Homecoming Who should reboot villain be? (Poll Version)

[I'm Batman.]

Yeah, something like that. It sounds very simialar to the first episode of of Spectacular Spider-Man, which I have been pushing for a long time. Basically, I think Spectacular Spider-Man can serve as the perfect model for the adapting the new MCU Spider-Man!

And for myself, I think Vulture seems like the perfect starting villain, since we would rather wait and develop Green Goblin and Doc Ock. Mysterio isn't bad, I always dug his look from when I watched the old 60's cartoon. It's just Vulture has a natural connection to the MCU with Falcon and if his seeking vengeance against Osborn, that gives you a perfect intro for Norman in the MCU, who has huge potential as the MCU big bad in a later phase.

But, I can see maybe starting off with both Vulture & Mysterio, as I'm sure Marvel would like to build up to the Sinister Six.

Easily a one and done character, perfect for a first movie. And he could be saved for later if they go for Sinister Six. I thought up my own idea for a movie if things ever rebooted again and I had Kingpin and Vulture as first villains with Vulture being hired by Kingpin to stop the new hero who has been interfering with his business. It seemed all perfect in my mind when I set it up that I can't help but think of him as having movie potential as a starter villain. I feel like guys like Kraven and Scorpion need an established Spidey to be utilized fully. Unless they were to significantly change characters from their comic counterparts.

 

[THUNDERSTRIKE]

Using the recent red and black look would go a long way for Vulture's appearance.

ugh... that was an ugly look... doubt if they'll ever use that costume over the classic look...

 

[TheWallCrawler]

The only thing I altered was that Spider-Man would be the reason why Beck was unable to garner fame. Consequently, that is an insignificant alteration in terms of scope. I linked two independent incidents and violated the rule of correlation and causation to give a slight nudge to the existing motive and actions of Mysterio.

I didn't really rewrite Mysterio, as much as I filled in the gaps of an existing narrative and gave the idea more of a dramatic push. The same could not be easily done for Eddie Brock. Brock's characterization and motives are thin. He was essentially a poor man's Eugene "Flash" Thompson, down to sharing similar haircuts and being the jock type. In fact, that realization makes me question why Marvel didn't use Flash in the first place. In fact, that would have been more interesting because Flash idolizes Spider-Man, which would have led to some interesting psychology on the part of an empowered Flash Thompson.

Anyway, having Brock lose a limb or a loved one would be superficial. For one, there are plenty of Spider-Man villains that play up that angle. Then there is the fact that unless Spider-Man caused Brock to lose his limb or loved one, there would be no real reason for Brock to hate Spider-Man or Parker. As it stands, Brock didn't even have much reason to hate Peter in the comics. I never bought their rivalry because it was so forced, and so sloppy. Ned Leeds was a far superior rival, both at the Bugle and in costume. Brock just can't fill the shoes based on his hodge podge backstory and characterization which has clearly been borrowed from the two aforementioned influences (Leeds and Thompson).

you know, for a moment I thought I was totally on top of this debate. it's really rare that someone manages to change my opinion in arguments like this

as far as the symbiote stuff goes though, I would love to have Agent Venom if Flash is developed enough eventually, and I wouldn't mind seeing a black costume arc with the new Peter Parker. They didn't really take advantage of the character study potential last time

 

[CaptainWagner]

I say Vulture. He doesn't really require much time to set up. Easily a one and done character, perfect for a first movie. And he could be saved for later if they go for Sinister Six. I thought up my own idea for a movie if things ever rebooted again, and I had Kingpin and Vulture as first villains with Vulture being hired by Kingpin to stop the new hero who has been interfering with his business. It seemed all perfect in my mind when I set it up that I can't help but think of him as having movie potential as a starter villain. I feel like guys like Kraven and Scorpion need an established Spidey to be utilized fully. Unless they were to significantly change characters from their comic counterparts.

Thing is, how would they make Vulture into a "big bad". He's never been more than a low level threat.

 

[Oscorp]

Thing is, how would they make Vulture into a "big bad". He's never been more than a low level threat.

I can easily see Vulture come up with major schemes and plans that reaches above simple bank robbing stuff.

 

[Boom]

I'm going to go with Doc Ock working with Kingpin.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

I can easily see Vulture come up with major schemes and plans that reaches above simple bank robbing stuff.

care to share em?

 

[Oscorp]

care to share em?

I don't have any good ideas, but I can easily picture Vulture as a "schemy" villain.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

I don't have any good ideas, but I can easily picture Vulture as a "schemy" villain.

yeah, there's some potential

how about the character theme is him thinking that he's... above everyone else

play me off Paul!

 

[THUNDERSTRIKE]

yeah, there's some potential

how about the character theme is him thinking that he's... above everyone else

play me off Paul!

you didn't REALLY say that, did you?...

 

[The Infernal]

ugh... that was an ugly look... doubt if they'll ever use that costume over the classic look...

None of Vulture's looks really look all that great when it comes down to it. Though that's probably in part due to Vulture generally looking like a frail old guy in a stuffed parrot costume. When it comes to any movie adaptation I would imagine they would go with a more tech based look with maybe nods to the comic costume at best. Plus they may go with an actor similar to Colm Feore, who may be older, but certainly doesn't appear frail.

 

[THUNDERSTRIKE]

None of Vulture's looks really look all that great when it comes down to it. Though that's probably in part due to Vulture generally looking like a frail old guy in a stuffed parrot costume. When it comes to any movie adaptation I would imagine they would go with a more tech based look with maybe nods to the comic costume at best. Plus they may go with an actor similar to Colm Feore, who may be older, but certainly doesn't appear frail.

if they can do something for the Falcon, then they can do something for the Vulture... definitely pass on the 'parrot' costume' per se, but I was just never thrilled with that venomous Vulture with the spit and that particular look to his costume... but no doubt, the Vulture's outfit WILL be tech-based... it only makes sense since Adrian Toomes is knowledgable in creating such a costume and not just the backpack energy source...

 

[GoldGoblin]

They could give Vulture a helmet that protects his head and a color visor,but the visor comes down his face in the shape of a beak where his cheeks aren't covered.

 

[THUNDERSTRIKE]

They could give Vulture a helmet that protects his head and a color visor,but the visor comes down his face in the shape of a beak where his cheeks aren't covered.

minus the visor, they gave the second Vulture, Blackie Drago, a helmet back in ASM #63-64...

 

[Pecola1]

I'm going to go with Doc Ock working with Kingpin.

I agree. If they have kingpin in Daredevil that doesn't mean they can't introduce him into spiderman. It may make it harder, it may make it easier. I also think Doc. Oc. is a great choice, he is part of what made Spider Man 2 so great.
I would just add Shocker.

I think whatever they do they should make unusual. I would hate to have another green goblin as the main bad guy storyline, we've had two of those already, it would be as bad as re-doing origins. Skip the green goblin, you can reference him if you want, but pretend either he was already dealt with, or won't be dealt with soon.

 

[CaptainWagner]

They could give Vulture a helmet that protects his head and a color visor,but the visor comes down his face in the shape of a beak where his cheeks aren't covered.

I'd definitly want to see a beaked visor. Add that to the Spectacular Spiderman suit (from the cartoon) and it work pretty well on screen.

 

[Urich Leeds]

The new film should be Spidey vs the Mob, with the primary villain being Tombstone. That said, we should see Shocker (MAAAYBE Rhino as well) show up as hired muscle.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

a Spider-man film with a mob... it has to have some really good writing to be entertaining

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Why get that small-girth loser when you have fricking Kingpin at your disposal.

 

[Daedalus]

Oh, everyone's entitled to their opinion. I was responding to your comment that you could see Cranston as Norman, but not the Goblin. The clip from Breaking Bad was to support my case that he could also play the Goblin as well (that laugh,man).

I never made such a comment. My preference for Isaacs actually comes from the opposite side of things: I think Cranston would be incredible as Green Goblin, but Isaacs embodies Norman better.

I can easily see Vulture come up with major schemes and plans that reaches above simple bank robbing stuff.

Agreed.

Why get that small-girth loser when you have fricking Kingpin at your disposal.

Because it`s probable they will want to keep Kingpin Daredevil`s nemesis from a storytelling perspective. I`m not a huge fan of Tombstone either (I`d rather have Silvermane), but he can be Underworld Big Bad just as effectively as Kingpin.

 

[ernesth100]

Plus, if this movie is called Spectacular Spider-Man like most have expected and rumored. Tombstone being a Mob boss would be a great homage to the Cartoon.

 

[The Infernal]

Has anyone actually rumoured that? I've seen repeated posts from certain users insisting they should simply call the movie that or they should use SSM as a blue print for what to do for the next Spider-man movie. However I don't recall seeing an actual rumour that could be the actual title.

 

[ernesth100]

Has anyone actually rumoured that? I've seen repeated posts from certain users insisting they should simply call the movie that or they should use SSM as a blue print for what to do for the next Spider-man movie. However I don't recall seeing an actual rumour that could be the actual title.

http://screenrant.com/drew-goddard-spider-man-director/
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/03/02/drew-goddard-rumored-to-write-and-direct-spider-man-reboot

 

[Dylan_Is_A_Nerd]

I think spidey should start off smaller kraven is a good choice but i think someone like tombstone would be a good choice since he is a big part of the newyork crime bosses and this could connect to other villains and could have spidey face off against multiple foes that are goons of tombstone and tombstone could give peter that feeling of can i make a difference in this city since tombstone could undo all of peters work and while fighting spidey cant just one punch knock him out and that would have to make peter think more in there fight but thats just my opinion heres a link for tombstones wiki page

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tombstone_(comics)

(just copy and paste)

 

[ernesth100]

Aw cool, new member. I agree, Tombstone would be a good replacement for Kingpin. It's either him or Hammerhead, since Kingpin is on Daredevil.