Why the hate for Wolverine?

[AznBABYBANDIT]

I've never liked Wolverine. Tis why I, personally, believe he should be off to the side just a bit more... Preference, really.

Same, but wont happen, until They see another Money Cow...

 

[Jan Irisi]

Jan has a tendency of doing that...and then she acts offended when she gets a negative reaction

You sir are the pychotic child I was talking down to. Get it? I voiced my friggen opinion and once again, out you go with the insults.

I have taken insults from you long enough. You are worse than a spoiled rotten child having a temper tantrum.

I have taken crap from you and your buddy kurosawa when I didn't deserve it. But oh wait, you guys are really really upset about Cyclops dying aren't you? Well, well then, we should just tap you on your head and give you your teddy bear because you are so upset. You *points finger* are a real pain in the ass. What did I ever do to you anyway? Take away your lollipop?

It is you, and posters like you here, that are leading this place the way of AICN. Nobody can talk to you, or debate with you. And you have the audacity to say that no one here can have an intelligent debate? Who can debate with you? If they don't agree with you, you go in for the attack. You act like a pompous ass, and you get offended when you are called on it.

As long as people are agreeing with you and nodding their heads like good little doobees when you spout something you seem to believe is intelligent, you strut around here like you are king. You are not. Far from it. You know nothing. You may think you do, but you certainly do not.

Learn how to treat people with respect. You have never given me one ounce of respect here. Not one. Simply because I have an opposing viewpoint. You need to give respect to get it, and you sir deserve none.

 

[Jan Irisi]

And could you please stop speaking down to us like we are a bunch of Psychotic children. I think it's clear we are all different ppl and will handle things in our own way. Sometimes not the best but I really have yet too see Ntcrawler pass the red line.

Would you prefer I rant and rave and pull my hair out and insult somebody? Would that be better? Because I can do that if you prefer.

 

[danoyse]

Jan has a tendency of doing that...and then she acts offended when she gets a negative reaction

It's the other way around, actually.

 

[danoyse]

No you havn't, not in this thread anyways. I remember you bringing that up much later

I've brought it up on this thread, on every thread...thank you for finally picking up on it.

 

[gambitfire]

Would you prefer I rant and rave and pull my hair out and insult somebody? Would that be better? Because I can do that if you prefer.

See there you go again. Because this -- means nothing

No i prefer you speak to us like peers and not inferiors.

You know stooping to that low just becuase there are others there doesn't really make it better. If ppl arnt' agreeing with you now they probably never will, it doesn't mean you should act like they are below you. How does it help anyways? does it make you feel better?

Yes you do have a point i agree you have been attacked and harrassed by other posters around here but they way you speak back to them doesn't help out at all.

Perhaps i came off doing the same as that a couple of times but i can't help it notice you do it alot more. Sorry

 

[gambitfire]

I've brought it up on this thread, on every thread...thank you for finally picking up on it.

But not from the beginning like you stated

 

[danoyse]

See there you go again. Because this -- means nothing

No i prefer you speak to us like peers and not inferiors.

You know stooping to that low just becuase there are others there doesn't really make it better. If ppl arnt' agreeing with you now they probably never will, it doesn't mean you should act like they are below you. How does it help anyways? does it make you feel better?

Yes you do have a point i agree you have been attacked and harrassed by other posters around here but they way you speak back to them doesn't help out at all.

Perhaps i came off doing the same as that a couple of times but i can't help it notice you do it alot more. Sorry

Oh, stop.

So when Kurosawa posts one of his "F*** Wolverine and his F***** fans", or The Batman goes off on someone's "stupidity" for stating an opinion, it's because Jan was allegedly mean to them in the first place and probably deserved it?

Why don't you try actually reading one of her posts instead of being insulted by someone having a viewpoint other than your own?

 

[danoyse]

But not from the beginning like you stated

Yes, from the beginning. Try and keep up.

 

[xii22_loop]

Oh, stop.

So when Kurosawa posts one of his "F*** Wolverine and his F***** fans", or The Batman goes off on someone's "stupidity" for stating an opinion, it's because Jan was allegedly mean to them in the first place and probably deserved it?

Why don't you try actually reading one of her posts instead of being insulted by someone having a viewpoint other than your own?

oh my god that is soo complicated (i just read this thread for first time..)

 

[gambitfire]

Yes, from the beginning. Try and keep up.

Im up to date thanks i think you need the catching up.

You know what better yet believe what you want .

Oh, stop.

So when Kurosawa posts one of his "F*** Wolverine and his F***** fans", or The Batman goes off on someone's "stupidity" for stating an opinion, it's because Jan was allegedly mean to them in the first place and probably deserved it?

Why don't you try actually reading one of her posts instead of being insulted by someone having a viewpoint other than your own?

Im just asking her to be the bigger person and i never said She was the reason for being attacked. If i recall i also said i understand that she has been harrassed and attacked. Never did i say she was the cause. Oh and i actually read her posts which is why i respond to them in a non rude way. How about you get your facts straight and lined out and try not being insulted by someone having a viewpoint other than your own?

Jerk. Peace im out of this thread for the moment. Putting up with you is actually bothering me, and im not bothered by the stupidity that flies around here.

 

[gambitfire]

You know what i apologize for the Jerk part but i stand by everything else .

 

[oneteen]

Come on guys. Lighten up. Have an icecream cone, whatever.

 

[ntcrawler]

I have graham crackers and milk. Anyone want some graham crackers? It's Jean's favorite late-night comfort food

 

[x3xCyclopsx3x]

It's not that I don't like the character, or the actor who portrays him. I dislike that wolverine is pretty much unstoppable, and in the movies he may as well formed the X-men. If you go back, and read the issues of Uncanny X-men during the late 70's early 80's the character was perfect. The character was developed well, and was vulnerable even with his mutant abilities. "Days of future Past" is a good example. He died from a sentinel blast that only left his skeleton. In a recent issue of wolverine the same thing happened minus a sentinel and one panel later he was a healed up. That's stupid. I don't read Superman because of the reason. Why care about someone who you can't relate with? I'm mortal unlike characters such as wolverine, and superman.

In X-Men 1 wolverine gets knocked out by sabertooth, and doesn't wake up until they reach the Mansion. I would believe that. In X-Men 3, his very skin, and organs are being destroyed by Jean, and he just instantly heals with no problem. I'm sorry that crap. In X-Men 2 when he gets shot in the head, he passes out from the force/pain of the bullet. I'm sorry but if my lungs, stomach, heart, face was being instantly destroyed the shock alone to the body would shut the body down. Healing ability or not. They need to take the character back to his roots, and make him as vulnerable as his team mates, and I would bet that most people would lose their dislike for Wolverine. It's not that I don't like the character, or the actor who portrays him. I dislike that wolverine is pretty much unstoppable, and in the movies he may as well formed the X-men. If you go back, and read the issues of Uncanny X-men during the late 70's early 80's the character was perfect. The character was developed well, and was vulnerable even with his mutant abilities. "Days of future Past" is a good example. He died from a sentinel blast that only left his skeleton. In a recent issue of wolverine the same thing happened minus a sentinel and one panel later he was a healed up. That's stupid. I don't read Superman because of the reason. Why care about someone who you can't relate with? I'm mortal unlike characters such as wolverine, and superman.

In X-Men 1 wolverine gets knocked out by sabertooth, and doesn't wake up until they reach the Mansion. I would believe that. In X-Men 3, his very skin, and organs are being destroyed by Jean, and he just instantly heals with no problem. I'm sorry that crap. In X-Men 2 when he gets shot in the head, he passes out from the force/pain of the bullet. I'm sorry but if my lungs, stomach, heart, face was being instantly destroyed the shock alone to the body would shut the body down. Healing ability or not. They need to take the character back to his roots, and make him as vulnerable as his team mates, and I would bet that most people would lose their dislike for Wolverine.

 

[x-fan]

It's not that I don't like the character, or the actor who portrays him. I dislike that wolverine is pretty much unstoppable, and in the movies he may as well formed the X-men. If you go back, and read the issues of Uncanny X-men during the late 70's early 80's the character was perfect. The character was developed well, and was vulnerable even with his mutant abilities. "Days of future Past" is a good example. He died from a sentinel blast that only left his skeleton. In a recent issue of wolverine the same thing happened minus a sentinel and one panel later he was a healed up. That's stupid. I don't read Superman because of the reason. Why care about someone who you can't relate with? I'm mortal unlike characters such as wolverine, and superman.

In X-Men 1 wolverine gets knocked out by sabertooth, and doesn't wake up until they reach the Mansion. I would believe that. In X-Men 3, his very skin, and organs are being destroyed by Jean, and he just instantly heals with no problem. I'm sorry that crap. In X-Men 2 when he gets shot in the head, he passes out from the force/pain of the bullet. I'm sorry but if my lungs, stomach, heart, face was being instantly destroyed the shock alone to the body would shut the body down. Healing ability or not. They need to take the character back to his roots, and make him as vulnerable as his team mates, and I would bet that most people would lose their dislike for Wolverine. It's not that I don't like the character, or the actor who portrays him. I dislike that wolverine is pretty much unstoppable, and in the movies he may as well formed the X-men. If you go back, and read the issues of Uncanny X-men during the late 70's early 80's the character was perfect. The character was developed well, and was vulnerable even with his mutant abilities. "Days of future Past" is a good example. He died from a sentinel blast that only left his skeleton. In a recent issue of wolverine the same thing happened minus a sentinel and one panel later he was a healed up. That's stupid. I don't read Superman because of the reason. Why care about someone who you can't relate with? I'm mortal unlike characters such as wolverine, and superman.

In X-Men 1 wolverine gets knocked out by sabertooth, and doesn't wake up until they reach the Mansion. I would believe that. In X-Men 3, his very skin, and organs are being destroyed by Jean, and he just instantly heals with no problem. I'm sorry that crap. In X-Men 2 when he gets shot in the head, he passes out from the force/pain of the bullet. I'm sorry but if my lungs, stomach, heart, face was being instantly destroyed the shock alone to the body would shut the body down. Healing ability or not. They need to take the character back to his roots, and make him as vulnerable as his team mates, and I would bet that most people would lose their dislike for Wolverine.

wolvies healing factor has always fluctuated, depending on the writer. i've seen him take multiple gunshot wounds in the comic without slowing down, in the 80's he once said he could take a full clip from an uzi' and it wouldnt put him down, look at some of his japan adventures. he healed after a car wreak every bone in his body was broke it took 3.8 seconds this was after after his metal was pulled. he healed from a drop of blood once. in the first two movies his healing factor was a joke. his wounds even reopen after he loses his power to rogue, shouldnt have reopened but hey it was a different writer. all in all his healing isnt set in the comics everyone writes him different probably the way the see him. was his healing factor to fast in x3? maybe a little, but it was to slow in the first 2 also

 

[The Batman]

You sir are the pychotic child I was talking down to. Get it? I voiced my friggen opinion and once again, out you go with the insults.

I have taken insults from you long enough. You are worse than a spoiled rotten child having a temper tantrum.

I have taken crap from you and your buddy kurosawa when I didn't deserve it. But oh wait, you guys are really really upset about Cyclops dying aren't you? Well, well then, we should just tap you on your head and give you your teddy bear because you are so upset. You *points finger* are a real pain in the ass. What did I ever do to you anyway? Take away your lollipop?

It is you, and posters like you here, that are leading this place the way of AICN. Nobody can talk to you, or debate with you. And you have the audacity to say that no one here can have an intelligent debate? Who can debate with you? If they don't agree with you, you go in for the attack. You act like a pompous ass, and you get offended when you are called on it.

As long as people are agreeing with you and nodding their heads like good little doobees when you spout something you seem to believe is intelligent, you strut around here like you are king. You are not. Far from it. You know nothing. You may think you do, but you certainly do not.

Learn how to treat people with respect. You have never given me one ounce of respect here. Not one. Simply because I have an opposing viewpoint. You need to give respect to get it, and you sir deserve none.

Didnt deserve it?

You, like everyone else, come into the Cyclops thread with your same old tired crap and hypocracy. And then, when i point it out, you run to the off topic thread and cry about it to everyone else. "Ohhh, Get over it!". "Ohhh, you guys should wait until the movie comes out before you bash it, while i on the other hand can praise it endlessly!". "Ohhhh, you guys are pathetic for caring so much about Cyclops".

I dont give you respect because you simply dont deserve it. and thats because YOU act pompous and you act like anyone who dosent agree with you is some psychotic fanboy who takes things too seriously. You're just like everyone else who was on the forum praising the movie, and dont say you're not cause your posts say otherwise. Unlike you, however, You wont see me whining about people not giving me respect, because at the end of the day, the only people i give a damn about getting respect from is friends and family. Not someone who feels they're better than us "Sad" Cyclops fans.

Its posters like me who lead this place down the gutter, but its people like you who make it worse. Constantly praising the movie and hating on those who dont. And dont lump me in with those people, as i;ve barely posted here after the movie came out. and me and kurosawa arent buddies, and I'm not even as bad as him, so stop being dramatic like you usually are.

 

[The Batman]

See there you go again. Because this -- means nothing

No i prefer you speak to us like peers and not inferiors.

You know stooping to that low just becuase there are others there doesn't really make it better. If ppl arnt' agreeing with you now they probably never will, it doesn't mean you should act like they are below you. How does it help anyways? does it make you feel better?

Yes you do have a point i agree you have been attacked and harrassed by other posters around here but they way you speak back to them doesn't help out at all.

Perhaps i came off doing the same as that a couple of times but i can't help it notice you do it alot more. Sorry

That was my problem with her in the first place. Before she starts whining like she did nothing wrong. I dont know what kuro's problem with her was, and i dont care, really.

She, like everyone else decided to speak down to Cyke fans and people against the movie. She swears she's innocent, when shes not.

 

[The Batman]

Oh, stop.

So when Kurosawa posts one of his "F*** Wolverine and his F***** fans", or The Batman goes off on someone's "stupidity" for stating an opinion, it's because Jan was allegedly mean to them in the first place and probably deserved it?

As far as I'm concerned, yes. Talking to people like idiots will not get you respect. Period. And shes more than proved in THIS thread why she dosent get that respect. And it had nothing to do with her views on hugh jackman having "it".

 

[Celestial]

I have a lot of respect for Jan. She has survived as voice of reason in the wildeness of these board for more than three years. I hope she doesn't get driven away by the less tolerant, objective posters.

 

[The Batman]

I think the fact that most posters in wolverines own forum would rather see X4 than a solo flick speaks volumes.

 

[undomiel]

It makes business sense to use something that works.

And thank you for getting what I was trying to say. Instead of attacking me for being an apologist, or a fanboy, or what have you. That gets old, but it's funny as hell.

To your first point: I agree.

To your second statement: Hey, no problem!

 

[undomiel]

that as long you have the mentality thast "Wolverine is the most popular so he must have the focus", you will not understand why Xfans, fans who have, i dunno, actually read the comics and dont wait for hugh jackman to have "it" to become fans, are so pissed about him.

I think Wolverine is the most popular X-man among both comicbook readers and moviegoers alike for the simple reason that his character is one of the best ever written. It would seem a shame not to use that.

 

[The Batman]

And its even a bigger shame to make the whole effin' trilogy about him....

 

[undomiel]

I've never liked Wolverine. Tis why I, personally, believe he should be off to the side just a bit more... Preference, really.

Hey, at least you're honest about it.