Homecoming Who should be the Villain in Spider-Man (2017)? - Part 4

[spideyboy_1111]

I thought he meant tone down his performance, not tone down the violence. Everyone in the Netflix series are more violent. But they don't have to be for Spider-Man film. Fisk could still be behind the scenes pulling strings somewhere. He could also threaten Aunt May and destroy Peter Parker's life if he learned his identity, so there's more than just physical ways of fighting Spidey.

well performance there's nothing to tone down imo.. his violence and language sure.

but the dichatomy of his seriousness with spideys jokes would be great.

 

[BatsDC]

Just don't show the violence. Have it happen off screen. There are ways of getting around it. I'm sure you could pluck any character from Daredevil and put them in a lighter situation. Hell, the Daredevil / Elektra dynamic was much lighter-hearted than the other stuff in the season.

 

[Tg11]

Kingpin would probably be best used like as a background villain like operating in the shadows but still being a part of the forefront sort of like how Thanos is being used in that regard

 

[CaptainWagner]

I don't know how Kingpin would be best incorporated. It would require a Film/TV synergy we've yet to see. Because who knows what the Daredevil show runners have planned. Me, id be happy to see the likes of Silvermane (Morgan Freeman, please), Tombstone, and Hobgoblin running the gangs in Spidey's neck of town.

 

[I'm Venom]

Kingpin should be the villain with a couple of enforcers just to give Spider-Man a physical threat.

 

[Tg11]

I love your take on a new Spider-Man trilogy in the sense of the 1st film villains being Kingpin and Vulture with Eddie Brock in a minor role and then the sequel being Kraven's Last Hunt with a Sub-Eater subplot and Spidey getting the symbiote in the sequel and the 3rd film being Venom's coming out party with him as the villain

 

[I'm Venom]

I'd only want them to do Kraven if they went all the way with it. Include Vermin, reference the fight with Captain America, etc. And it needs to end with the suicide. But I think that's too dark for a movie, isn't it?

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

I'd only want them to do Kraven if they went all the way with it. Include Vermin, reference the fight with Captain America, etc. And it needs to end with the suicide. But I think that's too dark for a movie, isn't it?

Maybe an attempted suicide, but I don't see them going all the way. That's dark for just about any character let alone spider-man

 

[Venom'sDad]

They could just mention Kingpin by name...in otherwords, when villains like Wrecking Crew goes after Spidey, then let it be understood they are doing Kingpin's bidding.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Let's see where Kingpin is in the Netflix universe by the time we get to the movie. He could be dead for all we know.

 

[Tg11]

If Kingpin is alive then he should be included in the Spideyverse but another character who should be given consideration is The Jackal or Morbius the Living Vampire or Hobgoblin but if Kingpin is moved into the movie universe then I would be all for it but by doing that they essentially would have to include Matt Murdock/Daredevil

 

[SymbioticToxin]

They could just mention Kingpin by name...in otherwords, when villains like Wrecking Crew goes after Spidey, then let it be understood they are doing Kingpin's bidding.

Maybe not the Wrecking Crew, since they're more Thor villains (Weird, I know), but the idea of Kingpin hiring someone to take out another vigilante infringing on his comeback or on his work in general is pretty good. Probably wanna go with a Spidey villain though.
Maybe Tombstone, since that'd make sense with him being a gangster, or The Enforcers.

 

[Venom'sDad]

Yeah, your right...Wrecking Crew probably wasn't the best example; but, appreciate you got what I was saying...and that would be a good way to introduce Tombstone to the big or small screen.

 

[Mike Murdock]

I want Tombstone as well, but a good alternative to the Wrecking Crew would be The Enforcers.

 

[Venom'sDad]

Agree

 

[CaptainWagner]

To make Kraven's suicide work, he wouldn't be able to be the main villain in the film. They wouldn't let it end on that note, if they allowed it at all.

 

[ernesth100]

I just wanna see Spidey taking on some street thugs. I love it when one hero takes on multiple villains at once. Thor vs Frost Giants, Captain America Elevator Scene, Iron Man vs Terrorists and who could forget the Hallway scenes of Daredevil?

Scenes like that I want in Spiderman.

 

[Venom'sDad]

Peter(AG) took on about eight thugs in the alley

 

[SymbioticToxin]

If they used Kraven, I wouldn't want them to use his suicide as an ending or at all. I get that's a huge story for him and Spidey in general but there's no real reason you have to include it if you use him.

 

[Supa]

Since Vulture is rumored to be the villain, I've been checking out a bunch of old stories. They've actually done some interesting things with him that I never really appreciated, and he has a lot of depth I don't think many writers, let alone many writers outside of the comics, have really touched upon.

Like in Marvel Knights he has an adoptive daughter and a grandson that he genuinely cares for, and he was actually friends with Aunt May's fiancee Nathan, and actually came to Aunt May for forgiveness when he died. There's this running theme of Vulture trying to prove that even as an old man he's still capable and useful.

Vulture's ususaly just portrayed as some old fart who robs banks or steals people's youth or something, so it's actually pretty interesting to see him with some more depth.

 

[terry78]

I say again make the focus the criminal underworld with a mob war going on between Tombstone, Enforcers, Silvermane and Hammerhead. Spidey gets caught in the middle and is trying to deal with putting a stop to it because it's spilling out causing civilians to get hurt or killed(it reminds him of the random crook that did Uncle Ben), all while dealing with his sophomore/junior year.

 

[Venom'sDad]

Exactly....I agree. I would like something like this.

A teen, Peter Parker, who's still dealing with the death of his beloved uncle, judgement is clouded, in dealing with not only his home life; but, all the inherent pressures of high school, the faculty, and his more popular peers.

Simultaneously, his alter-ego, Spiderman, is caught on dangerous grounds, as tensions build between law enforcers & more powerful aided criminal elements, fester. Adding to the emergence of a new stealthy figure...either uniting or over throwing NYC's old underworld syndicates.

Yet something, much more concerning...beyond the capacity of rational comprehension is occurring, that could signify danger, for the whole globe.

 

[Spider-Fan83]

To make Kraven's suicide work, he wouldn't be able to be the main villain in the film. They wouldn't let it end on that note, if they allowed it at all.

what if they use son of Kraven (Alexei Kravinoff) first, and he's the one who dies, then later you can bring in Sergei (his father out for revenge)

 

[CaptainWagner]

what if they use son of Kraven (Alexei Kravinoff) first, and he's the one who dies, then later you can bring in Sergei (his father out for revenge)

Still, I highly doubt they'd let a movie end with the suicide of ANY villain. If it were to happen, it would have to end with another villain being beaten heroically.

 

[AvegningSpider]

As much as we get any villain, i hope the movie, specially this movie (Spider-Man Homecoming), doesn't become another ''Will the hero beat the bad guy and save the day''.
I want the drama go back to what it was in the era they seem to be take inspiration from, the 60s, the Ditko/Lee/Romita era and have it be ''Will the hero beat the bad guy so that he can go back to his regular life/ date with a girl/ end his homework/ finish his test/ go back home before 2:00.
That's the drama that Spider-Man it's all about and what made SM2 so great, the drama of a teenager that's also a superhero and him having to balance it or try to not cause clash between two worlds.
The problem shouldn't be saving the world from the big corporation, or from the powerful bad guy, it should be Peter's regular everyday life, his life as Spider-Man and how it affects him.