Why Are So Many People Fearing The Trilogy Curse??

[Drago]

I have a feeling that Spidey 3 will be the fan favorite from the trilogy and be the favorite by the general consumer. However, for some reason I think critics won't give this one the high reviews they gave 1 & 2 (here's hoping otherwise)

 

[Secret_Riddle]

I think the critics will like spider-man 3 actually, they loved 1 and 2 so they are going in feeling optimistic, and this entry adds so much and has a lot of strong themes, such as friendship, or the main theme of fighting the darkenss inside (which critics tend to love).

 

[Visionary]

I doubt most critics will like it, but it'll be liked/loved by most fans/casual movie goers.

 

[ghost_x]

I've already said in another thread, this movie is orientated towards the fans. It will be a visual crowd pleaser, and the story/themes/character interaction that the critics soak up will be affected because of it.

 

[pedro parkero]

personally, i don't think the spidey or x-men films hold as much memorable qualities as seeins supes fly for the first time inthe 70s.

in a list of iconic films of the new millenium, LOTR, and the Harry potter series are probably goign to be the best remembered.

Harry Potter? Ugh...

Its films are only popular because the dang books are popular. If you assess the films all by themselves, there's really nothing spectacular about them. In fact, if you haven't read any of the books, you'd even say they were boring...
Harry Potter is probably an iconic figure right now, I'll give you that. But his films are far from it...

You'd think it may be the same for Spider-Man, but actually, the Spider-Man books aren't that popular anymore before the films have shown. So it's the reverse, the films kinda boosted the character's popularity once again.
That said, his first film isn't really that amazing for me. But many liked it. The second one is a critically acclaimed film, and is my favorite.
But can you say that the films are iconic? Well, yeah. Maybe more so than HP since nowadays when the general people think of Spider-Man they think of the films, not the original material...

And I feel in this new age Spider-Man = the new Superman... t:
How iconic can you get?

 

[CrashNburn]

i say critics will absolutely like this one!

 

[Tempest19]

I have read the novelization, I know the story backwards and forwards- after going through writing up a whole summary for it... and I can say that without a doubt the critics are going to LOVE this movie. More so than the previous two.

I feel sorry for those who think this is going to just be a visual film because it's not. It's so much more!

You've got heavy handed symbology and metaphors such as the symbiote as a drug- which the screenwriter plays with EXPERTLY even showing emotions of withdrawal which was perfectly displayed on screen. So in a sense, this could be considered a "drug" movie without even having an actual drug in it- if that makes sense? You guys will see what I mean when you see the film... but, the critics will without a doubt pick up on this.

The characters are all well rounded and unique. Sandman has got to be the most realistic criminal shown in a film like this... he's just a regular guy who got into an accident that gave him these powers. Without the powers, he'd still be an amazing villain because all of the depth that he brings to the table.

The parallel stories of Harry and Peter is also portrayed PERFECTLY. There was a reason why they had Uncle Ben's murder brought back up. I'm not going to ruin anything, but the parallels and the reflection on these parallels are top notch.

Peter, Harry and MJ remain the CENTRAL focus of the film despite the additional supporting characters. All have, imo, better built character arcs than both of the previous films combined... and it manages to do something that most superhero films stay away from- it gave MJ an actual character arc! Yep, that's right... MJ isn't your typical "girl" in a film like this, she's her own character and has her own arc which contributes heavily to the film.

Overall the critics are going to love this film. There's symbology and metaphors, the character arcs are ALOT better than the previous two films, Sandman is more realistic villain than Doctor Octavious and Green Goblin... and it has action ON TOP OF all of that!

I don't see how the critics can not love this film. There is just too many analyticaly great aspects about the film and a leap up from the crowd when it comes to characters and character arcs.

Those saying "too many villains"- lol- that makes me laugh... just look at how many villains and supporting characters Batman Begins had!

 

[Visionary]

I hope it shines through like that on screen.

Those saying "too many villains"- lol- that makes me laugh... just look at how many villains and supporting characters Batman Begins had!

True.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

and it manages to do something that most superhero films stay away from- it gave MJ an actual character arc! Yep, that's right... MJ isn't your typical "girl" in a film like this, she's her own character and has her own arc which contributes heavily to the film.

So so she doesn't get kidnapped in this one by a villain?

 

[Tempest19]

She does get kidnapped.

The girl in MOST action movies is just there to stand as something to use as a hero. The girl is TYPICALLY a one-dimensional character with no arc and only one purpose- to be something that a villain can use.

Read the summary in the movie novelization thread and you'll clearly see that MJ is established as her OWN woman. She is an important character with an actual CHARACTER ARC that is perfectly developed throughout the film. This is VERY rare in a film about a hero of some form, I would even say that in the previous films MJ has only served as "the girl." So, to have her take a giant leap forward and become her own unique character with her own arc that is seperate from that of Peter is amazing.

In other words- she's not there because Peter is there- she is there because SHE is there.... if that makes sense-

 

[FlawlessVictory]

Interesting, I didn't expect much to happen with MJ but it sounds like there's something really in store for her character(other than being the obligatory damsel in distress).

 

[XXTBWCXX]

tom cruise can

Tom Cruise is an idiot...

Back in the day, trilogies weren't that amazing (I still wish Rocky III was longer and better), but now-a-days, trilogies are getting better...hate to say it, but Return of the King was pretty good...and the Blade trilogy went out with a good movie.

 

[Visionary]

Yeah, there better be more than a damsel-in-distress in this flick with her character, because it is killing me softly.

 

[Eggyman]

I'm not gonna swear to it, but I do have a feeling her character will be fuller -- she is closer to Pete in this one, knows his secret, and we have already seen in the trailer an example of her giving him some advice. She will still have that damsel role me thinks, but at least this time it will be backed up by some character development beforehand -- rather than just keeping her in there because apparently the story is all about her.

 

[XXTBWCXX]

The story is all about the girl if you think about it...now-a-days, the TV show Smallville seems to be all about Lana Lang, lol.

 

[Eggyman]

Yeah, you have a point -- the story is all about girls who can't act lolz.

 

[Mr Jide]

The keywords that you used are: TO ME.

Which means absolutely nothing, you're one person, you seem to think that YOU decide what's good, great and bad about a particular movie for the majority, and you don't. I know people who love LOTR books and hate the movie, same with Harry Potter, but they're in the minority--so it's moot, no different from Spidey's films. I guess they could spend 24/7 and all year around on LOTR/Harry Potter message boards damning the movies, but perhaps they have better things to do. Movies deemed good/great are all about the majority, not a few disgruntled fanboys.

No individual makes a movie a classic or talked about decade(s) later, the majority are the ones who do that, by how they feel about a particular film. Hey, I hated E.T. when I saw it and still do (and I don't care who loves it or calls it a classic), but I'm not stupid enough to think that it won't be remembered or talked about because I didn't like it, it's all about the majority who like/loved the film.

Fanboys are so stupid in this regard.

Hey, trash can muppet you've completely missed the point of my post and therefore voided your own "argument"
Yes, the keywords of my post were, "to me" and thats all there is to it. It's common knowledge that the spidey movies are popular but you and others fail to understand that there are people such as myself who share a different opinion on the quality of the spidey films. I don't and have never spoken on behalf of anyone else other than myself. I couldn't care less about the majority you're so quick to point out, that means absoloutly nothing to me because I'm free to make my own decisions and opinions. How I choose to spend my time on discussing a particular topic is entirely up to me. The fact is, I love spider-man and have a passion for the character but the last time I checked, there was no universal law that dictates, only good things can be spoken of the spidey movies. I've made my fair share of "positive" comments towards these movies but TO ME the bad hugely outweigh the good and if people can't appreciate that, tough because there aint a damn thing anyone can do about it

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

MJ will defenitley be more than a girl being kiddnaped (even though in the first two film's her character was more than a a girl just being kidnapped).and I know this because of what I have read and seen. to be honest MJ will be going through a very rough time in this film with all the thing's that are going to be making a impact on peter and mj's relationship. Even Peter that is being influenced by the symbiote is going to be turning his back on MJ leaving her in tears making her go straight to Harry.

Spoiler

she lost her job and now she has to work at a Jazz club

which I for one believe is a good idea and not to mention that it is very heart breaking for Peter to push mj to the floor. so yeah MJ is a much deeper and sad character in this film than in the other's where she was cheerful and happy.

 

[Mr Jide]

I couldn't care less about movie MJ. Dunst is completely wrong for the role and they f'd over her character. People I talk to who know nothing of the comics don't believe that she's actually supposed to be a hot supermodel.
Anyway, seeing as she doesn't bite the dust in this one and neither does Gwen, here's hoping MJ cops it in sm4 at the flesh-ripping Jaws of the lizard and screw the boundaries of pg-13. Red head to heaven now, move in Gwen.

 

[Visionary]

Hey, trash can muppet you've completely missed the point of my post and therefore voided your own "argument"
Yes, the keywords of my post were, "to me" and thats all there is to it. It's common knowledge that the spidey movies are popular but you and others fail to understand that there are people such as myself who share a different opinion on the quality of the spidey films. I don't and have never spoken on behalf of anyone else other than myself. I couldn't care less about the majority you're so quick to point out, that means absoloutly nothing to me because I'm free to make my own decisions and opinions. How I choose to spend my time on discussing a particular topic is entirely up to me. The fact is, I love spider-man and have a passion for the character but the last time I checked, there was no universal law that dictates, only good things can be spoken of the spidey movies. I've made my fair share of "positive" comments towards these movies but TO ME the bad hugely outweigh the good and if people can't appreciate that, tough because there aint a damn thing anyone can do about it

Can you use anymore damn smilies to make your point? We get it, we get it, you don't like the films, sheesh.

 

[Mr Jide]

t:

 

[Visionary]

A smiley attack...all I need is some prep-time.

 

[Mr Jide]

...and some pointy ears with a cape in tow.

 

[Naite22]

I must admit that having MJ beeing kidnapped in ALL THREE FREAKEN FILMS, is nothing but a repeater!!!.... It's a bit irritating! At least they introduce Gwen in the third picture, so MJ isn't the only whiny-girl in distress (we get something new).... You just KNOW that people are gonna think that MJ beeing kidnapped in this one also will be the same **** all over again (and it is!)... They shouldn't have had MJ beeing the one they have to save this time around... VENOM and sandman should've just beaten Aunt May to a crisp, and have her strapped up in the taxi.. just SOMETHING different.

 

[ghost_x]

MJ being kidnapped is the only aspect of her character that they got right, the only difference in the comics was she attempted to hold her ground.

In the movies however she is a weak screaming little girl