Why I think Cyclops is still alive

[sonicphoto]

Anything can happen. Jean lived again with a power that only comic guys know but not me. I really found stupid that she has been all that time alive in the water and her hair grow omg wow. Girls keep your hair on the water for a long time if you want it to grow. The point is that if they can make Jean live again with random reasons that only the hardcore fans know then they could come up with something for Cyclops. Oh and why was mystique alive on X-men 1? Thinking about it she got hit by the claws of Wolverine which is the same thing he did to Jean but yet Mystique is alive and is less powerful then Jean. Haven't anyone think about this? Mystique gets hurt the same way Jean is by Wolverine and Mystique is alive but Jean dies. And so people would easily assume that she turned into wolverine so she could get cured. Well same thing is now happening with Cyclops. Boiiinng anything can change. Let people express their ideas.

 

[WorthyStevens]

Dude, all you're doing is proving your own point wrong. It would take much more exertion on Jean's part to kill Scott than it would to not kill him. She probably just fainted because she was still fragile from being in the lake so long or because it was emotionally intense for her.

But she's able to kill a much more powerful mutant (Xavier) with much more ease?

 

[The Batman]

LMFAO, you guys are making my argument for me. Need I really say more?

you have no argument. i dont really care for your petty insults, as you're really no better than any other fanboy with an opinion.

 

[WorthyStevens]

Some have said it's the first time she uses the full breadth of her discorporating power so that's why she's out. But she more than faints, she's far away from where it happened.

Couldn't it be logical that Scott's powers knocks both of them back? That's how Jean ends up where she is knocked out, and Scott could've been knocked far back into the forest?

 

[Sun_Down]

But she's able to kill a much more powerful mutant (Xavier) with much more ease?

Think about this, she just woke up from a sort of psychic coma when she killed Scott. When she killed Xavier, she'd been awake longer and had been letting her powers expand to their full potential. So yes, she could have killed Xavier without passing out. And she was weakened by it, just not as much.

you have no argument. i dont really care for your petty insults, as you're really no better than any other fanboy with an opinion.

I have no argument? You're the one proposing that both Jean and Xavier were either lying or wrong about Scott's death for no apparent reason. Jean knew that she killed him, which is why she asked Wolverine to kill her in the lab. Xavier knew because he's the most powerful telepath on Earth. If Scott were really alive, he would have known and he certainly would have told Jean when they were squaring off. Those two, more than anyone, would know the truth and neither character would have any incentive to lie. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if they pulled some stupid stunt to bring him back, but the man is dead. Deal with it.

 

[The Batman]

Your opinion. Not mine. Deal with that.

 

[Sun_Down]

Couldn't it be logical that Scott's powers knocks both of them back? That's how Jean ends up where she is knocked out, and Scott could've been knocked far back into the forest?

No, it's not logical because Jean realizes that she killed him when she was in the lab. And if that were the case, they would have touched on it in the film. They're not gonna have a flashback to that moment and show that he's somehow alive in X4, that would just confuse people.

 

[Kyle Katarn]

Cyke is my favorite X-Man, so I'll happly go along with any no body = NOT DEAD theories!

 

[WorthyStevens]

No, it's not logical because Jean realizes that she killed him when she was in the lab. And if that were the case, they would have touched on it in the film. They're not gonna have a flashback to that moment and show that he's somehow alive in X4, that would just confuse people.

Jean's mind is pretty messed up right now. She could've seen it happen in her mind, but she might not have.

Let's not forget that it took Xavier some time to figure out that Jean was still living, at the very end of X2.

But, they left it open for Scott to return. Let's leave it at that.

However, I still think he's living.

 

[The Batman]

Not to mention, that one article on the movie said that during the story, certain members would be missing in action.

only cyke really fits that bill

 

[WorthyStevens]

And reports of there being an alternate scene with Scott in a hospital bed at the end of the movie, ala Xavier w/ Moira.

 

[sonicphoto]

Hahaha. You guys say think about it she might have gone into a comma or was tired being on the lake. See you are assuming has well just like everyone is also assuming about Cyclops so none of you really make no sense. You can all talk but guess what none of you are directors nor work on the series. Let the people that want Cyclops back do all they can and see if they listen. Don't go against them because including Cyclops again is not going to ruin things is going to fix things because many people don't feel happy about this people who died. Let the writters and director decide what they really want to do and if they will listen to the people or not.

 

[The Batman]

i guess so, sonic. But with the ambiguous death, the actor willing to do another, and the fact that fox might need as many of the originals back as possible, i'd say cykes return is likely.

 

[Coreo]

Cyclops is a goner. Xavier sensed it right when it happened. Did you see the look on his face? Then at Jean's house, he said, "Jean, you killed Scott...the man you loved." If Cyclops was dead, he would indeed be the one to know! He's the world's most powerful telepath! And another thing, Jean herself realized she killed Scott. She has a psychic connection with him I'm sure!

 

[CapBeerCino]

And yet, we have ratner and the writers saying its possible he'll come back in X4.

nice try, though. Penn and Kinberg, knowing the fan backlash, made it possible that scotts death was ambigious.

Link?

 

[CapBeerCino]

Patrick Stewart confirmed different endings...

Which if I understand #1 is Magneto playing chess and #2 is the one with Moria.

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=232131&highlight=Patrick+Stewart

 

[Kyle Katarn]

Cyclops is a goner. Xavier sensed it right when it happened. Did you see the look on his face? Then at Jean's house, he said, "Jean, you killed Scott...the man you loved." If Cyclops was dead, he would indeed be the one to know! He's the world's most powerful telepath! And another thing, Jean herself realized she killed Scott. She has a psychic connection with him I'm sure!

Eh....kinda like how Chuck knew right away that Jean was still alive at the end of X2? And how he was so sure he rushed the X-Men back to the lake to save her?

As for Jean's psychic bond with Scott...see above. If I recall it was a 2-way ling and if it was still active, Scott would have been back at the lake to get her. And let's not forget Jean was a little coo-coo from the whole trauma.

 

[The Batman]

Link?

Remember when Ratner was saying that Cycke could come back like jean did in x3?

He said something like "Nothing is forever in the Marvel Universe. I remember jean dying in x2, but i saw jean on set my first day shooting"

Surely, i'm not the only one who remembers ratner saying that.

 

[CapBeerCino]

Remember when Ratner was saying that Cycke could come back like jean did in x3?

He said something like "Nothing is forever in the Marvel Universe. I remember jean dying in x2, but i saw jean on set my first day shooting"

Surely, i'm not the only one who remembers ratner saying that.

I'm afraid I don't remeber that.
I believe Scott is dead.
If Fox gave a damn about fan reaction they had time to change the AICN script but they didn't. They could make Scott the secret scene yet again they didn't. If they didn't use him in the Phoenix saga (!) they won't bother bringing him back for any other story line. And with that 107,000000$ in their pockets - why should they? If it's working don't fix it. The next movie (should there be any - and I hope not) would probably be the x-kids with Storm as their guide.

 

[WorthyStevens]

Remember when Ratner was saying that Cycke could come back like jean did in x3?

He said something like "Nothing is forever in the Marvel Universe. I remember jean dying in x2, but i saw jean on set my first day shooting"

Surely, i'm not the only one who remembers ratner saying that.

I remember. It was the same interview where Ratner confirmed the Sentinel.

 

[The Batman]

thats a very understandable view, cap

 

[sonicphoto]

''Make no mistake my brothers Fox wants to cure the comics but I say we are the cure''.

 

[Xplicit Content]

His death was ambiguous...to the point where, if they wanted to bring him back, they could.

 

[godlike13]

does it matter i mean none of the movies took advantage of Cyclops and his skills as a leader he was allways just there, what a wast of a great character

 

[CapBeerCino]

^ I liked him in x-1 and the x-2 ending was promising. If Storm died in x-3 she would have been the same case.