The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Who would be the best MJ?

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And let's be honest, if they were truly happy and satisfied with their approach to MJ in TASM2, the character wouldn't have been completely scrapped from the film.

...just because YOU'RE not happy with it doesn't mean they weren't. we were given a reason as to why mj was cut and, as far as we're concerned and until reports come out indicating the opposite, that was the truth.
 
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...just because YOU'RE not happy with it doesn't mean they weren't. we were given a reason as to why mj was cut and, as far as we're concerned and until reports come out indicating the opposite, that was the truth.

Well... Let's see...what we do know for a fact?

MJ's scenes were cut because they didn't jive well with the rest of the script and were interfering with Peter and Gwen's scenes (which I still think is something that would have crossed their minds during pre-production as the script was being written, as opposed to well after filming the scenes).

Nothing from TASM2 will be reused, and they will be rewriting the character's introduction for either TASM3 or 4 (with or without Woodley in the role).

It's clear as day, that Webb and co. were not completely happy or satisfied with their approach to the character (whether or not it was just a timing issue) and think that a better job could be done at some point in the future. To what extent remains to be seen. As far as I'm concerned, anything is possible. What we saw of the character in TASM2 isn't necessarily an indication of what we will see in the future. All of the character's scenes ended up on the cutting room floor.

And just because YOU were happy with it, doesn't mean that they were. It works both ways.
 
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Well... Let's see...what we do know for a fact?

MJ's scenes were cut because they didn't jive well with the rest of the script and were interfering with Peter and Gwen's scenes (which I still think is something that would have crossed their minds during pre-production as the script was being written, as opposed to well after filming the scenes).

Nothing from TASM2 will be reused, and they will be rewriting the character's introduction for either TASM3 or 4 (with or without Woodley in the role).

It's clear as day, that Webb and co. were not completely happy or satisfied with their approach to the character (whether or not it was just a timing issue) and think that a better job could be done at some point in the future. To what extent remains to be seen. As far as I'm concerned, anything is possible. What we saw of the character in TASM2 isn't necessarily an indication of what we will see in the future. All of the character's scenes ended up on the cutting room floor.

And just because YOU were happy with it, doesn't mean that they were. It works both ways.
nitpicking, not fact. the only facts are that mj was cut because marc said he wanted to focus on peter/gwen and avi said two girls in a movie was too much. this is verbatim, btw. that's it. anything else about character approach or whatever is (biased) interpretation.
 
^ Isn't Gwen the "school girl"? So why make MJ the same? That is a terrible idea.

Let's be honest...

Woodley looked terrible in the scene pics we saw. Calm down you Wooleyites, I'm not necessarily blaming her. Her look was all wrong and the character, working at a diner, was bad.

Those in the power realized, after viewing the photography, that something wasn't working. If they didn't want MJ because it was going to take away from Peter and Gwen, then she wouldn't have been written in. So it was an after fact change. They likely looked at the filming, said this isn't working, and came to the conclusion that MJ (and Shaelene) weren't needed and possibly not wanted.

Now, they could go many different way from this point. They can come right back with the same character and the same actress, but I believe it is safe to say that the majority of stakeholders didn't like what they saw of the character and didn't like what they saw of Shaelene as the character.

So they could start over, make her better and possibly get a new actress.
 
nitpicking, not fact. the only facts are that mj was cut because marc said he wanted to focus on peter/gwen and avi said two girls in a movie was too much. this is verbatim, btw. that's it. anything else about character approach or whatever is (biased) interpretation.

How was that nitpicking? And bringing up personal bias doesn't help your argument, because one could easily argue that your interpretation of 'the facts' is just as (if not more) biased than mine. I'm not doubting that the Peter/Gwen thing was legitimately one of the reasons why the character's scenes were dropped.

Personally, I just can't believe that was the ONLY reason for removing MJ's scenes, since realistically speaking, it's something that Sony, Webb, or the writers most likely thought about before wasting money on casting an actress for the role. I believe that Webb feels as though he can do a better job with the character at a later point in time. Now this is just speculation based on what little information they have given us, and you can choose to believe whatever you want. What we do know is that MJ was cut, MJ's introduction will be rewritten at a later point in time, Woodley was great to work with, Woodley may or may not return, and the film was 'streamlined to focus on Peter and Gwen'.

But Webb has not gone in depth about his plans for the character (Whether or not he will keep the direction that he originally intended, make some slight adjustments, or take the opportunity to do something completely different). Heck, he probably hasn't even made a decision yet. As I've said before, any incarnation of the character and any actress (or actor) for the role (including Woodley herself) is a possibility at this point.

And lol Ben Affleck for the role would be great. My only criticism is that he's a little too old for MJ. :cwink:
 
Woodley would be a great MJ as well. I actually hope she will be available for the role.
 
How was that nitpicking? And bringing up personal bias doesn't help your argument, because one could easily argue that your interpretation of 'the facts' is just as (if not more) biased than mine. I'm not doubting that the Peter/Gwen thing was legitimately one of the reasons why the character's scenes were dropped.

Personally, I just can't believe that was the ONLY reason for removing MJ's scenes, since realistically speaking, it's something that Sony, Webb, or the writers most likely thought about before wasting money on casting an actress for the role. I believe that Webb feels as though he can do a better job with the character at a later point in time. Now this is just speculation based on what little information they have given us, and you can choose to believe whatever you want. What we do know is that MJ was cut, MJ's introduction will be rewritten at a later point in time, Woodley was great to work with, Woodley may or may not return, and the film was 'streamlined to focus on Peter and Gwen'.

But Webb has not gone in depth about his plans for the character (Whether or not he will keep the direction that he originally intended, make some slight adjustments, or take the opportunity to do something completely different). Heck, he probably hasn't even made a decision yet. As I've said before, any incarnation of the character and any actress (or actor) for the role (including Woodley herself) is a possibility at this point.

And lol Ben Affleck for the role would be great. My only criticism is that he's a little too old for MJ. :cwink:

i'm not interpreting the facts, i am giving the facts. i never said "marc never said she sucked so she's obviously the best omgzz you bunch of haters, she's better than everyone!!!!!!111". i listed the reasons we were given and i'm saying that speculating, for good or bad, any further is bias, interpretation and wishful thinking.
 
I thought this was the 'Who would be the best MJ?' thread not, 'Pick any hot random actress and call her MJ'? Seriously, you guys see a pretty face and think 'she would make a good MJ' but have you even seen the actress act? Because some of these actresses that people pointed out (like Anahi) would make a horrible MJ.
 
Well my Angelique pick was based all on looks and I wasn't being serious....but I wouldnt mind if she could mask the accent lol

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I thought this was the 'Who would be the best MJ?' thread not, 'Pick any hot random actress and call her MJ'? Seriously, you guys see a pretty face and think 'she would make a good MJ' but have you even seen the actress act? Because some of these actresses that people pointed out (like Anahi) would make a horrible MJ.

Anahí has an Ariel Award, that is the highest award given by the Mexican Academy of Arts and Sciences, it is not just a pretty face, it's a good actress and has awards to prove it, now, I understand the prejudice for being an ex RBD.
 
i'm not interpreting the facts, i am giving the facts. i never said "marc never said she sucked so she's obviously the best omgzz you bunch of haters, she's better than everyone!!!!!!111". i listed the reasons we were given and i'm saying that speculating, for good or bad, any further is bias, interpretation and wishful thinking.

Right and I never said " omgzzz Woodley sucksss. You guys, Marc obviously cut her scenes cuzz he wantss to replace her with a hottter actress. doubt she'll be back!!!!!!!" So that argument makes no sense to me. In fact, my argument about Marc not being satisfied by certain aspects of the character and the scenes in TASM2 had nothing to do with Woodley. I think that you've been confusing people on this forum.

Do we know for a fact whether or not Marc was happy with his approach to MJ? Nope, because he has never said anything to that effect.

Do we know if he will change certain aspects of the character for the next film ? Nope, he hasn't divulged his plans for the character. If he even has any plans.

Do we know whether or not Woodley will return for the role? Nope, we will find out sometime next year.

But that's the point that I've been trying to make. Based on what little information we have been given, it is a fact that anything is possible for this character in the next film. Marc may choose to keep the direction for the character that was used in TASM2 or change it (along with the actress). Neither scenario has been confirmed nor denied by the studio. Probably because they don't know yet.
 
So is SW definitely out? She did look quite bad in the set pix that are all over the Internet.
 
I've always been on board with Lyndsey Foncesca and now that she was basically lopped out of Kick Ass 2, I think she'd be perfect.
 
So is SW definitely out? She did look quite bad in the set pix that are all over the Internet.

she's still signed.

I thought this was the 'Who would be the best MJ?' thread not, 'Pick any hot random actress and call her MJ'? Seriously, you guys see a pretty face and think 'she would make a good MJ' but have you even seen the actress act? Because some of these actresses that people pointed out (like Anahi) would make a horrible MJ.

it's good this thread exists, it proves that no matter how much some fanboys say they do care about acting and talent, it's all hogwash. what matters most when it comes to the women cast in comic book movies is the looks.
 
Haha, 'the Wodleyites,' that's a good name for her fans. Or do you think there's an even better one than that?

I like the girl Any Carolina keeps posting, Anahí, although I wonder if she is too old for the part now?

My list, Jane Levy, Deborah Ann Woll, Lynsey Fonesca, Elena Satine, Margot Robbie, Amber Heard, Gabrielle Wilde. There are some others others have suggested who I would be fine with.

FYI, Gabrielle Wilde:
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And this chick. Would have been good, but she's too old now.

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April Bowlby from Two and a half men.
 
If you think that Shailene's scenes being cut had something to do with her looks, or had something to do with the scenes not working, or even the scenes being unnecessary, you are mistaken.

They'd never admit it, but the reason they cut her scenes is that they have no idea if she'll be able to return for sequels. And they don't want her to appear in this film, just to be recast in the next.

However, due to them not knowing what'll happen with her schedule, they don't want to recast yet when she could very well be available to play the role in ASM3.

So when Marc, Matt, and Avi said during SDCC that they didn't know if Shailene would be back, they honestly don't know.

However, Shailene's comments on the matter make it clear that she is still signed on to return until her schedule says different.
 
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If Hayley Williams acts, she would be perfect for MJ. She defiantly has the attitude of her, and has the looks
 
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