Why Craig is so poor as Bond - not a troll post.

The REAL Bond is back! Read it and weep you Craig naysaying idiots!
 
Super fan, you can't claim to speak for yourself all the time, and then tell people with opinions contrary to yours that they are wrong or don't know what they are talking about. They obviously are speaking for themselves too. Loosen up man, let people feel how they want to feel. All this he's uglier, no he's uglier, he has the wrong hair color, his voice is this, no his voice is that,.. it's all getting petty. Its one thing to state your position, it's another to tell people you call things who you see them and then tell them they are wrong for not agreeing with you. Free world. Free speech. Free OPINIONS.
 
MKO1234 said:
Super fan, you can't claim to speak for yourself all the time, and then tell people with opinions contrary to yours that they are wrong or don't know what they are talking about. They obviously are speaking for themselves too. Loosen up man, let people feel how they want to feel. All this he's uglier, no he's uglier, he has the wrong hair color, his voice is this, no his voice is that,.. it's all getting petty. Its one thing to state your position, it's another to tell people you call things who you see them and then tell them they are wrong for not agreeing with you. Free world. Free speech. Free OPINIONS.

Dude...we've tried logic with this guy, it doesn't work :dry:
 
I dunno....Lazenby looks ugly to me. Maybe by Western standards, he is...I dunno. But, he looks like an ugly dude to me.

I don't know about Dalton....some shots, he just looks odd. But, I guess you could say he's got the grizzled badass look going on.

There are pics out there that Craig actually captures the Bond look pretty well. I'll try and find some.
 
See...here, he doesn't look bad. I think he certainly has the Bond look in this pic.

daniel_craig-007_3.jpg


royale5.jpg


daniel_craig3.jpg


Sigh....now, I need to go watch some lesbian porn to make myself feel better from all this man-crush talk.
 
Hey, you know what they say. When they throw rocks, you throw bigger rocks back.
 
MKO1234 said:
Super fan, you can't claim to speak for yourself all the time, and then tell people with opinions contrary to yours that they are wrong or don't know what they are talking about. They obviously are speaking for themselves too. Loosen up man, let people feel how they want to feel. All this he's uglier, no he's uglier, he has the wrong hair color, his voice is this, no his voice is that,.. it's all getting petty. Its one thing to state your position, it's another to tell people you call things who you see them and then tell them they are wrong for not agreeing with you. Free world. Free speech. Free OPINIONS.

Good post. The same applies to the Craig supporters too.
eg. look at this guy:

Dark Knight said:
The REAL Bond is back! Read it and weep you Craig naysaying idiots!

Gammy has a point though:

Gammy79 said:
Dude...we've tried logic with this guy, it doesn't work :dry:

Some people just want don't get it do they Gam?
 
ChrisBaleBatman said:
Hey, you know what they say. When they throw rocks, you throw bigger rocks back.

Well, that analogy doesn't really appy here. I'll explain why. You see, when someone calls a naysayer an "idiot", and then complains about the naysayer's intolerance to Craig, it's really hypocrisy, nothing more. The point here is, if you are not tolerant and civil to your fellow man, then don't expect him to be.
 
gosh this is as bad as routh when he was cast as superman or anyone else that has had to portray a iconic character

"OMG his bone structure doesn't fit the profile of supeman he won't do":whatever:

"Look at how Reeve is built and look at routh"

" Robert Downey Jr is a bad choice for Ironman"


it never ends does it
 
Personally, I dont know why people are still bashing Craig. Do they honestly hope to have Craig relenquish his role? I'll say this. Babs and the studio could care less what people like superfan think about Craig's looks and his sickly mancrush on the conventional pretty boy casting. If they cared so much they would have let Craig go and fyi it was Babs who went chasing after Craig for the role. The sh1ttiest tabloids to the most reputable newspapers have hailed CR and Craig as brilliant. Now tel me who and where the hell is cnb.com? who the hell is superfan? The answer, NOBODY.
Profit and a number 1 spot at the BO is guaranteed, the film is open to rave reviews, the majority of sensible fans of 007 either are impressed with what they have seen so far and can see promise and Craig and the studio have done their jobs.

If you want to waste your time, fine but stop wasting ours by trying to force your own pointless hate for craig down our necks.
 
M.E.H.Z.E.B said:
Good post. The same applies to the Craig supporters too.
eg. look at this guy:



Gammy has a point though:



Some people just want don't get it do they Gam?

It's fine if he doesn't like Craig as Bond, but making all those threads and comments, so devoid of logic and coherence... :dry: :confused:
Is he getting paid to be this annoying or something? :confused:
God knows the "This is my opinion, guys...sorry" ship sailed a LONG time ago, he's just being (I'm sorry to say) an idiot.
 
pointman said:
Profit and a number 1 spot at the BO is guaranteed, the film is open to rave reviews, the majority of sensible fans of 007 either are impressed with what they have seen so far and can see promise and Craig and the studio have done their jobs.

Don't count on it. After the dismal performance of Superman Returns this summer, well, nothing is "guaranteed". SR had good reviews, and most of the critics hailed it as a summer blockbuster, however, it turned out to be a film of Boxoffice mediocrity. Therefore, just because the critics are painting Craig as the next best thing since sliced bread, be a little more careful before jumping the gun. Crtitical acclaim doesn't automatically guarantee "profit" and "number 1 spot at the BO".
 
SUPERMAN RETURNS did make $200 million in the USA. Sure, for SUPERMAN RETURNS that's below expectations, but hardly some dismal disappointment. If CASINO ROYALE approaches that at all, it's doing very well indeed.
 
"The bottom line is that EON is putting all their eggs in the "reboot" basket. They're hoping and praying that a new generation of fans who like the Bourne Identity kind of spy-guy, will disregard the Bond of the last 40 yrs and embrace the new craggy, ugly, dull, charmless brute that the new "Bond" is.

They may have nailed current sentiment and taste or missed it entirely. We'll see come November 17th."

I think you've summed it up perfectly. It's all or nothing with Craig. Either people want this completely new sort of Bond or they don't. My guess is most people don't but we'll know in a week or so. It's possible Craig's casting (and Eon's decision to cast him over a more handsome smoother sort of actor) is indicative of the times in which we live.

As for Bond's look - the five Bonds were universally good looking. Classically good looking. Far better looking than the average male model you see in magazines.

Top five male models in the world:

http://models.com/model_culture/50topmalemodels/top50.cfm?fnumber=5&lnumber=1

Don't look anything like the movie Bond to me! The Bond look is a distinct sort of good looking man, not just a typical male model look, it's different to that. More refined, I guess.

I'm not saying that a more average looking man can't play Bond but Bond has looked a certain way for 20 films so you can't expect every Bond fan to look at Craig and say, "wow, he really looks the part."

It's not reasonable, not credible, to think every Bond fan will have that sort of response and Eon and Sony should be aware of that.
 
super_fan said:
I'm not saying that a more average looking man can't play Bond but Bond has looked a certain way for 20 films so you can't expect every Bond fan to look at Craig and say, "wow, he really looks the part."

It's not reasonable, not credible, to think every Bond fan will have that sort of response and Eon and Sony should be aware of that.
EON and Sony are fully aware that not every Bond fan is going to love Craig. But what does that have to do with anything?
 
Well, that analogy doesn't really appy here. I'll explain why. You see, when someone calls a naysayer an "idiot", and then complains about the naysayer's intolerance to Craig, it's really hypocrisy, nothing more. The point here is, if you are not tolerant and civil to your fellow man, then don't expect him to be.

I know, I was be sarcastic.

The irnoy of having both sides throwing stones (or acting childish in this case) is funny.

Don't count on it. After the dismal performance of Superman Returns this summer, well, nothing is "guaranteed". SR had good reviews, and most of the critics hailed it as a summer blockbuster, however, it turned out to be a film of Boxoffice mediocrity. Therefore, just because the critics are painting Craig as the next best thing since sliced bread, be a little more careful before jumping the gun. Crtitical acclaim doesn't automatically guarantee "profit" and "number 1 spot at the BO".

Yup. Plus theres the after effect of this being the NEW Bond. People might not be open to a Bond without Brosnan so soon.

As for Bond's look - the five Bonds were universally good looking. Classically good looking. Far better looking than the average male model you see in magazines.

Top five male models in the world:

uh......okay.......
 
Why does everyone insist on replying to Super Fan? Every single one of his posts is about bashing Craig, look in his post history. He's obviously here just to do that. So stop encouraging him. :o
 
M.E.H.Z.E.B said:
Don't count on it. After the dismal performance of Superman Returns this summer, well, nothing is "guaranteed". SR had good reviews, and most of the critics hailed it as a summer blockbuster, however, it turned out to be a film of Boxoffice mediocrity. Therefore, just because the critics are painting Craig as the next best thing since sliced bread, be a little more careful before jumping the gun. Crtitical acclaim doesn't automatically guarantee "profit" and "number 1 spot at the BO".

Well I think I'm being quite reasonable to be honest. How much did CR cost to make? I'm 100% sure they'll get their money back, easily and yes, I may speak prematurely but thats because I know this will happen, CR will reach the number 1 spot at the BO, it's so obvious. Regardless, critical acclaim imho is far more rewarding that BO returns anyway, look at BB. That film harldy broke any BO records but it was still a damn good movie. Point in case, I could care less if this film didn't even make a penny, as long as it is good that is all that matters.
 
I love fanboys, it's like some kind of national tradition on these boards. ANd the fanboys never switch allegiance either. Does anyone remember wayback when BRB or w/e his name was use to swear The Hulk would dominate the BO... In either case, superfan... what's the big deal? You have 22 movies of your bond... Why is something different so bad?
 
Movies205 said:
I love fanboys, it's like some kind of national tradition on these boards. ANd the fanboys never switch allegiance either. Does anyone remember wayback when BRB or w/e his name was use to swear The Hulk would dominate the BO... In either case, superfan... what's the big deal? You have 22 movies of your bond... Why is something different so bad?

It's 21 movies since CR is the "official Bond film":o
 

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