Homecoming Will asm3 be better then asm2?

[Spider-knight]

will the symbiote be the climax of the sinister six film though?

 

[W/ Great Power]

will the symbiote be the climax of the sinister six film though?

Possibly TASM3?

Considering TASM3 will lead into the Venom spinoff (correct me if I'm wrong).

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

I said 'yes, but only a little'. All the same problems are likely to still be around in some form or another, but I thought TASM2 was so bad that the bar is really low. I can't imagine it being that bad again, kind of like how Transformers 3 was an upgrade on Transformers 2 almost by default.

 

[Dr. Thanos]

Spider-Man needs another Doc Ock caliber villain for TASM 3 to be good. Garfield has been great as Spider-Man, it's time to give him a worthy opponent mentally. Someone that messes with his mind and emotions. Especially after the loss of Gwen, enter symbiote.

Why not use Mysterio, then? One of Spider-Man's few non-physical villains, he's all about tricks, illusions and plans.

 

[LizardMan07]

Why not use Mysterio, then? One of Spider-Man's few non-physical villains, he's all about tricks, illusions and plans.

Exactly!

It's why I'm PRAYING they don't connect mysterio to S6.

 

[AF3619]

well Kurtzman is gone, i hope they hire an actual good writer and maybe Sinister six does well and they do spidey vs ONE villain for TASM3, who knows?

 

[JOE]

Exactly!

It's why I'm PRAYING they don't connect mysterio to S6.

He's definitely part of their S6. He was in the group of pictures they threw out there along with Kraven's spear.

 

[W/ Great Power]

He's definitely part of their S6. He was in the group of pictures they threw out there along with Kraven's spear.

That's something that'll throw some diehard fans off for sure.

He's one of the stand-alone type of villains. Even if he's in the S6, he's somebody you can definitely see as a leader or protagonist.

I hope they can pull off characters such as Mysterio being led by Harry/Goblin.

 

[Spidey-Lad93]

Spider-Man needs another Doc Ock caliber villain for TASM 3 to be good. Garfield has been great as Spider-Man, it's time to give him a worthy opponent mentally. Someone that messes with his mind and emotions. Especially after the loss of Gwen, enter symbiote.

It doesn't matter who the villian is you still need a good script to back it

 

[Nemeres]

TASM2 is the result of several textbook studio mistakes, everyone and their mom is saying so, and this time around they didn't even have the financial success to fall back on and pretend that criticism doesn't matter. I'm betting that's gonna have an effect. My bet is on Sony working hard to get their **** together, be really careful about story, about the talent they hire, about who they listen to (and not), etc.

Plus, after S6 (if that works out ok, which I'm confident about) they'll have Drew Goddard there as a shepherd of sorts to look over their long term plans for the Spidey universe. That's a good thing. I know both S6 and TASM3 are a long way off, but it might turn out that TASM2 failing as hard as it did was a good thing in the long run.

 

[The Joker]

It doesn't matter who the villian is you still need a good script to back it

Exactly.

 

[W/ Great Power]

TASM2 is the result of several textbook studio mistakes, everyone and their mom is saying so, and this time around they didn't even have the financial success to fall back on and pretend that criticism doesn't matter. I'm betting that's gonna have an effect. My bet is on Sony working hard to get their **** together, be really careful about story, about the talent they hire, about who they listen to (and not), etc.

Plus, after S6 (if that works out ok, which I'm confident about) they'll have Drew Goddard there as a shepherd of sorts to look over their long term plans for the Spidey universe. That's a good thing. I know both S6 and TASM3 are a long way off, but it might turn out that TASM2 failing as hard as it did was a good thing in the long run.

That's right there is the gleam of hope I'm hanging onto.

I've mentioned before how TASM2 might make a lot more sense once we see S6 and TASM3. Yes, I realize the success of other films doesn't make their predecessor any better, but I think the end of TASM2 left us on a bridge between two worlds; hopefully the one we're heading towards provides a better explanation for the one we're coming from.

 

[blake c]

Mysterio and Harry-Goblin would make a great film imo for the third one. Ive said it quite a bit, but I think its true.

 

[blake c]

Spider-Man needs another Doc Ock caliber villain for TASM 3 to be good. Garfield has been great as Spider-Man, it's time to give him a worthy opponent mentally. Someone that messes with his mind and emotions. Especially after the loss of Gwen, enter symbiote.

I know theres a ton of distaste for these new movies, but Andrew really has been great. If theres one bright spot about these movies, its him. I really want him to get a great movie.

 

[BatmanVSuperman]

I liked TASM2 and look forward to the third. I am glad they haven't duplicated everything we have seen before. Looking forward to 3!

 

[Doctor Octopus]

Spider-Man needs another Doc Ock caliber villain for TASM 3 to be good.

I feel that will never happen. The villains are the most worst things about these movies and they have been getting more worse instead of better. I think Dr. Octopus is just going to be some lackey to a teenage Goblin in the Sinister Six where they all act like heroes so the audience will root for them. Sony's plan for the Six.

 

[LizardMan07]

Hmm, Drew Goddard is writing it so we're in a different ball park here.

The previous villians in the series probably don't have that much relevance to the S6, except Harry, the good thing about his little development as GG is that Drew has a lot to work for in S6.

Mysterio is my tip for a Doc Ock calibre villian. Emotionally resonant and visually stunning, can wreck Peter's mind, I'm already loving the idea.

 

[Oscorp]

I think the greatest potential lies in Kraven.

 

[Doctor Octopus]

Why? Because of Kraven's Last Hunt?

 

[Oscorp]

Why? Because of Kraven's Last Hunt?

He has a great backstory and is a very intriguing and interesting character. And yes, he stars in one of the greatest comic book arcs. He's a badass and a villain who definitely has the chops to steal the show; the kind of villain this franchise needs.

 

[Doctor Octopus]

But so did Goblin and Lizard have great back stories and the chops to steal the show. What they need is good writers.

 

[Oscorp]

But so did Goblin and Lizard have great back stories and the chops to steal the show. What they need is good writers.

We're discussing villains, not writers. I think Kraven has more potential than those villains that aren't used yet. Mysterio is a favourite of mine, but his backstory is weak. Doc Ock is obviously the best, but I want to see new ones.

 

[Doctor Octopus]

I'm discussing villains, too, and a villain is only as good as the writer he's got. Goblin and Lizard proved that because they're great villains, better than Kraven, and they got turned into some of the worst villains ever in these movies because of bad writing.

Kraven's potential rests on how the writers treat him.

 

[Oscorp]

I'm discussing villains, too, and a villain is only as good as the writer he's got. Goblin and Lizard proved that because they're great villains, better than Kraven, and they got turned into some of the worst villains ever in these movies because of bad writing.

Kraven's potential rests on how the writers treat him.

That's because they didn't stay true to the characters. What I'm talking about is IF the writers stay true to the characters, I think Kraven has the most potential of the ones who are left.

What I mean is that with a villain like Mysterio, the writers would need to change a lot to the origin etc. With Kraven, they wouldn't need to change much and he'd still be a great movie villain.

 

[Doctor Octopus]

I think Mysterio has a good origin. He frames Spider-Man to make a name for himself, and uses his technical genius to do it. I think that is more interesting than Kraven coming to NY to hunt Spider-Man to prove he is the best hunter of all.