Homecoming Who should be the Villain in Spider-Man (2017)? - Part 3

[AvegningSpider]

I think the real villain of this film will be the fans.

Spider-Man vs The Collector

 

[spideyboy_1111]

they likely will be going smaller to bigger threats. As kevin did mention that awhile ago about supporting players and wanting to film feel more smaller scale like antman did. Then oh nyc is getting blown up once again by x baddie of the week. So going from the normal street thugs, to slightly powered guys, to the bigger more world threats is likely how they are going to go about things. I still curious to see how the villains will play into the hs plot and so forth.

As for villains yes almost all top lists for spidey put the osborns, ock, and venom as the top 3. Does that mean they are the only worthy guys no. He has plently of other a and b listers who be great in film too. As for the c/d list guys i still say i would love to see a few used here and there in the films as a minor montage action scene and spidey taking them out and we have more then just 1 or 2 foes he takes out over the course of the films and be oh spidey only has delt with these guys only. So you know we are building his world and hero career more and what not.

most of spidey's rogues are street level... and operate as such.. even ock and osborn have had small schemes that fit within the description. Though yes.. some villains want to destroy the city but it all depends on the story...

Electro, Ock, Osborn,are all villains who can have a threat level or plan to destroy the city really... and previous villains, Lizard (in Amazing Spider-Man 1), Ock (in spidey 2), Electro (in Amazing 2) and a story arc like "Maximum Carnage" where the villain is a major threat to the city.... or plans on crippling it (like Bane in TDKR) is not going to be happening...

but that doesn't limit the villain choices to street level gangsters either.

 

[Webhead2006]

i like venom myself. But i rather see mcu take on character done right and build him up. Same goes for new takes on ock, goblins, and lizard. Build up there pre villain selfs over a few films then have them turn later.

 

[PeterBenParker]

they likely will be going smaller to bigger threats. As kevin did mention that awhile ago about supporting players and wanting to film feel more smaller scale like antman did. Then oh nyc is getting blown up once again by x baddie of the week. So going from the normal street thugs, to slightly powered guys, to the bigger more world threats is likely how they are going to go about things. I still curious to see how the villains will play into the hs plot and so forth.

 

[ernesth100]

I just hope every villain doesn't have a personal connection with Peter or Spider-Man before becoming a villain.

 

[AvegningSpider]

I just hope every villain doesn't have a personal connection with Peter or Spider-Man before becoming a villain.

No, i mean that would be horrible, every villain should have a connection ALWAYS (For those unaware, this is sarcasm )

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I just hope every villain doesn't have a personal connection with Peter or Spider-Man before becoming a villain.

I say keep it like the source material. If they have a personal connection in the books.. keep it... if they don't, don't force one. If it's not broke, don't fix it

 

[Webhead2006]

Yes I been saying that for awhile now. Not everyone needs to be tied to peter. Again the only ones who should be close or close to peter is the osborns, connors, miles warren, and brock to a degree. The rest should not have any ties to peter.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Yes I been saying that for awhile now. Not everyone needs to be tied to peter. Again the only ones who should be close or close to peter is the osborns, connors, miles warren, and brock to a degree. The rest should not have any ties to peter.

And Ock (if they go the Capt Stacy/Betty Brant's Brother route in he being the one who killed them) and of course if you count Mac Gargan Scorpion and his ties to JJ...

 

[Webhead2006]

Them to a degree I mean I just don't wsnt them knowing who peter is and peter shouldn't know mac if they go private wye route or just a con and doc ock should know of him if he was a famous scientist prior to going bad.

 

[LEVITIKUZ]

I feel that Norman, Eddie, Harry, and Connors should be the only ones who have a relationship with Peter.

Having said that, I never minded if Doc Ock was sort of a mentor figure like in SM2. A scientist Peter looks up to sorta. I never felt that was handled poorly. I also never minded Sandman. Feel like that's because one of my favorite Batman episodes was Chill of the Night and I love seeing Batman confront Chill years later. While there would have been more meat to Sandman's backstory if Sony let Raimi use Vulture, I really like how it was handled. We see Spidey going after Sandman for revenge and later in the film after Sandman explains his backstory, Spidey forgives him. It's something I could never see Batman doing and that fits Spidey. Spidey forgiving his Uncle's killer says a lot about his character. Having said that, plus dont have Sandman or Ock have any connection in the new series. In fact, don't use Ock for a while.

 

[Webhead2006]

Ya but you could easily done that with the carjacker if he didn't die from falling out the widow. Like how spidey confronted the burger in the comics many yrs later and so forth.

 

[LEVITIKUZ]

Yea but there's something poetic about Sandman and what he did with his powers. When Peter got his, he decided to use them for his own benefit and win money fighting. Sandman meanwhile decided to steal money but it wasn't for himself. It was for his daughter. We have our hero acting selfish at first and our villain acting selfless at first.

I'm not saying I want Sandman as Uncle Ben's killer but how Raimi handled it was good.

 

[CaptainWagner]

I like the Ock as a mentor idea much more than Norman as a mentor. Mostly because Ock is much more sympathetic than Norman.

 

[AvegningSpider]

I like the Ock as a mentor idea much more than Norman as a mentor. Mostly because Ock is much more sympathetic than Norman.

Make Ock the mentor but have him be the opposite to Peter, what he could have been if he would had been bitter to everyone in his life including his friends and show Doc Ock as the nerd gone wrong.

 

[CaptainWagner]

Make Ock the mentor but have him be the opposite to Peter, what he could have been if he would had been bitter to everyone in his life including his friends and show Doc Ock as the nerd gone wrong.

Yep. That right there is why I feel Ock is Peter's #1 villain.

 

[I'm Batman.]

i like venom myself. But i rather see mcu take on character done right and build him up. Same goes for new takes on ock, goblins, and lizard. Build up there pre villain selfs over a few films then have them turn later.

How many more times are you going to say that? You repeat yourself all the time.

 

[Webhead2006]

I am sorry it was in relation to the poster I was replying you don't have to get all uppy at me. We are all going to repeat things over and over. As we don't have much new stuff to go on.

 

[Ken-Kaniff]

I won't lie, for me some of the best villains in Spider-Man are The Green Goblin, Doc Ock and Venom. All of 3 of them already made it to the big screen, one being almost perfectly executed (Ock), one that was great, but had a lame suit (Goblin) and one that was an EPIC FAIL (Venom). But if I would get to choose, I wouldn't want this reboot to take off with villains such as The Vulture, Shocker or Chameleon (don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind them as SECONDARY villains, if it would make sense to the plot! In fact, I would preffer Mysterio & Kraven more as secondary villains that those I mentioned), they need to bring some of the best villains and stories on the big screen! Plus, what interesting/captivating storyline can you even make with such rogue villains like Rhino & Vulture for example?

 

[AvegningSpider]

Vulture: Revenge story of ressentment.
Rhino: None
Spot: Make him an actual character.

 

[The Joker]

Make Ock the mentor but have him be the opposite to Peter, what he could have been if he would had been bitter to everyone in his life including his friends and show Doc Ock as the nerd gone wrong.

Yep. That right there is why I feel Ock is Peter's #1 villain.

 

[ernesth100]

Different people different opinions guys.

 

[Webhead2006]

still i would hate if marvel skipped out on goblin/ock/venom totally. That would be a real shame not to use them. More so when we would likely see them use at some point. Still would be good to use them but dont go straight to there villain state make them minor supporting guys over first 2 films. Then by the 3rd solo we do venom if we get symboite prior. Or we do goblin, or ock. Still my idea would be 3rd film be sinister six. And we play ock as his master planner identity pulling strings through the first two films and so forth. Then we can do goblin/iron patriot deal like others said with norman for maybe a dark reign/seige type arch after infinity wars.

 

[Closerframe]

I definitely see Marvel avoiding similar story structuring with what Sony did meaning, we won't get GG in the very first film, we won't get a story that leads up to GG, and we won't get personal connections of every villain he faces. I can easily see Scorpion or Vulture being the villain in the first movie, with Kingpin acting in the background--which would connect Daredevil to Spider-Man, then seeing Hobgoblin in the sequel.

 

[AvegningSpider]

I definitely see Marvel avoiding similar story structuring with what Sony did meaning, we won't get GG in the very first film, we won't get a story that leads up to GG, and we won't get personal connections of every villain he faces. I can easily see Scorpion or Vulture being the villain in the first movie, with Kingpin acting in the background--which would connect Daredevil to Spider-Man, then seeing Hobgoblin in the sequel.

I myself think that if they have Kingpin, he could be funding the Sinister Six. As for Hobgoblin, i could easily see Phil Urich being him, instantly having the connection to Ben from Daredevil.