Will Hulk be leaping and running fast in the movie?

[Bannerless Hulk]

So, let me get this straight: Running at speeds of 170 mph to 300 mph looks ridiculous, but jumping distances that defy all known physics somehow doesn't? The more I read this forum, the more amazed I am. Leaping may be "Hulk," but it was entirely UNrealistic in the first film, if you ask me. I mean, here they are making a serious film and then they have Hulk do something that - even with all of his strength considered - would never be possible without legs that rival those of a grasshopper or something else of comparable elasticity. Hulk's legs have no such characteristics and it completely took away from the movie's believability. At least with Spider-Man, the things that his webs can do have some sense of credibility about them. A green monster bounding all over the globe has no credibility whatsoever. So, if you want another Hulk that fails in the box office, just keep having him leap from plateau to plateau... just like you want it. And then blame the writer or whomever else would be responsible for the movie's failure to live up to your expectations.

 

[Spade]

Dude, it's a giant 7 to 8 foot tall man who can somehow manage to move his tendons with the sort of physique that you see him with in the comics and in the first film. They're taking enough of a leap on that front. But no, it's the leaping that's wrong? Not quite- it's the fact that the moment was trying to be poignant when there were dozens of attempts at that earlier in the film and not the fault of the ability at all. The Hulk has to be doing something besides lumbering around.

For the naysayers who claim to know so much about the character: if you don't want him running and you don't want him leaping, should we rename this "The Incredible Lumbering Hulk"?

 

[Bannerless Hulk]

Dude, it's a giant 7 to 8 foot tall man who can somehow manage to move his tendons with the sort of physique that you see him with in the comics and in the first film.

The comics... exactly. Just the place where you and most others are permanently trapped, it seems. You, like others, see everything from the inside looking out. You have no concept of objectivity. I'm saying - not as one whom would claim to know so much about the character as you supposedly do, but as a general fan and moviegoer - that BOTH the running and jumping at ridiculous speeds and heights lent to the first film's overall poor performance. You're not going to get many people to "buy into" the movie other than those of you who eat, sleep and s*** the comics if the concept is unbelievable from the start, I reason. Yet you use the first film as part of your argument, when it's the very thing we're trying to resolve - whether the "leaping and running fast" worked and whether it should be done the same for TIH. How does that work?? Maybe YOU're the one who's the genius around here. Please, impart on all of us your rare intellect and tell us the answer to your question. I'll take a lumbering Hulk who can kick your a** anyday than a totally incredulous Hulk that has people leaving theaters as fast as they arrive.

 

[Sava]

The comics... exactly. Just the place where you and most others are permanently trapped, it seems. You, like others, see everything from the inside looking out. You have no concept of objectivity. I'm saying - not as one whom would claim to know so much about the character as you supposedly do, but as a general fan and moviegoer - that BOTH the running and jumping at ridiculous speeds and heights lent to the first film's overall poor performance. You're not going to get many people to "buy into" the movie other than those of you who eat, sleep and s*** the comics if the concept is unbelievable from the start, I reason. Yet you use the first film as part of your argument, when it's the very thing we're trying to resolve - whether the "leaping and running fast" worked and whether it should be done the same for TIH. How does that work?? Maybe YOU're the one who's the genius around here. Please, impart on all of us your rare intellect and tell us the answer to your question. I'll take a lumbering Hulk who can kick your a** anyday than a totally incredulous Hulk that has people leaving theaters as fast as they arrive.

sorry but s**ty pacing, too many gimicks and weak/altered story is what f**ked the movie, not that. If the movie was better in all those departments i just mentioned, people wouldnt be b**ching.

 

[TheBeastWithin]

The comics... exactly. Just the place where you and most others are permanently trapped, it seems. You, like others, see everything from the inside looking out. You have no concept of objectivity. I'm saying - not as one whom would claim to know so much about the character as you supposedly do, but as a general fan and moviegoer - that BOTH the running and jumping at ridiculous speeds and heights lent to the first film's overall poor performance. You're not going to get many people to "buy into" the movie other than those of you who eat, sleep and s*** the comics if the concept is unbelievable from the start, I reason. Yet you use the first film as part of your argument, when it's the very thing we're trying to resolve - whether the "leaping and running fast" worked and whether it should be done the same for TIH. How does that work?? Maybe YOU're the one who's the genius around here. Please, impart on all of us your rare intellect and tell us the answer to your question. I'll take a lumbering Hulk who can kick your a** anyday than a totally incredulous Hulk that has people leaving theaters as fast as they arrive.

I agree. Everyone in the theater laughed when Hulk made his running jump. All 5 times I saw it. Probably because it came off looking something like a clumsy, chubby, green jumping bean in parts. Regardless of what hardcore fans think, this film's success hinges on making sure this time people don't laugh at various parts of the movie that weren't meant to be funny.

sorry but s**ty pacing, too many gimicks and weak/altered story is what f**ked the movie, not that. If the movie was better in all those departments i just mentioned, people wouldnt be b**ching.

Those issues hurt Hulk as well.

 

[SpaghettiHULK]

an hulk that don't leap around is not THE Hulk.

 

[Sun_Down]

I hope they keep the leaping, I absolutely loved the scene where Hulk took that huge jump in the desert. It was such a nice little moment of peace amidst all the chaos.

 

[Riddick2009]

I will look on my HD DVD of Hulk because I know on the regular dvd there was a thing that told how fast he ran, I hope it's on the HD DVD as well if not then I will hunt up my dvd version. Either way I will post it.

 

[Spidey]

I will look on my HD DVD of Hulk because I know on the regular dvd there was a thing that told how fast he ran, I hope it's on the HD DVD as well if not then I will hunt up my dvd version. Either way I will post it.

I remember that also. It had his BMI, muscle-mass calculations and all that jazz.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I agree. Everyone in the theater laughed when Hulk made his running jump. All 5 times I saw it. Probably because it came off looking something like a clumsy, chubby, green jumping bean in parts. Regardless of what hardcore fans think, this film's success hinges on making sure this time people don't laugh at various parts of the movie that weren't meant to be funny.

Those issues hurt Hulk as well.

i agree as well.. it came off as if he was almost flying most the time... easy way to change that is to make the jumps not nearly as high off the ground, and not strait up.. have them at a sharper angle... so he actually looks like he's jumping

 

[Bannerless Hulk]

sorry but s**ty pacing, too many gimicks and weak/altered story is what f**ked the movie, not that. If the movie was better in all those departments i just mentioned, people wouldnt be b**ching.

To the general public or just you? Far be it an excess of people *****ing, the consensus so far on this thread seems to be, "Hell yeah, give us more running, jumping, leaping, etc!! We loved it!! It was great!!" And I'm saying hell NO, don't give us more of that because that's exactly what the general public HATED. It was completely unbelievable. For those who were ABLE to summon laughter from within by the time the Hulk is the running and jumping... my profoundest admiration. Besides, you actually agree with me when you say there were too many gimmicks -- yes, the running and jumping included.

 

[Riddick2009]

You need to just shut up, are completely lost when it comes to HULK?!! What in the Sam Hell do you think Hulk is about? You must have watched to much of the goddamn tv show to even know what Hulk is. He is supposed to leap miles and run really fast! You say that is unrealistic? HAHAHAHA what part of a 15 foot tall Green Monster is realistic? I have seen some posters that made stupid posts before but you have taken the cake! ''HULK LEAPING IS NOT REALISTIC'' HAHAHAHAHA!!! You want more realism added to a green monster haha. The people loved Hulk jumping and running in the movie, get over it! That is everything Hulk is. Go watch the old crap tv show and watch him run around and lift back ends of cars. When in the hell did people laugh when he jumped, what ****ing theater were you at? I watched the movie twice in the theater and people loved when Hulk was kicking ass!! Not one time has any of the people that hated the movie said it was stupid that he jumped, that is how Hulk has been since he was created, jesus! Lets just have him run around about the speed of a regular person and not leap, hell while were at it might as well have him bench 500 pounds because you want realism to a goddamn green monster! Do us a favor and don't post on these boards anymore.


Guy wants realism added to a green monster, hahahahahahahaha!! You don't deserve to watch a Hulk movie because you obviously don't know a damn thing about Hulk. Don't ever say it's silly for him to jump and say you want realism added to a green Monster! He is a comic book character, everything he does isn't reaslistic because he doesn't exist. I imagine you watched Peter Pan movie and qriped saying ''That isn't realistic how he flies'' haha. You are supposed to throw goddamn logic out the door when you watch a Superhero movie Clive! Did you walk into the movies and say ''well I believed a green monster existed until he leaped, that was unrealistic and it ruined my movie experience'' lol you have made my friend Travis and I laugh outloud, it's always fun seeing you kind of people whinning on these forums, thanks alot! Have a nice day, come again.

 

[Golgo-13]

You need to just shut up, are completely lost when it comes to HULK?!! What in the Sam Hell do you think Hulk is about? You must have watched to much of the goddamn tv show to even know what Hulk is. He is supposed to leap miles and run really fast! You say that is unrealistic? HAHAHAHA what part of a 15 foot tall Green Monster is realistic? I have seen some posters that made stupid posts before but you have taken the cake! ''HULK LEAPING IS NOT REALISTIC'' HAHAHAHAHA!!! You want more realism added to a green monster haha. The people loved Hulk jumping and running in the movie, get over it! That is everything Hulk is. Go watch the old crap tv show and watch him run around and lift back ends of cars. When in the hell did people laugh when he jumped, what ****ing theater were you at? I watched the movie twice in the theater and people loved when Hulk was kicking ass!! Not one time has any of the people that hated the movie said it was stupid that he jumped, that is how Hulk has been since he was created, jesus! Lets just have him run around about the speed of a regular person and not leap, hell while were at it might as well have him bench 500 pounds because you want realism to a goddamn green monster! Do us a favor and don't post on these boards anymore.


Guy wants realism added to a green monster, hahahahahahahaha!! You don't deserve to watch a Hulk movie because you obviously don't know a damn thing about Hulk. Don't ever say it's silly for him to jump and say you want realism added to a green Monster! He is a comic book character, everything he does isn't reaslistic because he doesn't exist. I imagine you watched Peter Pan movie and qriped saying ''That isn't realistic how he flies'' haha. You are supposed to throw goddamn logic out the door when you watch a Superhero movie Clive! Did you walk into the movies and say ''well I believed a green monster existed until he leaped, that was unrealistic and it ruined my movie experience'' lol you have made my friend Travis and I laugh outloud, it's always fun seeing you kind of people whinning on these forums, thanks alot! Have a nice day, come again.

Come on now dude, you of all ppl shouldn't be debating about realistic and unrelaistic. You say HULK should do unrealistc things on this thread, but want he origin grounded in reality....?

I don't mean to be rude, but i don't think you can tell the difference between your head and your *******. I'm not singling you out but most that post on here stay pretty consistant with their gripes, and beliefs. You appear to be wish-washing back and forth.

Make up your mind. Do you want the believable or the unbelievable movie?

To the general public or just you? Far be it an excess of people *****ing, the consensus so far on this thread seems to be, "Hell yeah, give us more running, jumping, leaping, etc!! We loved it!! It was great!!" And I'm saying hell NO, don't give us more of that because that's exactly what the general public HATED. It was completely unbelievable. For those who were ABLE to summon laughter from within by the time the Hulk is the running and jumping... my profoundest admiration. Besides, you actually agree with me when you say there were too many gimmicks -- yes, the running and jumping included.

I want Hulk to jump great distances, cause that's just HULK but i agree with you about the general public. I heard alot of ppl saying "Hulk can fly?" while watching the movie.

 

[Bannerless Hulk]

Riddick2009, have you hit puberty? You really should wash your mouth out after that vomit of a post. Use something along the lines of hydrochloric acid...

 

[Bannerless Hulk]

I want Hulk to jump great distances, cause that's just HULK but i agree with you about the general public. I heard alot of ppl saying "Hulk can fly?" while watching the movie.

Right. And in theory, I also don't have a problem with the Hulk jumping great distances. He needs some superior form of locomotion and I can see that "jumping" serves as a logical means to that end... I can see where the inventors were coming from. But from a MOVIE standpoint, no way. It just doesn't appeal to neutral observers. Girlfriends and wives going to see the movie are like, "Wha... huh? That was funny" and giggle to themselves. They're only there in the first place because you're there, most of them anyway. It's on the same level as the Shrek comments... big green man who's unbelievable as a real-life phenomenon. Now, that's fine if the movie is ENTIRELY fiction, but it's not. We're dealing with real places and real names insofar as the movie is concerned. People WANT to believe it's real, else they become disappointed when the movie deviates too far from reality. It's this way with Spider-Man and any other comic book movie fanchise. A movie like Spider-Man doesn't break box office records because people are just so enamored with fiction. I think they believe, to some extent, that what they saw COULD have happened.

You want Hulk leaping ridiculous distances? Fine. Moviegoers will be exiting their seats while he's in mid-air. I just think it looks entirely unrealistic on the screen and it's one less thing we need to worry about. He can still be all-powerful without the jumping. As for running... I checked the original Hulk movie site and Wiki earlier today and they don't say ANYTHING about his running ability. Hell, his ability to jump 3 miles is nearly a footnote on the website (source: http://www.thehulk.com/modern_evo/index.html). Wiki says he can jump 1,000 miles, but it's buried in the "Powers and Abilities" section. For two physical characteristics that people are so passionate about, one would think they would be up there with Hulk's strength as prominent features. But since they're not, that's one more reason I think we can do without them. Let Hulk be lumbering... let him take all the s*** they can give him. He'll just show THAT's why he's the Hulk!!

 

[SpandexFan]

I assume those who didn't get the jumping only know Hulk from the TV show. While I don't agree that it should be taken out, it is understandable that you have to deal with the mainstream beliefs. I think Superman suffered from the same thing. The audiences were expecting more of a Chris Reeve version and got a darker, more flaws, remake that they didn't agree with. I heard the same thing with Batman Begins. Some people would never let go of the Michael Keaton version but I think that's one franchise that probably managed to change audience perceptions for the better.

As far as Hulk, if we don't have a huge CGI creature that jumps miles, then there might as well be no movie. If you're going to keep him grounded and more like the Lou Ferigno version, then you might as well make a new TV show instead of a full blown motion picture. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work, but please spend $100 million dollars in more creative ways than a Mr. Universe with green make-up who doesn't jump or run.

 

[Bannerless Hulk]

I assume those who didn't get the jumping only know Hulk from the TV show. While I don't agree that it should be taken out, it is understandable that you have to deal with the mainstream beliefs.

Right. Just like they have to deal with yours.

I think Superman suffered from the same thing. The audiences were expecting more of a Chris Reeve version and got a darker, more flaws, remake that they didn't agree with. I heard the same thing with Batman Begins. Some people would never let go of the Michael Keaton version but I think that's one franchise that probably managed to change audience perceptions for the better.

Superman can be said to be an atrocity in every way that X3 is said to be one, only worse -- it's the whole story that sucks IMO. I read today that the sequel is on the backburner, and I couldn't be more pleased.

My boss is one person who won't let go of the Michael Keaton version. He - not unlike many of us here - is blinded by what he "wants" to believe, I think. He holds that that Batman is and always will be the best comic book movie ever. And you know what I say to that? He's a product of his own culture! He was in his HEYDAY when that movie was big - and I remember it, though I was kid - but there's no way that that's the best movie of its genre. I like to think they progressively get better; to say anything else is to stay stuck in the past.

Likewise, I'm one person whose affinity for Batman was obtained for the FIRST time with Batman Begins. Didn't hate the 90s editions of Batman, but didn't obsess over the Michael Keaton version either. To me, Batman just seemed like a pansy in a cape until Christian Bale came along. For the first time, I actually walked out of a Batman showing saying "Man, Batman is one tough dude." And for good reason -- he overcame his fear of the bats!! All of the others were just Bruce Waynes living in fear who relied on stupid little gadgets and dressed up when they were mad.

As far as Hulk, if we don't have a huge CGI creature that jumps miles, then there might as well be no movie. If you're going to keep him grounded and more like the Lou Ferigno version, then you might as well make a new TV show instead of a full blown motion picture. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work, but please spend $100 million dollars in more creative ways than a Mr. Universe with green make-up who doesn't jump or run.

I just don't see how you get off saying that. You show that you're defeated before the movie has even revealed its first teaser. Not to mention the fact you have no imagination. This gets to the heart of my frustration with some of you Hulk "fans." You act like the comics are all that IS. Well, excuse me for thinking outside of the box. I'm sorry for having an imagination, but I think there is a Hulk out there who can dominate without having to "jump miles." He can still be aggressive and just as impressive. The ability to jump seems to be something purely for children anyway, if you ask me. If jumping is necessary, make them short bursts, rather than bounds that go for miles, for the purposes of the movie. Imagine Abomination not being able to catch Hulk because of the bursts. That, to me, is a far better story than a Hulk who can simply jump out of the tri-state region with two hops. Bring him down to earth, literally and figuratively... just a little.

 

[SpaghettiHULK]

Hulk's leaps are simply fundamental!
They are just like webs for Spider-Man or Bat-Mobile for Batman... Spider-Man without webs isn't Spider-Man, Batman without Bat-Mobile isn't Batman. Hulk that can't leaps... is not The Hulk!

 

[Bannerless Hulk]

Here lies post #29.

 

[Bannerless Hulk]

Hulk's leaps are simply fundamental!
They are just like webs for Spider-Man or Bat-Mobile for Batman... Spider-Man without webs isn't Spider-Man, Batman without Bat-Mobile isn't Batman. Hulk that can't leaps... is not The Hulk!

To the comics!! But this isn't the comics - this is a translation to the big screen! Do you not see the difference? It may be the Hulk to jump incredible distances, but it's just not believable and - I add to that - not necessary!

And the analogy is a bad one. We can identify with Spiderman spinning webs that logically get him from Point A to Point B. We see spiders everyday; we see the strength of their webs with our own eyes. We CAN'T identify with a man OR monster who can jump for miles! And the Batmobile is just a toy!! EVERYONE drives something.

No, a better analogy is...

To jump, for the Hulk, is to walk/crawl or spin webs, for Spiderman, and to travel by vehicle for Batman. Do you follow? It's their form of locomotion and it isn't the thing they show off the most -- their most dominant feature! For Hulk, it's his strength; for Spiderman, it's his Spidey sense; and for Batman, it's his intuition. You take away their means of travel and what do you have? Everything!! Now, I can see it would be a problem if you took away almost anything else - Hulk's strength or his size or even his color - but some of you are proving yourselves to be pathetic!!

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Hulk's leaps are simply fundamental!
They are just like webs for Spider-Man or Bat-Mobile for Batman... Spider-Man without webs isn't Spider-Man, Batman without Bat-Mobile isn't Batman. Hulk that can't leaps... is not The Hulk!

ummm your comparison is wrong sir... spidey is nothin without his webs... true but batman is fine without a batmobile.. because its not what makes him unique its his suit and crime fighting, without webs spidey is nothing more then an agile strong guy who can stick to walls... might as well call him the fly.

hulk on the other hand is the farthest stretch of this.. when people think hulk... you simply only need 3 things to the formula... GREEN/STRONG/ANGRY without those 3 elements, hes not the hulk... super jumping is just a minor thing... it doesnt define him

 

[Riddick2009]

Riddick2009, have you hit puberty? You really should wash your mouth out after that vomit of a post. Use something along the lines of hydrochloric acid...

Just people like you make that come out in a person. Point was you think it's alright to believe that a 15 foot tall green monster exists but you don't believe he could leap miles, lol. Someone also made another post that the audience laughed at the Hulk because he leaped and said they didn't know he could fly, well goes to show you how much don't know Hulk at all doesn't it? Everyone is used to seeing the lame tv show where a green body builder picked up the ass end of cars and growled alot. I know what is realistic and what isn't but to say that it isn't realistic for a 15 foot tall green Monster to leap is really stupid because you don't know what one is capable of considering he doesn't exist. Maybe Hydrochloric acid melted away your brain because you obvious have a warped sense of reality friend.

 

[Riddick2009]

Come on now dude, you of all ppl shouldn't be debating about realistic and unrelaistic. You say HULK should do unrealistc things on this thread, but want he origin grounded in reality....?

I don't mean to be rude, but i don't think you can tell the difference between your head and your *******. I'm not singling you out but most that post on here stay pretty consistant with their gripes, and beliefs. You appear to be wish-washing back and forth.

Make up your mind. Do you want the believable or the unbelievable movie?



I want Hulk to jump great distances, cause that's just HULK but i agree with you about the general public. I heard alot of ppl saying "Hulk can fly?" while watching the movie.

You missed my point completely, not suprising! My point was this guy is saying it's unrealistic for a Green Monster to leap into the air miles at a time! It's like he thinks it's realistic for that monster to exist but no to leap? I mean that is what Hulk has been in every single incarnation that has been in the comics and cartoons, not the tv show because of the budget and effects at the time. Some realism in a Super Hero film is good but when a person makes a statment that it isn't possible for a Green Monster to leap is upsurd! We talked about a Gamma Bomb going off and turning Bruce into Hulk, that is unrealistic because guess what, Gamma Bombs or Nuclear Bombs kill you, nothing else. Those exist so we know what they do. A Green Monster called Hulk doesn't exist, so we can't say what we can do or what is realistic for him. The guy thinks it's realistic to for Hulk to throw tanks or pick up cars but saying him leaping is stupid, well he has a warped sense of reality.



Hell I guess Hulk can just hitch a ride now or take the bus, right? I mean since it's so unrealistic for him to leap. I mean it's so realistic for him to pick up Tanks and people and sling them but him leaping is way out of the question huh? Your posts make about as much sense as a screen door on a Submarine. Your the type of person that would say '' screen door on a Battleship'' huh Biff? I mean how in the hell can you think it's alright for him to pick up tanks, how in the hell is that possible? How is it possible for that but not for him to leap, I mean if he has the goddamn strength to lift and throw it that far I would imagine he has the strengh in his legs to jump his body somewhere, wouldn't that be logical. I mean legs are stronger then arms, why is it realistic for him to have that much strength but not be able to jump? Why in the hell has he done if for over 45 years in the comics? Why does everyone I know think it's awesome when he jumps. Do you live in the Twilight Zone? Please Bannerless Hulk, please make me understand what you think is real and what isn't real because you have all of us confused!​

 

[Golgo-13]

Ok first of all where in the hell did you learn to spell? Second of all you missed my point completely, not suprising! My point was this guy is saying it's unrealistic for a Green Monster to leap into the air miles at a time! It's like he thinks it's realistic for that monster to exist but no to leap? I mean that is what Hulk has been in every single incarnation that has been in the comics and cartoons, not the tv show because of the budget and effects at the time. Some realism in a Super Hero film is good but when a person makes a statment that it isn't possible for a Green Monster to leap is upsurd! We talked about a Gamma Bomb going off and turning Bruce into Hulk, that is unrealistic because guess what, Gamma Bombs or Nuclear Bombs kill you, nothing else. Those exist so we know what they do. A Green Monster called Hulk doesn't exist, so we can't say what we can do or what is realistic for him. For that guy to say it's ok for him to throw tanks for grow big but to say leaping isn't realistic is freaking insane and illogical!

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OK i mispelled a word, big deal.

My point is your in no position to be talking about what's realistic or not. Nano-technology exists but you were fine with it creating a fictional character like the HULK...who is the dictionary definition of unrealistic.

 

[Riddick2009]

I tried to edit my post when I said where did you learn to spell, that was uncalled for and me being a smart ass, sorry. I just thought the guy was being sort of silly to say Hulk can do this but no this cause it's not realistic, know what I mean? I mean if Hulk doesn't leap or run fast imagine how silly and boring the movie would be. What is great about Hulk is he can leap from the desert to the City in a short amount of time and it changes the scenary quickly instead of him running like a regular person like the tv show. Let me just say nothing about the Hulk is realistic, not his origin in the first movie or his original origin, how about that. I myself just liked the first movies origin because of the nanites and the Legacy of his father and to me it was more realistic and made more science fact then the original origin, in my opinion. I just don't understand someone's logic in saying Hulk shouldn't leap because it's not realistic for him to leap and then the person accept him throwing Tanks and turning green as realistic, makes no sense to me.