvel?

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Nope kiddo. In fact AS WAS POINTED OUT, some fans were indeed casting guys like Mark Valley at the time... By the way, Valley was like a real life Cap. Look his history up. And so... Again, how is the fact that Cheadle, Renner, RDJ, Boseman, and now Cumberbatch fit into your baseless theory on all this? Cuz, they were all to a man cast well over 35, and Boseman and Renner have parts far closer to Captain America and Thor than...


You know what... Screw this. All your, and others, rationales comes down to a very closed minded stance, that speaks of pure immaturity. No... I mean like ACTUAL maturity, like you are obviously under the age of 21 and don't have a clue about what you speak of and pull out these pretty ridiculous rationales that don't in any way pass the smell test. Point blank, if this wasn't a female, lead role, the age issue wouldn't even be a factor. All the foolishness about how it's such a taxing physical role and how older actors get bored (are you a psychic?) are frankly, just that. Foolishness. But it sounds like the foolishness of somebody that is WAY young, with a nice dash of unequal standard for men as opposed to women.

I'm not really buying the excuses either. And the "physical role" excuse is more than a little insulting. Glad that you reminded me that Boseman is 37 years old. Not old for a dude but ancient for a woman it seems.

 

[Visualiza]

I didn't realize that this was such a big issue for people. Several of the suggested actresses would be a good fit for the role...age is the last thing I'm worried about (If at all). I'm more concerned with what her rank will be relative to her age; I hope that small detail at least makes some sense. It can be a little difficult to buy into a twenty-something portraying a Colonel, but even so, that's small potatoes. Just a pet peeve of mine.

Whoever Marvel ends up going with, I just hope they turn in a performance comparable to that of RDJ, Evans, ScarJo, and Hemsworth.

 

[flickchick85]

I'm more concerned with what her rank will be relative to her age; I hope that small detail at least makes some sense. It can be a little difficult to buy into a twenty-something portraying a Colonel, but even so, that's small potatoes. Just a pet peeve of mine.

A peeve we share.

As to the argument that Cap and Thor were in their twenties when they were cast - the story called for them both to be young. Cap was just a starting recruit, and Thor's whole character arc is essentially a coming of age one, about a brash and arrogant young prince being taught a lesson by his father and learning what it really means to be a man and a king.

Carol's story calls for the opposite. It requires years of experience as a woman with a well-established and highly successful military career. Much more similar to someone like Rhodey. Her age should reflect that, imo. Not saying she needs to be the same age as him (though she IS the same rank as MCU Rhodey, but she will probably have risen through the ranks faster than him), but working side-by-side, they should be believable as two people with similar levels of career experience and expertise.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

[YT]Rm-vBq-1T1k[/YT]

C'mon grandma... Act your age. No one wants to see an old crone like you. I mean, in a few years you will be 40, with one foot in the grave.

 

[Dasher10]

A peeve we share.

As to the argument that Cap and Thor were in their twenties when they were cast - the story called for them both to be young. Cap was just a starting recruit, and Thor's whole character arc is essentially a coming of age one, about a brash and arrogant young prince being taught a lesson by his father and learning what it really means to be a man and a king.

Carol's story calls for the opposite. It requires years of experience as a woman with a well-established and highly successful military career. Much more similar to someone like Rhodey. Her age should reflect that, imo. Not saying she needs to be the same age as him (though she IS the same rank as MCU Rhodey, but she will probably have risen through the ranks faster than him), but working side-by-side, they should be believable as two people with similar levels of career experience and expertise.

This. Carol should be a MINIMUM of 27-years-old when the film releases. Preferably over 30. I'm even willing to have a Carol in her 40s.

My top choices are still Katee Sackhoff who'll be 38 and Dree Hemingway who'll be 31. There's no way that I can believe in a 23-year-old military officer with extensive combat experience. It just can't happen.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

[YT]Rm-vBq-1T1k[/YT]

C'mon grandma... Act your age. No one wants to see an old crone like you. I mean, in a few years you will be 40, with one foot in the grave.

Can I please bring up, at the time, 48 year old Sandra Bullock in Gravity as well?

 

[Spiderdevil]

Nope kiddo. In fact AS WAS POINTED OUT, some fans were indeed casting guys like Mark Valley at the time... By the way, Valley was like a real life Cap. Look his history up. And so... Again, how is the fact that Cheadle, Renner, RDJ, Boseman, and now Cumberbatch fit into your baseless theory on all this? Cuz, they were all to a man cast well over 35, and Boseman and Renner have parts far closer to Captain America and Thor than...

I wasn't around when they were getting cast and if I was,I would have wanted someone under 32-33, that's even lesser than my range for Captain Marvel (30-35),now how is that sexist?
Cheadle and Renner, for all practical purposes, are sidekicks, they are never gonna get their own movie and they will get killed sooner than later
Cumberbatch will not play an action hero per-se, like I said, I wouldn't care if they casted a 50 year old to play Scarlet Witch

For Black Panther,I would have wanted Michael B Jordon, but like I have said before, there are very few known black male actors in that age range (25-40) so they didn't have much of a choice, while practically every actress can play Captain Marvel

You know what... Screw this. All your, and others, rationales comes down to a very closed minded stance, that speaks of pure immaturity. No... I mean like ACTUAL maturity, like you are obviously under the age of 21 and don't have a clue about what you speak of and pull out these pretty ridiculous rationales that don't in any way pass the smell test. Point blank, if this wasn't a female, lead role, the age issue wouldn't even be a factor. All the foolishness about how it's such a taxing physical role and how older actors get bored (are you a psychic?) are frankly, just that. Foolishness. But it sounds like the foolishness of somebody that is WAY young, with a nice dash of unequal standard for men as opposed to women.

Okay,I don't mind you calling me immature but its ridiculous that you keep calling me sexist when I keep on mentioning how I would want to cast younger actors for action oriented lead roles irrespective of them being male or female

And no,I am older than 21

 

[Spiderdevil]

Thor can be any age, imo. Captain America needed to be younger because he's got the whole military recruit angle. There's a plot reason that makes sense. I'm not sure than an experienced airforce pilot can't be a little bit older, though.

What about Black Widow then?,she is supposed to be experienced spy with years of experience, and ScarJo was 25 when she was casted

Emily Blunt will be 33 when they start shooting, I think you can be an experienced pilot at that age, plus they don't need to make her very highly experienced/general status since that would beat the purpose of a character arc

 

[Spiderdevil]

I just don't get it, the idea that just because women reach a certain age, they're out of action-oriented roles. You have CGI and stunt doubles for the really hard stuff. Besides, as was stated earlier, those types of arguments are few and far between for the male actors.

Also, some of my friends who are endurance runners (running marathons or 50 miles races or triathlons)? 36-45 year old women. I just ran my first 13.1 half marathon and I'm 36. I'm planning on doing one half-marathon a year. My 36 year old body could kick my 18 year old butt.

I'm not trying to brag, but the notion that Carol Danvers, a high-ranking officer in the AF, has to be young in order to be believably active and action-ready is utterly ridiculous.

Yeah but the actresses mentioned (Theron and all) are not marathon runners or professional stunt-women

And you are completely missing the point, I don't have problems with them playing this role today, or even 5 years later, I have problems with them playing the role 10-12 years later, do you think you could run the way you do when you are 50?

There is a reason why Jackman is thinking about giving up the role of Wolverine, despite playing him 7 times in over 15 years because he finds it hard to keep up the hard work reguired, even Affleck had to use Steroids for Batman according to rumours

 

[Mike Murdock]

^ Hugh Jackman has had that role for 14 years. He's done his service. But I also don't think Captain Marvel needs a workout routine quite that rigorous anyway.

What about Black Widow then?,she is supposed to be experienced spy with years of experience, and ScarJo was 25 when she was casted

Scarlett Johansson (and Emily Blunt, who would have been 27ish) at the time of Iron Man 2 cause different problems. The biggest is they were KGB agents. Obviously, the KGB hasn't been around for quite some time. That being said, Avengers fixed this to some degree. When Romanoff used a little girl as a spy for her, she explained to Banner that she started that young too. She's still a touch young to really pull off being in the KGB, but she still can be 25 and have years of experience as a spy since she started that young. On the other hand, American air force pilots generally don't enlist when they're six or seven years old.

While I don't expect her to get with Matt Murdock, Charlie Cox is 31 years old right now and it would make sense for them to be comparable in age given their comic connections. She's also a year younger than Adrianne Palicki if we're going with Clint Barton comparisons.

Emily Blunt will be 33 when they start shooting, I think you can be an experienced pilot at that age, plus they don't need to make her very highly experienced/general status since that would beat the purpose of a character arc

I have no problem with Emily Blunt getting the role. But I also have no problem with Emily Blunt not getting the role (even if someone older is cast). If your point is just that you really want a specific actress, I have no problem with that (depending on who). If the point is "X actress is too old," I'd probably disagree. I'd like the actress to be young enough to likely stick around and lead a franchise for quite some time, but mid-30s or early 40s is certainly sufficient.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

Then why did they not cast a 40 year old Captain America or Thor? Answer that?

in Caps case: Story purposes. Steve Rogers WAS very young when he became Cap, younger than Evans as a matter of fact. They were true to the source material.

in Thors case it was different, the auditiont every male and their father before the settled with what they believed to be the best actor for the job (I agree with them) who just happend to be of a certain age

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

all the misogynic ageism aside, I have no strong opinion who should play Carol (as I'm completely indifferent to that character) and in an ideal world we would be getting Kerry Washington as Monica Rambeau, but since we are stuck with Danvers out of this list, personally I'd prefer Alice Eve for her acting range, which is phenomenal. Or Natalie Dormer if they decide to make here the granddaughter of private Lorraine.
Michelle Dockery is missing from the list above, but she is a great actress too.

 

[Iceman]

I love Scarlett but that IS a weakness of her Black Widow.

 

[The Shrike]

I picked Winnick, Chastain, Blunt, Strahovski, and Sackhoff, there's lots of excellent actress choices in their age range.

 

[Havok83]

So I just saw Edge of Tomorrow yesterday and after that, I fully support Emily Blunt as Captain Marvel. I will be disappointed if she's not bc I kind of have resigned myself to believing that she already is

 

[Nokio]

What about Black Widow then?,she is supposed to be experienced spy with years of experience, and ScarJo was 25 when she was casted

Emily Blunt will be 33 when they start shooting, I think you can be an experienced pilot at that age, plus they don't need to make her very highly experienced/general status since that would beat the purpose of a character arc

Well the thing about BW is that she was trained from a small girl to be a spy. Governments need young and sexy woman to seduce men and be unassuming. That's why youth works in their favor. Selecting kids and start training them as spies is believable. A woman entering the military at 18 and becoming a trailblazer, a respected commanding officer, and excellent fighter pilot, retiring and becoming a Government agent, then working for Shiled, then gaining Superpowers and becoming Ms Marvel, serving on the Avengers and then becoming Cap Marvel to honor Mar-vell all before 30 is simply unrealistic. Unless Marvel is going to rewrite Carol's history or use Mar-vell 's daughter Phala-Vell then an older actress is required.

The fact that the men on this board, well most of them are practically screaming that anyone over 30 is too old for Carol should tell you something. When names like Bree Larson and Margot Robbie an Amber Heard are being suggested for the role that should tell you the youth crazed males here don't care about acting ability or story and background believability. They want suspension of disbelief here that a 24 year old Robbie have accomplished a lot in a few years. Wow!

 

[Nokio]

Well casting Cap and Thor in their late 20's isn't the problem because Rogers was a new recruit and an experiment so he's fine and it was written in his history and origin that way. He made his mark as Captain America for years before he was frozen and thawed out 70 years later. Thor is entirely different all together. He is near immortal and older then all the other Avengers put together save for Sersi and Hercules so casting a late 20's Hemsworth was never ever a problem.

 

[Spiderdevil]

Scarlett Johansson (and Emily Blunt, who would have been 27ish) at the time of Iron Man 2 cause different problems. The biggest is they were KGB agents. Obviously, the KGB hasn't been around for quite some time. That being said, Avengers fixed this to some degree. When Romanoff used a little girl as a spy for her, she explained to Banner that she started that young too. She's still a touch young to really pull off being in the KGB, but she still can be 25 and have years of experience as a spy since she started that young. On the other hand, American air force pilots generally don't enlist when they're six or seven years old.

Okay that makes sense
They can give a similar back story to Danvers, she could have joined the airforce at 16-17 (people actually join the CIA and other armed forces straight after high school) so she could have had 17-18 year experience at 33

I have no problem with Emily Blunt getting the role. But I also have no problem with Emily Blunt not getting the role (even if someone older is cast). If your point is just that you really want a specific actress, I have no problem with that (depending on who). If the point is "X actress is too old," I'd probably disagree. I'd like the actress to be young enough to likely stick around and lead a franchise for quite some time, but mid-30s or early 40s is certainly sufficient.

30-35 is the perfect age range for me,thinking about long-term.But its not a hard and fast range, I won't mind someone 36 or 29 either if they are talented enough
Blunt would be the perfect casting for me of course, but I wont mind Chastain but I really don't see the fuss about Theron and don't think she brings anything new to the table

Another reason is that Blunt has been proven in action roles (Edge of tomorrow) in which she held her own opposite Tom Cruise, she trained 5 months for the role, learned Karv Maga and other fighting techniques, yoga and what not. And you have to agree that you could expect a younger person to show that kind of dedication more than an older person

 

[Spiderdevil]

Well the thing about BW is that she was trained from a small girl to be a spy. Governments need young and sexy woman to seduce men and be unassuming. That's why youth works in their favor. Selecting kids and start training them as spies is believable. A woman entering the military at 18 and becoming a trailblazer, a respected commanding officer, and excellent fighter pilot, retiring and becoming a Government agent, then working for Shiled, then gaining Superpowers and becoming Ms Marvel, serving on the Avengers and then becoming Cap Marvel to honor Mar-vell all before 30 is simply unrealistic. Unless Marvel is going to rewrite Carol's history or use Mar-vell 's daughter Phala-Vell then an older actress is required.

The fact that the men on this board, well most of them are practically screaming that anyone over 30 is too old for Carol should tell you something. When names like Bree Larson and Margot Robbie an Amber Heard are being suggested for the role that should tell you the youth crazed males here don't care about acting ability or story and background believability. They want suspension of disbelief here that a 24 year old Robbie have accomplished a lot in a few years. Wow!

Well I don't want someone younger than 30, 30-35 would work best for me

Also I don't want Captain Marvel to be as accomplished as you posted, simply because it beats the purpose of a character arc when the main character is already so highly accomplished and perfect

A rank of major or something similar to where Rhodie was in Iron man 1 would be good, Terrence Howard was cast at 38, so 33-34 would be believable for Danvers since she would rise through the ranks faster than Rhodie

 

[flickchick85]

Also I don't want Captain Marvel to be as accomplished as you posted, simply because it beats the purpose of a character arc when the main character is already so highly accomplished and perfect

Are you saying someone that accomplished can't have a character arc? Because that's a part of who she is, and she's always been highly accomplished, even before she became Ms. Marvel. And it doesn't make her "perfect." It makes her bold, hard-working, talented, and often overly confident and stubborn. When you challenge the worldview of someone like that, you've got an insta-character arc.

Her backstory should be a part of her arc too. She's someone who was never expected or allowed to amount to much, even by her own family. So she essentially disowned them and worked 10x harder than everyone else around her to become the best of everything she could be. And yet, it was never enough. Which is why flight is her one true love - the lack of limits, and the freedom. She's someone who has always felt tethered to the ground in one way or another, and in inhereting those powers, that tether is finally broken. She had a long-standing goal to beat the sound barrier record set by her aviation hero, and she suddenly has the ability to do that without breaking a sweat. So now that she actually has the ability to go just about anywhere in the universe and do anything, she has to create her own tether, her own new goals/purpose and finally has to figure out where she WANTS to belong.

She's a woman who dedicated her life to becoming the best of the best, to reaching the top level of everything. And now she's faced with the notion that the greatest achievement she could ever dream of was basically...nothing. Extremely small potatoes when faced with what's really out there and possible.

There's plenty to work with there in terms of her character arc, imo, without taking away her many accomplishments.

 

[mocomic]

You always need to consider age on these movies. There is a reason for the multi year contracts. Presumption is that a younger actor won't become long in the tooth.

Paul Rudd is a poor defense actually. His casting was part of the Edgar Wright vision. Not very happy with wasting Pym with a 70 year old casting.

When we get Our Captain/Ms Marvel I want her around a long time. Therefore need to start out with best actress available . Realize youth is an asset going forward.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

You always need to consider age on these movies. There is a reason for the multi year contracts. Presumption is that a younger actor won't become long in the tooth.

Paul Rudd is a poor defense actually. His casting was part of the Edgar Wright vision. Not very happy with wasting Pym with a 70 year old casting.

When we get Our Captain/Ms Marvel I want her around a long time. Therefore need to start out with best actress available . Realize youth is an asset going forward.

Paul Rudd isn't a defense, he is in fact playing Ant-Man because Marvel wants him to, if they didn't want him they would have dropped him. Rudd is 45 years old and playing a Marvel Superhero. That is a stone cold fact.

If you aren't worried about 45 year old Rudd, 38 year old Cumberbatch or 38 year old Boseman being able to do their roles for 15 years then you shouldn't worry about an actress around that age being able to stick around for the long term.

Actors are paid to look good and stay in shape so worrying about such a thing is silly.

 

[Suzanne78]

Are you saying someone that accomplished can't have a character arc? Because that's a part of who she is, and she's always been highly accomplished, even before she became Ms. Marvel. And it doesn't make her "perfect." It makes her bold, hard-working, talented, and often overly confident and stubborn. When you challenge the worldview of someone like that, you've got an insta-character arc.

Her backstory should be a part of her arc too. She's someone who was never expected or allowed to amount to much, even by her own family. So she essentially disowned them and worked 10x harder than everyone else around her to become the best of everything she could be. And yet, it was never enough. Which is why flight is her one true love - the lack of limits, and the freedom. She's someone who has always felt tethered to the ground in one way or another, and in inhereting those powers, that tether is finally broken. She had a long-standing goal to beat the sound barrier record set by her aviation hero, and she suddenly has the ability to do that without breaking a sweat. So now that she actually has the ability to go just about anywhere in the universe and do anything, she has to create her own tether, her own new goals/purpose and finally has to figure out where she WANTS to belong.

She's a woman who dedicated her life to becoming the best of the best, to reaching the top level of everything. And now she's faced with the notion that the greatest achievement she could ever dream of was basically...nothing. Extremely small potatoes when faced with what's really out there and possible.

There's plenty to work with there in terms of her character arc, imo, without taking away her many accomplishments.

Yes! This about sums up Carol Danvers' recent book. Which is why I think KSD's work with Carol has been really pretty awesome thus far. And I hope she's a consultant on the movie.

 

[guy66657]

Yes! This about sums up Carol Danvers' recent book. Which is why I think KSD's work with Carol has been really pretty awesome thus far. And I hope she's a consultant on the movie.

I hope to god that she'll be a consultant on this film just as Brubaker was on TWS which I think really really helped that film. KSD has such an amazing voice for Carol and knows her so well that I think it'd be crazy to not have her be a part of it.

 

[smashmode]

Paul Rudd is like 45 or something, where are all the complaints about his age? Benedict Cumberbatch is 38, why not complain about how many sequels he can do?

Because Paul Rudd hasn't aged a day since Clueless.

kidding, sort of.